List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

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Yes I know good ones are golden & Watson is a jet, but small fwds also a little bit icing.

Bit nervous going top 20 on one, absent genuine midfield capacity/ outlook
we can get rioli back when we're in our window
 

Draft state of play: How Richmond’s historic draft hand will emulate GWS success​

The Tigers will be like a kid in a candy shop.​

October 20, 2024

Richmond's historic draft hand is set to have vast ramifications on next month's crop of stars, holding eight selections in the first 25.

The Tigers hold the prized Pick 1, along with 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24, rivalling the amount of selections Gold Coast and GWS acquired heading into their inaugural seasons.
In a draft crop that is reportedly as deep as it is talented, led by the likes of Jagga Smith, Josh Smilie and Finn O'Sullivan, Richmond will be like a kid in a candy shop.

SEE MORE: AFL Draft Order 2024

So what will November 20 and 21 look like for the Punt Road club on draft night?
List managers are still at work, with clubs able to pick swaps up until the end of October, when the AFL opens its delisted free agency window (Nov 1-8).

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates

Oct 4 to Oct 11: Free agency window (complete)
Oct 7 to Oct 16: Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period (complete)
Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

Clubs will then resume its pick swapping capabilities on draft night, albeit a rarity, but still available to list managers.
As for Richmond, the 2024 draft could be the beginning of the dynasty, with the Victorian powerhouse looking to return to the top of the mountain.

Tigers fans are happy to wait, given the successful run between 2017 and 2020, securing three premierships after 37 years of turmoil.
But the 'bounce' from 18th to finals contention could be quicker than most expected, pending they nail next month's draft selections.

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MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - SEPTEMBER 28: Tom Lynch of the Tigers celebrates a goal during the 2019 Toyota AFL Grand Final match between the Richmond Tigers and the GWS Giants at the Melbourne Cricket Ground on September 28, 2019 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

As it stands, the Punt Road club holds eight picks but won't be taking those into the dream-making evening for those youngsters.

Richmond is targeting North Melbourne's prized Pick 2 in exchange for two first-round selections, which would likely be Picks 6 and 11.
Also, the club may look at getting into next year's draft, with a host of rivals hoping to enter the first round of the 2024 crop.

The Tigers currently have 38 players (eight rookies and two Category B rookies) on the books, meaning they have six spare list spots they can fill at the draft or through delisted free agency and pre-season supplemental periods.
Clubs are also expected to have between 36 and 38 players on their primary list, with some rookies potentially earning promotions, like Seth Campbell and Tylar Young.

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Seth Campbell during Richmond's open training on December 20, 2022 (Photo by Cameron Grimes/Zero Digital Sports)

Richmond has yet to announce any club delistings, with list lodgements set for October 31st.
So what will Adem Yze and his football department do?

The Tigers could take six high-quality youngsters, selecting an array of midfielders and key position players.
Midfielders Smith and O'Sullivan (who is cousins with Carlton's Sam Walsh) played for Richmond's VFL side throughout the year, as did Harvey Langford, who is a goal-kicking midfielder.

Sam Lalor and Smilie are expected to be scooped up early in the draft, with Richmond no doubt considering a play for the bullocking rovers.

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PERTH, AUSTRALIA - JUNE 23: Jagga Smith of Victoria Metro in action during the Marsh AFL National Championships match between U18 Boys Western Australia and Victoria Metro at Optus Stadium on June 23, 2024 in Perth, Australia. (Photo by Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images)

Harry Armstrong and Luke Trainor feature at either end of the field and are the best key position talents in the draft, tipped to go within the top 15 picks.

Jobe Shanahan solidified his first-round chances with dominant performances in Essendon's VFL side, while Jack Whitlock and Cooper Hynes were impressive for Victoria Country in the National Championships.
It's become clear that there's no shortage of talent.

Yze has a relatively strong midfield, with former GWS pair Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper perfect leaders for a young group, not to mention the direction from Dion Prestia.
Defensively, the Tigers were able to retain Nathan Broad as well as Jayden Short and Nick Vlastuin, who knows what it takes to win a premiership.
Up forward, Tom Lynch has consistently denied a move to a third AFL club and is keen to repay the yellow and black for the two flags he secured, guiding the next wave of stars.


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PERTH, AUSTRALIA - JUNE 13: Nathan Broad of the Tigers handpasses the ball during the 2021 AFL Round 13 match between the West Coast Eagles and the Richmond Tigers at Optus Stadium on June 13, 2021 in Perth, Australia. (Photo by Daniel Carson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

In 2011, the Giants selected 11 of the first 14 players in the National Draft, whilst the year before gained stars Jeremy Cameron, Adam Treloar and Dylan Shiel as underage selections.
Lachie Whitfield, Josh Kelly and Harry Himmelberg followed suit in the years to come, which formulated the core that led the AFL's newest club to the finals within five years of its inception.
Since 2016, GWS has made seven out of nine finals series, with all reaching at least the semi-final, with a grand final appearance in 2019, ironically against Richmond.

The Giants, through a mix of experienced campaigners and a strong core that remained together, quickly turned into a powerhouse that has Gold Coast standing idly by with envy.

And it will no doubt be a blueprint for the new Tasmanian team when they join the league in 2028.

As GWS did, Richmond will need to hit the mark with its draft selections.
But with the lure of a big, Victorian club, playing at the MCG more often than not and holding the keys to dad's new Porsche, who wouldn't want to be at the Tigers?
Safe to say it's an enticing prospect.

6 and 11 for 2 ?

g a g f
 

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I’ve been a big fan all year and 100% his year has been underwhelming but I’m projecting for the player he’ll be over the next 15 years and will not give a shit about his 2024.
The standouts for mine is his versatility & impact, he tends to make good things happen and the vfl game he played for us was a good example. 12 possessions but 6 score involvements. Naturally like to see him get a bit more of it than that but reckon he’s got the traits to translate in to an elite AFL player who we will rue watching in another jumper if we pass on him.
Someone wanted the video that shows FOS’s elite skills. This is from his underage year, injuries have limited him this year, but you don’t lose that talent.

 

Draft state of play: How Richmond’s historic draft hand will emulate GWS success​

The Tigers will be like a kid in a candy shop.​

October 20, 2024

Richmond's historic draft hand is set to have vast ramifications on next month's crop of stars, holding eight selections in the first 25.

The Tigers hold the prized Pick 1, along with 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24, rivalling the amount of selections Gold Coast and GWS acquired heading into their inaugural seasons.
In a draft crop that is reportedly as deep as it is talented, led by the likes of Jagga Smith, Josh Smilie and Finn O'Sullivan, Richmond will be like a kid in a candy shop.

SEE MORE: AFL Draft Order 2024

So what will November 20 and 21 look like for the Punt Road club on draft night?
List managers are still at work, with clubs able to pick swaps up until the end of October, when the AFL opens its delisted free agency window (Nov 1-8).

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates

Oct 4 to Oct 11: Free agency window (complete)
Oct 7 to Oct 16: Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period (complete)
Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

Clubs will then resume its pick swapping capabilities on draft night, albeit a rarity, but still available to list managers.
As for Richmond, the 2024 draft could be the beginning of the dynasty, with the Victorian powerhouse looking to return to the top of the mountain.

Tigers fans are happy to wait, given the successful run between 2017 and 2020, securing three premierships after 37 years of turmoil.
But the 'bounce' from 18th to finals contention could be quicker than most expected, pending they nail next month's draft selections.

GettyImages-1171694873.jpg.webp
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - SEPTEMBER 28: Tom Lynch of the Tigers celebrates a goal during the 2019 Toyota AFL Grand Final match between the Richmond Tigers and the GWS Giants at the Melbourne Cricket Ground on September 28, 2019 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

As it stands, the Punt Road club holds eight picks but won't be taking those into the dream-making evening for those youngsters.

Richmond is targeting North Melbourne's prized Pick 2 in exchange for two first-round selections, which would likely be Picks 6 and 11.
Also, the club may look at getting into next year's draft, with a host of rivals hoping to enter the first round of the 2024 crop.

The Tigers currently have 38 players (eight rookies and two Category B rookies) on the books, meaning they have six spare list spots they can fill at the draft or through delisted free agency and pre-season supplemental periods.
Clubs are also expected to have between 36 and 38 players on their primary list, with some rookies potentially earning promotions, like Seth Campbell and Tylar Young.

RICHTRAIN245.jpg.webp
Seth Campbell during Richmond's open training on December 20, 2022 (Photo by Cameron Grimes/Zero Digital Sports)

Richmond has yet to announce any club delistings, with list lodgements set for October 31st.
So what will Adem Yze and his football department do?

The Tigers could take six high-quality youngsters, selecting an array of midfielders and key position players.
Midfielders Smith and O'Sullivan (who is cousins with Carlton's Sam Walsh) played for Richmond's VFL side throughout the year, as did Harvey Langford, who is a goal-kicking midfielder.

Sam Lalor and Smilie are expected to be scooped up early in the draft, with Richmond no doubt considering a play for the bullocking rovers.

GettyImages-2158804795-scaled.jpg.webp
PERTH, AUSTRALIA - JUNE 23: Jagga Smith of Victoria Metro in action during the Marsh AFL National Championships match between U18 Boys Western Australia and Victoria Metro at Optus Stadium on June 23, 2024 in Perth, Australia. (Photo by Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images)

Harry Armstrong and Luke Trainor feature at either end of the field and are the best key position talents in the draft, tipped to go within the top 15 picks.

Jobe Shanahan solidified his first-round chances with dominant performances in Essendon's VFL side, while Jack Whitlock and Cooper Hynes were impressive for Victoria Country in the National Championships.
It's become clear that there's no shortage of talent.

Yze has a relatively strong midfield, with former GWS pair Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper perfect leaders for a young group, not to mention the direction from Dion Prestia.
Defensively, the Tigers were able to retain Nathan Broad as well as Jayden Short and Nick Vlastuin, who knows what it takes to win a premiership.
Up forward, Tom Lynch has consistently denied a move to a third AFL club and is keen to repay the yellow and black for the two flags he secured, guiding the next wave of stars.


GettyImages-1233424771-scaled.jpg.webp
PERTH, AUSTRALIA - JUNE 13: Nathan Broad of the Tigers handpasses the ball during the 2021 AFL Round 13 match between the West Coast Eagles and the Richmond Tigers at Optus Stadium on June 13, 2021 in Perth, Australia. (Photo by Daniel Carson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

In 2011, the Giants selected 11 of the first 14 players in the National Draft, whilst the year before gained stars Jeremy Cameron, Adam Treloar and Dylan Shiel as underage selections.
Lachie Whitfield, Josh Kelly and Harry Himmelberg followed suit in the years to come, which formulated the core that led the AFL's newest club to the finals within five years of its inception.
Since 2016, GWS has made seven out of nine finals series, with all reaching at least the semi-final, with a grand final appearance in 2019, ironically against Richmond.

The Giants, through a mix of experienced campaigners and a strong core that remained together, quickly turned into a powerhouse that has Gold Coast standing idly by with envy.

And it will no doubt be a blueprint for the new Tasmanian team when they join the league in 2028.

As GWS did, Richmond will need to hit the mark with its draft selections.
But with the lure of a big, Victorian club, playing at the MCG more often than not and holding the keys to dad's new Porsche, who wouldn't want to be at the Tigers?
Safe to say it's an enticing prospect.

Crapped my pants

Thought this was from twomey

Thank god it’s zero hanger they have as much credibility as bigfooty

6+11 for 2, yuck
 
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Is it but? I admit small forwards putting pressure on is huge now but top 5 this year
Hogan 77 goals
Cameron 64 goals
Daniher 58 goals
Curnow 57 goals
Ben king 55 goals
true but gone arehe days of multiple tall forwards u only need 1
 
Crwpped my pants

Thought this was from twomey

Thank god it’s zero hanger they have much credibility as bigfooty

6+11 for 2, yuck

It was a good read but the only part you, I and others surely don't agree with is this part.
Richmond is targeting North Melbourne's prized Pick 2 in exchange for two first-round selections, which would likely be Picks 6 and 11.

There is zero chance we are giving North pick 11. If the club decides to trade for pick 2 (I hope they don't now, happy to keep all our picks). It'll be 6 & 20 or 6 & 23
 

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I'm no doubt going to cop it and possibly even the :tearsofjoy: for this, but I don't believe that they are the clear best 2 in the draft. I also don't believe that the 2 of them together are best fit for us. I like the thought of taking either FOS or Lalor and then either Draper or Smith so that we get a couple of players who compliment each other rather than 2 of the same.
its your opinion and its not right or wrong we all agree and disagree doesnt really mattter in the end
 
I hope u are right,I'm a bit worried about the social club poster who turned out 100% accurate, he's said, it's 10,11 for pick 2,or would we prefer pick 6,20.
If it's pick 10,11.
Then we could expect
1 Lalor
2 Fos
3 Armstrong or Langford or Smillie
It's not that bad when you think of it before the trade.

Would you prefer;

Bolton for pick 2?
Bolton for pick 10&11?
 


Can someone post this article.

THE ‘BORN LEADER’ LEANING ON ADVICE FROM CRIPPS

Big-bodied midfielder Josh Smillie has revealed he leant on advice from a two-time Brownlow Medal winner this year as he battled “some challenges” after entering the season as a highly-touted No. 1 draft pick contender.

Smillie met with Carlton star Patrick Cripps earlier in the year and made notes from the conversation, which he continually went back and reflected on.

A 195cm onballer, the 18-year-old has drawn comparisons to Cripps and Greater Western Sydney midfielder Tom Green, two players who he watches closely.

“I’d want to be half the player Patrick Cripps is now,” Smillie said.

“He’s the best player in the game at the moment. I really look up to those two (Cripps and Green) just because they’re big-bodied midfielders and I watch all the work that they do and try and implement it in my game.”

Smillie’s form was a little up and down at times this year, not helped by some minor injuries and illness.

He was required to spend significant time outside of the midfield during the under-18 national championships with Vic Metro, including roles in attack and defence.

“I’m very versatile so I can play any position and I grew up playing any position,” Smillie said.

“I can go forward or play across half back, but the midfield is my primarily position.

“The year’s done and you reflect on your year. You take out some negatives but you also want to look at the positives. If you said last year I’d be in the position I am now, I’d be pretty proud of this year so far.”

Smillie captained the Eastern Ranges in the Coates Talent League this year as well as serving as skipper of the AFL Academy team in two exhibition matches earlier this season.

Alongside his power and ball-winning abilities, leadership is another key trait that he prides himself on.

“I was raised from my parents being a real leader and a careful person to others,” Smillie said.

“Leadership is something I take pretty seriously. I’m a very caring person that likes to put others before me and see them succeed. It’s just something I’ve grown up with and it just comes natural.”

RISING WA PROSPECT’S CARLTON CONNECTION

Hardworking West Australian half-forward Hamish Davis grew up a Collingwood fan, idolising Scott Pendlebury and Dane Swan.

However, he has a small connection to Carlton.

Davis’ uncle, Damien Hampson, was selected by the Blues at No. 7 in the 1990 national draft.

Hampson did not play a senior game in two years with Carlton, but went on to make six AFL appearances for West Coast after being offloaded to the Eagles at the end of 1992.

Davis’ grandfather, the late Reg Hampson, did not play AFL but was a star rover for Subiaco in the WAFL, playing 224 matches for the club.

Davis has been a draft riser this year on the back of an eye-catching second half of the season, during which he has drawn comparisons to dual Brownlow Medal winner Nat Fyfe.

The 190cm forward – who can also rotate in the midfield – racked up 21 disposals, seven score involvements and kicked four goals in Claremont’s elimination final win over East Fremantle in the WAFL.

After the Tigers were eliminated from the premiership race the following week, he went back to the club’s under-18 side and gathered 30 disposals, eight clearances and 12 score involvements to win the best-on-ground medal in a Grand Final triumph.
 

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