List Mgmt. 2024 AFLW trade and draft

[Kbroome]

I would happily move on Lochland, Hillier, Sheppard, Sargent Wilson, Smith, Whelan, Vale, Szigeti and maybe Beruldsen. It will be interesting to see who gets delisted.

I think the only one i would keep out of that list is Sargent Wilson and thats because she might legitmately be the only full time winger on the list.

 

[Callipygian]

We already knew Woodward was retiring (or has already retired) but now news that Brooke Lochland is hanging up the boots too: https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1250920/whos-hanging-up-the-boots-your-aflw-clubs-retiring-players.

I wonder if she'll stay involved in our Academy? I hope so but I fear she is more likely to return to Victoria.

 

[Kbroome]

We already knew Woodward was retiring (or has already retired) but now news that Brooke Lochland is hanging up the boots too: https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1250920/whos-hanging-up-the-boots-your-aflw-clubs-retiring-players.

I wonder if she'll stay involved in our Academy? I hope so but I fear she is more likely to return to Victoria.

Seems like the right type of person to become the Academy coach tbh. Game has sadly gone past her in the last 12 months but has been a great player for the club across the early years

 

[Callipygian]

Gowans dropped some more hints in his post-match presser:

* sounds like we will take our first pick at the draft and expect to get an excellent player

* we will be looking to trade in players

* from this, I infer our 2nd and 3rd rounders are on the table to trade

* we want tall players - back and forward.


All of that is music to my ears.


If we are able to trade in two good talls, then get Rasheed/O'Hehir and Juneja in the draft, that will be an excellent off-season and will clearly improve our list. May mean we only cut 6 players (4 to make room for the new, and 2 because we have to downsize our list to 30 players).

I would happily move on Lochland, Hillier, Sheppard, Sargent Wilson, Smith, Whelan, Vale, Szigeti and maybe Beruldsen. It will be interesting to see who gets delisted.

Wow! That's even deeper than I would cut. When you add Woodward, that's 10 players. I think we'll cut 6-8 (assuming we have to cut our list back from 32 to 30 players which is what I'm thinking). I agree with your identification of the bottom end of our list.

Smith has been inconsistent but is one of our relatively few talls. Especially after yesterday, she survives the cull for mine. I'd like to see her get a bit more mongrel but she is a strong mark and an accurate kick. Doesn't have much of a ground game and doesn't tackle enough though.

Beruldsen has some weapons and is worth persisting with a little longer IMO.

After that I guess it's how deep the club is prepared to cut and my feeling is that they won't be so ruthless as to cut them all. They want some more mature, seasoned players to balance out the list demographic. A player like Szigeti offers leadership, and Whelan has maturity and experience. I'm not close enough to be able to discern which are more worthy of being spared - there are so many variable to factor in.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Gowans dropped some more hints in his post-match presser:

* sounds like we will take our first pick at the draft and expect to get an excellent player

* we will be looking to trade in players

* from this, I infer our 2nd and 3rd rounders are on the table to trade

* we want tall players - back and forward.


All of that is music to my ears.


If we are able to trade in two good talls, then get Rasheed/O'Hehir and Juneja in the draft, that will be an excellent off-season and will clearly improve our list. May mean we only cut 6 players (4 to make room for the new, and 2 because we have to downsize our list to 30 players).



Wow! That's even deeper than I would cut. When you add Woodward, that's 10 players. I think we'll cut 6-8 (assuming we have to cut our list back from 32 to 30 players which is what I'm thinking). I agree with your identification of the bottom end of our list.

Smith has been inconsistent but is one of our relatively few talls. Especially after yesterday, she survives the cull for mine. I'd like to see her get a bit more mongrel but she is a strong mark and an accurate kick. Doesn't have much of a ground game and doesn't tackle enough though.

Beruldsen has some weapons and is worth persisting with a little longer IMO.

After that I guess it's how deep the club is prepared to cut and my feeling is that they won't be so ruthless as to cut them all. They want some more mature, seasoned players to balance out the list demographic. A player like Szigeti offers leadership, and Whelan has maturity and experience. I'm not close enough to be able to discern which are more worthy of being spared - there are so many variable to factor in.

I think Mahoney and Gowans have been very good at creating a well-bonded team, as has the club and enthusiastic fans, so I very much trust them on who to keep and who not.
I can't imagine that we would cut any deeper than we need to. Smith still has a lot of potential, especially given our lack of quality talls. Make her train with Kennedy, bring out that mongrel. Pretty sure Hillier's contract will be for more than one year. And finally we need a sprinkling of NSW players like Ruby S-W and Alice Mitchell to keep the faith. Ruby also was far from our worst yesterday.
There may be a player or two who wants to be traded "back home" that creates more space.

 

[liz]

I think Mahoney and Gowans have been very good at creating a well-bonded team, as has the club and enthusiastic fans, so I very much trust them on who to keep and who not.
I can't imagine that we would cut any deeper than we need to. Smith still has a lot of potential, especially given our lack of quality talls. Make her train with Kennedy, bring out that mongrel. Pretty sure Hillier's contract will be for more than one year. And finally we need a sprinkling of NSW players like Ruby S-W and Alice Mitchell to keep the faith. Ruby also was far from our worst yesterday.
There may be a player or two who wants to be traded "back home" that creates more space.

Watching yesterday’s game makes it (sentimentally) harder to cut some players because they showed what they’re capable of. Though I guess I’m mostly thinking of Ruby. The idea of cutting Beruldsen never made sense to me. She does make dumb mistakes at time but that’s because she’s trying to take the game on. She has genuine pace and is still learning the game.

I guess the halo of yesterday doesn’t extend to any of Whelan, Sheppard, Szigeti, Steane or Vale, since none of them played. Though I think Gowans rates Steane, and I think she’s a tad better than the rest on that list.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Watching yesterday’s game makes it (sentimentally) harder to cut some players because they showed what they’re capable of. Though I guess I’m mostly thinking of Ruby. The idea of cutting Beruldsen never made sense to me. She does make dumb mistakes at time but that’s because she’s trying to take the game on. She has genuine pace and is still learning the game.

I guess the halo of yesterday doesn’t extend to any of Whelan, Sheppard, Szigeti, Steane or Vale, since none of them played. Though I think Gowans rates Steane, and I think she’s a tad better than the rest on that list.

As I understand we need to reduce the list by two and appear to be aiming to bring in 4 then with the two retirements we will need to delist 4. So it sounds as if the 4 you mention (minus Steane) would be very likely candidates.
Perhaps someone might want to leave?

 

[Ticky009]

As I understand we need to reduce the list by two and appear to be aiming to bring in 4 then with the two retirements we will need to delist 4. So it sounds as if the 4 you mention (minus Steane) would be very likely candidates.
Perhaps someone might want to leave?

That's a good call out - we don't yet know if anyone on the list has put in a trade request.

 

[Ticky009]

Swans 'open for business' during Trade Period, says Gowans

The Swans are set to be busy during the AFLW Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

 

[Kbroome]

Swans 'open for business' during Trade Period, says Gowans

The Swans are set to be busy during the AFLW Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

Rowbottom continues to be courted by Sydney – where her brother James is a star player – and is yet to officially re-sign at Gold Coast, though there is also an increasing hope she pens a fresh deal to remain in Queensland.

The Swans are again likely to be aggressive in the upcoming AFLW Trade Period and are viewed as the frontrunners to secure Geelong midfielder Darcy Maloney, though Adelaide and West Coast are also among the clubs in the hunt.

Sydney is also keen on luring the competition’s inaugural No.1 pick Nicola Barr from crosstown rivals Greater Western Sydney, with North Melbourne also in the mix to sign the midfielder after a discussion with the Giants to explore her options.

 

[joeykanga]

Rowbottom continues to be courted by Sydney – where her brother James is a star player – and is yet to officially re-sign at Gold Coast, though there is also an increasing hope she pens a fresh deal to remain in Queensland.

The Swans are again likely to be aggressive in the upcoming AFLW Trade Period and are viewed as the frontrunners to secure Geelong midfielder Darcy Maloney, though Adelaide and West Coast are also among the clubs in the hunt.

Sydney is also keen on luring the competition’s inaugural No.1 pick Nicola Barr from crosstown rivals Greater Western Sydney, with North Melbourne also in the mix to sign the midfielder after a discussion with the Giants to explore her options.

Further down in that article it also mentions Carlton being really interested in Ella Heads.
That cannot happen under any circumstance

 

[Kbroome]

Further down in that article it also mentions Carlton being really interested in Ella Heads.
That cannot happen under any circumstance

Would be weird for them to try and sign a Sydney Western Suburbs player unless they gave her a huge deal which seems a little unrealistic.

 

[Callipygian]

Would be weird for them to try and sign a Sydney Western Suburbs player unless they gave her a huge deal which seems a little unrealistic.

Might be like with the blokes: they register their interest and force us to pay more to retain her.

 

[Ticky009]

Happy we're putting ourselves out there in the upcoming trade & draft period. I think this season has shown we still have a long way to go to catch up to the more established teams.

To be honest I think that homegrown talent is more important in AFLW than the mens game due to the pay disparity.

 

[joeykanga]

Happy we're putting ourselves out there in the upcoming trade & draft period. I think this season has shown we still have a long way to go to catch up to the more established teams.

To be honest I think that homegrown talent is more important in AFLW than the mens game due to the pay disparity.

Another couple of Sophia Hurley's and I'd be happy

 

[Kbroome]

Happy we're putting ourselves out there in the upcoming trade & draft period. I think this season has shown we still have a long way to go to catch up to the more established teams.

To be honest I think that homegrown talent is more important in AFLW than the mens game due to the pay disparity.

Yep this year showed that we don't have a good 16-24 bracket compared to other teams. Yes we didn't have our top liners for most of the year but we relied so heavily on like 4 players (Tarrant, Hurley, Kennedy and Priv)

 

[Callipygian]

I think NSW has the shallowest talent pool currently. How long until we turn that around? We have the biggest population. Queensland has done a great job in developing into a footy State, especially with women and girls, but increasingly with the men as well. The Gold Coast Academy deserves a prize. Maybe we should try to poach somebody?

 

[Kiama Chris]

I think NSW has the shallowest talent pool currently. How long until we turn that around? We have the biggest population. Queensland has done a great job in developing into a footy State, especially with women and girls, but increasingly with the men as well. The Gold Coast Academy deserves a prize. Maybe we should try to poach somebody?

Didn't Hillier and Davies come from Qld?

 

[Callipygian]

Didn't Hillier and Davies come from Qld?

Yep. Davies from the Gold Coast Academy and Hillier from the Lions Academy.

If you're referring to my poaching comment, I was actually more referring to Academy staff and coaches. But I'm all for getting their players too if they're any good!

 

[Ticky009]

QLD Academies killing it atm in both male & female

 

[Kiama Chris]

QLD Academies killing it atm in both male & female

Interesting how they outsource some of the development eg the Ashcroft boys in school in Melbourne.

 

[sahi11]

Interesting how they outsource some of the development eg the Ashcroft boys in school in Melbourne.

Ashcrofts are farther sons, not academy

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[Kbroome]

Ashcrofts are farther sons, not academy

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Sam Marshall was Bris academy and played for Sandy

 

[Kiama Chris]

Ashcrofts are farther sons, not academy

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Yep, still outsourced.