List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

[Mr Magic]

you think lalor is better than having both Armstrong and Langford?

So if jagga slides

We would have Jagga(M), Langford(HF), Armstrong (FF) Trav (HB) and Trainor (FB)

that would be the spine done in one draft... Its interesting you would have to admit but the internet is about extremes its either F Yess or F Nooo

Lalor is better than Armstrong and Langford(individually) no doubt, I think Armstrong and Langford is a different more complex question

but if you had nine picks in the one draft of reasonable quality, imagine what you could do and how attractive it would be for the likes of Harley Reid or others.


For example, I would get Smillie, Bo Allan, Trainor, Jagga maybe if he gets there, Hynes, and a heap of others and others will want to come and play for us one would think. One could really see how these players go and experiment with certain roles other club would not be at a stage to do so where we have versatility with the likes of Balta and others. We could come up with a different way of playing, unconventional that creates a edge for us

full experimental and think of Dyson Sharp or others next year to. You could really figure out th best role for Smillie and others that works for the best role for Balta and others

Remember we can trade for Lalor later potentially or others FA down the track, including Langford and possibly Reid

Then again Adelaide may not select Draper, who knows

 

[Calcium Man]

you reckon melbourne won't pick Armstrong given they want to win now and it takes 3 years to build a key FF?

No I reckon they won’t pick Armstrong because they’ve gone KPF in 2 of last 3 drafts.

Their midfield however is old, injured and a mess.

Brayshaw - retired
Viney - 31
Petracca - hates the club and coming off an injury akin to someone in a car crash
Oliver - is just a really messy situation, his off field stuff from his side is dodgy and the club higher ups shopping him around at afl functions despite list management not being in their job description screams of problems

Rivers - gun

That’s it. The rest are pinch hitters, small forwards, wingers or HBF.

Go read their draft thread, they’re desperate for mids and none seem to want Armstrong.

They’re not risking missing the plug and play certainly of Jagga/Langford for 12 years at 5 for the prospect of a very raw Tauru or another tall forward.

 

[Tigerbob]

One of my mates who has followed under 18s really closely and an opinion I value does not rate the Whitlock twins at all. Reckons come senior level they will be exposed.

I agree regarding Matt.

Jack for me has high end AFL traits and in an AFL system I think these certain traits will become enhanced and he will be a very nice player.

 

[G String]

would we take picks 5 and 9 from Melbourne if they offered it to us for pick 1?

Same value (almost) as pick 2 for 6 and 11...

That really appeals to me. We still get one of the top 6 mids who are all different but hard to separate in terms of the value they offer. Then we get an extra quality top 10 player. So we'd be essentially trading a Jagga for a Langford/Reid or similar combo.

I cant see Melbourne doing that though for exactly the same reasons.

 

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My Personal Opinion Round 1 (No trades)

1. Jagga Smith - proven performer at every level this year, including a strong 3 game run at VFL level against mature bodies where he averaged 27 disposals 6 clearances 14 ground ball gets 5 score involvements & 2 tackles. An attacking midfielder who would compliment the likes of Taranto & Hopper in the midfield.

2. Levi Ashcroft - North makes the first bid and force the Lions to pay fair value for Ashcroft. Amazing that the reigning premiers get to add a kid this talented.

3. Finn O'Sullivan - For all the noise about North liking Tauru they take O'Sullivan and continue to add talent to their young midfield brigade of Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, Phillips & Powell. This pick also means North could make a similar move to what some were suggesting we do with Balta and allow LDU to depart via free agency next year and bring in a R1 compo pick to allow them to target KPPs next year.

4. Sid Draper - Carlton misses out on getting O'Sullivan but pick up Draper who adds a point of difference to their midfield mix. Draper would give Carlton that dynamic player who can breakaway from the contest and drive the ball forward quickly to give McKay and Curnow the chance to compete 1-1 more often.

5. Sam Lalor - Adelaide get the kid that many suggest we're linked with at pick 1 in what could be the steal of the draft if he develops as some hope. Lalor partnering up with Rankine would give the Crows an exciting partnership that would rotate mid/forward as they see fit.

6. Murphy Reid - Melbourne add some outside class to their strong contested midfield unit in Reid who has been compared to Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

36

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

by many draft watchers. He would compliment their midfield very nicely.

7. Josh Smillie - an early season favourite for pick 1, Smillie struggled a bit in the 2nd half of the season with talk he was battling a bit of a niggle. He has been described as a Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

/Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

type of midfielder and we could certainly do with a big brute midfielder moving forward.

8. Leo Lombard - Saints bid on Lombard and make the Suns pay up. Lombard will play from R1 next year and will have an impact for the Suns through the middle.

9. Issac Kako - The Saints now bid on Kako and force the Bombers to cough up for their NGA kid. Kako will become a fan favourite at Essendon as he gives them a real spark inside F50.

10. Alix Tauru - the Saints lost Battle to Free Agency so take a kid that can slot into that spot in time. Tauru has come with a rush in the 2nd half of the season to climb into R1 calculations and the Saints is the perfect landing spot for him.

11. Harvey Langford - while not the type of midfielder the Saints may be looking for, Langford is too good to pass up at this stage of the draft. A big bodied mid who can also push forward and hit the scoreboard and with the Saints midfielders getting older Langford starts the process of bringing in their next wave.

12. Luke Trainor - Melbourne target a KPP at this pick and they opt for Trainor to come in and learn under May and Lever for a couple of years. Trainor was another kid who was hyped up early in the year but then fell away as others started to push up the order, still no denying his talent despite the concussion concerns.

13. Harry Armstrong - Richmond need KPP help and the way this falls Armstong lands here and gives us a future number 1 KPF option to build around. Will get the chance to learn under Lynch for a year of 2 before being handed the keys to the forward line.

14. Bo Allan - the midfield rebuild continues with Allan being added to Smith & Smillie. Allan could start out across HB early on at AFL level, but given we're quite settled there I can see him playing a lot of midfield minutes in the VFL early on before earning his shot.

15. Tobie Travaglia - having missed out on Allan, the Eagles opt for Travaglia who can play a similar role for them, starting out across HB early on before pushing up into the midfield. Travaglia would give the Eagles good ball use coming out of D50 with his run and carry being a strong point.

16. Joe Berry - Port are not really needing much, but a small forward who can hit the scoreboard and push into the midfield is something they could use. Berry averaged 14 disposals 6 score involvements & 2 goals a game in both the CTL & Champs and would be a point of difference in their F50.

17. Taj Hotton - Fremantle have loaded up in their quest for a first flag, so can opt to take a kid in Hotton here that will miss a fair chunk of the 2025 season as he recovers from an ACL. In time he could from a strong partnership with Bolton as mid/forwards with X factor.

18. Jobe Shanahan - GWS invest in their long term future with Shanahan here with Hogan turning 30 before the 2025 season. Shanahan proved in his VFL stint that he could have an impact early on if required, but the Giants don't need him to do that. They can take their time and develop him along side Cadman for the future.

19. Xavier Lindsay - having lost the likes of Perryman, Cumming & Peatling the Giants opt to bring in Lindsay here to start covering some of those departures. Lindsay won the Morrish Medal this year and is known for his ability to use the ball well.

20. Sam Marshall - The Dogs bid on Marshall and the Lions add another R1 talent to their list in a year when they won the flag.

21. Cooper Hynes - The Dogs opt for Hynes here after losing Smith & Macrae from their midfield unit. Hynes is a powerful big bodied mid/forward who can impact through the middle and inside F50

22. Jesse Datolli - having lost Bolton the Tigers need X factor and opt for Datolli who like Bolton can provide a spark I50 at the fall of the ball, but can also push up and be part of the midfield rotation. With this pick we cover another hole that needs to be addressed.

23. Alex Dodson - the Swans are pretty well stocked in most areas so they opt for the best available here and go for Alex Dodson to give them a ruckman for the future. The Swans ruck stocks are Grundy Ladhams and an untried Will Green.

24. Jonty Faull - Richmond opt for another young KPF for the future in Faull. With Armstrong we will have a couple of mobile KPF talents to build our forward line around moving forward. Some may think it's overkill having Armstrong Faull Gray Koschitzke & Fawcett on the books, but facts are not all of them will make it so lets give ourselves the chance to find at least 2 that will make it, hopefully more.

25. Matt Whitlock - after getting Shanahan earlier, the Giants address their KPD stocks and bring in Matt Whitlock who they can develop as a long term KPD option. Matt has shown that he can also play up forward with great effect but they start him out as a KPD.

26. Ollie Hannaford - as mentioned earlier the Swans aren't really wanting for anything, but they could use a kid like Hannaford to give them some more X factor inside F50.

27. Hamish Davis - a bit of a bolter but having taken Allan earlier on, we bring in another WA kid to ease any issues with homesickness. Davis is more than just an insurance policy though. The kid is a talented player in his own right and proven himself across all levels with a standout performance in the WAFL finals where he had 21 disposals & 4 goals in a senior final, then went back to Colts level and had 30 disposals 8 clearances and 12 score involvements as he won BOG in the Colts Grand Final.

Bonus pick

28. Harry Oliver - having lost Baker & Rioli from our half back line, we take Harry Oliver with the first pick of the 2nd round as a small rebounding defender who also has the ability to play 1-1 and win intercept possessions.

I understand that not everyone will like this draft given their preferred options aren't taken at the top, or even through the middle stages, but this is my opinion and like everyone else here it's pretty much meaningless in the Grand scheme of things as the club will do as they see fit.

So feel free to criticize/dissect as you like. I just hope you enjoy the read.

 

[lizard man]

Would we get pick 2 off kangas just to take tauru at pick 2 to screw them over?

 

[tiger_tough]

you think lalor is better than having both Armstrong and Langford?

So if jagga slides

We would have Jagga(M), Langford(HF), Armstrong (FF) Trav (HB) and Trainor (FB)

that would be the spine done in one draft... Its interesting you would have to admit but the internet is about extremes its either F Yess or F Nooo

I'd rather have the best player in the draft than the 6th and the 10th best players, yes.

Especially given we have so many other early picks to target players with.

 

[Grechy]

Has he said anything about midfielders?

Reckons Jagger should be clear first pick. Will be a fantastic mid for years, consistent but not sure on the ceiling.

 

[tiger_tough]

My Personal Opinion Round 1 (No trades)

1. Jagga Smith - proven performer at every level this year, including a strong 3 game run at VFL level against mature bodies where he averaged 27 disposals 6 clearances 14 ground ball gets 5 score involvements & 2 tackles. An attacking midfielder who would compliment the likes of Taranto & Hopper in the midfield.

2. Levi Ashcroft - North makes the first bid and force the Lions to pay fair value for Ashcroft. Amazing that the reigning premiers get to add a kid this talented.

3. Finn O'Sullivan - For all the noise about North liking Tauru they take O'Sullivan and continue to add talent to their young midfield brigade of Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, Phillips & Powell. This pick also means North could make a similar move to what some were suggesting we do with Balta and allow LDU to depart via free agency next year and bring in a R1 compo pick to allow them to target KPPs next year.

4. Sid Draper - Carlton misses out on getting O'Sullivan but pick up Draper who adds a point of difference to their midfield mix. Draper would give Carlton that dynamic player who can breakaway from the contest and drive the ball forward quickly to give McKay and Curnow the chance to compete 1-1 more often.

5. Sam Lalor - Adelaide get the kid that many suggest we're linked with at pick 1 in what could be the steal of the draft if he develops as some hope. Lalor partnering up with Rankine would give the Crows an exciting partnership that would rotate mid/forward as they see fit.

6. Murphy Reid - Melbourne add some outside class to their strong contested midfield unit in Reid who has been compared to Scott Pendlebury by many draft watchers. He would compliment their midfield very nicely.

7. Josh Smillie - an early season favourite for pick 1, Smillie struggled a bit in the 2nd half of the season with talk he was battling a bit of a niggle. He has been described as a Tom Green/Patrick Cripps type of midfielder and we could certainly do with a big brute midfielder moving forward.

8. Leo Lombard - Saints bid on Lombard and make the Suns pay up. Lombard will play from R1 next year and will have an impact for the Suns through the middle.

9. Issac Kako - The Saints now bid on Kako and force the Bombers to cough up for their NGA kid. Kako will become a fan favourite at Essendon as he gives them a real spark inside F50.

10. Alix Tauru - the Saints lost Battle to Free Agency so take a kid that can slot into that spot in time. Tauru has come with a rush in the 2nd half of the season to climb into R1 calculations and the Saints is the perfect landing spot for him.

11. Harvey Langford - while not the type of midfielder the Saints may be looking for, Langford is too good to pass up at this stage of the draft. A big bodied mid who can also push forward and hit the scoreboard and with the Saints midfielders getting older Langford starts the process of bringing in their next wave.

12. Luke Trainor - Melbourne target a KPP at this pick and they opt for Trainor to come in and learn under May and Lever for a couple of years. Trainor was another kid who was hyped up early in the year but then fell away as others started to push up the order, still no denying his talent despite the concussion concerns.

13. Harry Armstrong - Richmond need KPP help and the way this falls Armstong lands here and gives us a future number 1 KPF option to build around. Will get the chance to learn under Lynch for a year of 2 before being handed the keys to the forward line.

14. Bo Allan - the midfield rebuild continues with Allan being added to Smith & Smillie. Allan could start out across HB early on at AFL level, but given we're quite settled there I can see him playing a lot of midfield minutes in the VFL early on before earning his shot.

15. Tobie Travaglia - having missed out on Allan, the Eagles opt for Travaglia who can play a similar role for them, starting out across HB early on before pushing up into the midfield. Travaglia would give the Eagles good ball use coming out of D50 with his run and carry being a strong point.

16. Joe Berry - Port are not really needing much, but a small forward who can hit the scoreboard and push into the midfield is something they could use. Berry averaged 14 disposals 6 score involvements & 2 goals a game in both the CTL & Champs and would be a point of difference in their F50.

17. Taj Hotton - Fremantle have loaded up in their quest for a first flag, so can opt to take a kid in Hotton here that will miss a fair chunk of the 2025 season as he recovers from an ACL. In time he could from a strong partnership with Bolton as mid/forwards with X factor.

18. Jobe Shanahan - GWS invest in their long term future with Shanahan here with Hogan turning 30 before the 2025 season. Shanahan proved in his VFL stint that he could have an impact early on if required, but the Giants don't need him to do that. They can take their time and develop him along side Cadman for the future.

19. Xavier Lindsay - having lost the likes of Perryman, Cumming & Peatling the Giants opt to bring in Lindsay here to start covering some of those departures. Lindsay won the Morrish Medal this year and is known for his ability to use the ball well.

20. Sam Marshall - The Dogs bid on Marshall and the Lions add another R1 talent to their list in a year when they won the flag.

21. Cooper Hynes - The Dogs opt for Hynes here after losing Smith & Macrae from their midfield unit. Hynes is a powerful big bodied mid/forward who can impact through the middle and inside F50

22. Jesse Datolli - having lost Bolton the Tigers need X factor and opt for Datolli who like Bolton can provide a spark I50 at the fall of the ball, but can also push up and be part of the midfield rotation. With this pick we cover another hole that needs to be addressed.

23. Alex Dodson - the Swans are pretty well stocked in most areas so they opt for the best available here and go for Alex Dodson to give them a ruckman for the future. The Swans ruck stocks are Grundy Ladhams and an untried Will Green.

24. Jonty Faull - Richmond opt for another young KPF for the future in Faull. With Armstrong we will have a couple of mobile KPF talents to build our forward line around moving forward. Some may think it's overkill having Armstrong Faull Gray Koschitzke & Fawcett on the books, but facts are not all of them will make it so lets give ourselves the chance to find at least 2 that will make it, hopefully more.

25. Matt Whitlock - after getting Shanahan earlier, the Giants address their KPD stocks and bring in Matt Whitlock who they can develop as a long term KPD option. Matt has shown that he can also play up forward with great effect but they start him out as a KPD.

26. Ollie Hannaford - as mentioned earlier the Swans aren't really wanting for anything, but they could use a kid like Hannaford to give them some more X factor inside F50.

27. Hamish Davis - a bit of a bolter but having taken Allan earlier on, we bring in another WA kid to ease any issues with homesickness. Davis is more than just an insurance policy though. The kid is a talented player in his own right and proven himself across all levels with a standout performance in the WAFL finals where he had 21 disposals & 4 goals in a senior final, then went back to Colts level and had 30 disposals 8 clearances and 12 score involvements as he won BOG in the Colts Grand Final.

Bonus pick

28. Harry Oliver - having lost Baker & Rioli from our half back line, we take Harry Oliver with the first pick of the 2nd round as a small rebounding defender who also has the ability to play 1-1 and win intercept possessions.

I understand that not everyone will like this draft given their preferred options aren't taken at the top, or even through the middle stages, but this is my opinion and like everyone else here it's pretty much meaningless in the Grand scheme of things as the club will do as they see fit.

So feel free to criticize/dissect as you like. I just hope you enjoy the read.

Does this come in an audio book version?

 

[lizard man]

My Personal Opinion Round 1 (No trades)

1. Jagga Smith - proven performer at every level this year, including a strong 3 game run at VFL level against mature bodies where he averaged 27 disposals 6 clearances 14 ground ball gets 5 score involvements & 2 tackles. An attacking midfielder who would compliment the likes of Taranto & Hopper in the midfield.

2. Levi Ashcroft - North makes the first bid and force the Lions to pay fair value for Ashcroft. Amazing that the reigning premiers get to add a kid this talented.

3. Finn O'Sullivan - For all the noise about North liking Tauru they take O'Sullivan and continue to add talent to their young midfield brigade of Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, Phillips & Powell. This pick also means North could make a similar move to what some were suggesting we do with Balta and allow LDU to depart via free agency next year and bring in a R1 compo pick to allow them to target KPPs next year.

4. Sid Draper - Carlton misses out on getting O'Sullivan but pick up Draper who adds a point of difference to their midfield mix. Draper would give Carlton that dynamic player who can breakaway from the contest and drive the ball forward quickly to give McKay and Curnow the chance to compete 1-1 more often.

5. Sam Lalor - Adelaide get the kid that many suggest we're linked with at pick 1 in what could be the steal of the draft if he develops as some hope. Lalor partnering up with Rankine would give the Crows an exciting partnership that would rotate mid/forward as they see fit.

6. Murphy Reid - Melbourne add some outside class to their strong contested midfield unit in Reid who has been compared to Scott Pendlebury by many draft watchers. He would compliment their midfield very nicely.

7. Josh Smillie - an early season favourite for pick 1, Smillie struggled a bit in the 2nd half of the season with talk he was battling a bit of a niggle. He has been described as a Tom Green/Patrick Cripps type of midfielder and we could certainly do with a big brute midfielder moving forward.

8. Leo Lombard - Saints bid on Lombard and make the Suns pay up. Lombard will play from R1 next year and will have an impact for the Suns through the middle.

9. Issac Kako - The Saints now bid on Kako and force the Bombers to cough up for their NGA kid. Kako will become a fan favourite at Essendon as he gives them a real spark inside F50.

10. Alix Tauru - the Saints lost Battle to Free Agency so take a kid that can slot into that spot in time. Tauru has come with a rush in the 2nd half of the season to climb into R1 calculations and the Saints is the perfect landing spot for him.

11. Harvey Langford - while not the type of midfielder the Saints may be looking for, Langford is too good to pass up at this stage of the draft. A big bodied mid who can also push forward and hit the scoreboard and with the Saints midfielders getting older Langford starts the process of bringing in their next wave.

12. Luke Trainor - Melbourne target a KPP at this pick and they opt for Trainor to come in and learn under May and Lever for a couple of years. Trainor was another kid who was hyped up early in the year but then fell away as others started to push up the order, still no denying his talent despite the concussion concerns.

13. Harry Armstrong - Richmond need KPP help and the way this falls Armstong lands here and gives us a future number 1 KPF option to build around. Will get the chance to learn under Lynch for a year of 2 before being handed the keys to the forward line.

14. Bo Allan - the midfield rebuild continues with Allan being added to Smith & Smillie. Allan could start out across HB early on at AFL level, but given we're quite settled there I can see him playing a lot of midfield minutes in the VFL early on before earning his shot.

15. Tobie Travaglia - having missed out on Allan, the Eagles opt for Travaglia who can play a similar role for them, starting out across HB early on before pushing up into the midfield. Travaglia would give the Eagles good ball use coming out of D50 with his run and carry being a strong point.

16. Joe Berry - Port are not really needing much, but a small forward who can hit the scoreboard and push into the midfield is something they could use. Berry averaged 14 disposals 6 score involvements & 2 goals a game in both the CTL & Champs and would be a point of difference in their F50.

17. Taj Hotton - Fremantle have loaded up in their quest for a first flag, so can opt to take a kid in Hotton here that will miss a fair chunk of the 2025 season as he recovers from an ACL. In time he could from a strong partnership with Bolton as mid/forwards with X factor.

18. Jobe Shanahan - GWS invest in their long term future with Shanahan here with Hogan turning 30 before the 2025 season. Shanahan proved in his VFL stint that he could have an impact early on if required, but the Giants don't need him to do that. They can take their time and develop him along side Cadman for the future.

19. Xavier Lindsay - having lost the likes of Perryman, Cumming & Peatling the Giants opt to bring in Lindsay here to start covering some of those departures. Lindsay won the Morrish Medal this year and is known for his ability to use the ball well.

20. Sam Marshall - The Dogs bid on Marshall and the Lions add another R1 talent to their list in a year when they won the flag.

21. Cooper Hynes - The Dogs opt for Hynes here after losing Smith & Macrae from their midfield unit. Hynes is a powerful big bodied mid/forward who can impact through the middle and inside F50

22. Jesse Datolli - having lost Bolton the Tigers need X factor and opt for Datolli who like Bolton can provide a spark I50 at the fall of the ball, but can also push up and be part of the midfield rotation. With this pick we cover another hole that needs to be addressed.

23. Alex Dodson - the Swans are pretty well stocked in most areas so they opt for the best available here and go for Alex Dodson to give them a ruckman for the future. The Swans ruck stocks are Grundy Ladhams and an untried Will Green.

24. Jonty Faull - Richmond opt for another young KPF for the future in Faull. With Armstrong we will have a couple of mobile KPF talents to build our forward line around moving forward. Some may think it's overkill having Armstrong Faull Gray Koschitzke & Fawcett on the books, but facts are not all of them will make it so lets give ourselves the chance to find at least 2 that will make it, hopefully more.

25. Matt Whitlock - after getting Shanahan earlier, the Giants address their KPD stocks and bring in Matt Whitlock who they can develop as a long term KPD option. Matt has shown that he can also play up forward with great effect but they start him out as a KPD.

26. Ollie Hannaford - as mentioned earlier the Swans aren't really wanting for anything, but they could use a kid like Hannaford to give them some more X factor inside F50.

27. Hamish Davis - a bit of a bolter but having taken Allan earlier on, we bring in another WA kid to ease any issues with homesickness. Davis is more than just an insurance policy though. The kid is a talented player in his own right and proven himself across all levels with a standout performance in the WAFL finals where he had 21 disposals & 4 goals in a senior final, then went back to Colts level and had 30 disposals 8 clearances and 12 score involvements as he won BOG in the Colts Grand Final.

Bonus pick

28. Harry Oliver - having lost Baker & Rioli from our half back line, we take Harry Oliver with the first pick of the 2nd round as a small rebounding defender who also has the ability to play 1-1 and win intercept possessions.

I understand that not everyone will like this draft given their preferred options aren't taken at the top, or even through the middle stages, but this is my opinion and like everyone else here it's pretty much meaningless in the Grand scheme of things as the club will do as they see fit.

So feel free to criticize/dissect as you like. I just hope you enjoy the read.

We must get smillie at one of our early picks …. Otherwise we have failed the draft

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

depends if we tank next year or want to loose games

no way with a full list without injuries we are bottom

Agree

 

[THE THIN MAN]

would we take picks 5 and 9 from Melbourne if they offered it to us for pick 1?

Same value (almost) as pick 2 for 6 and 11...

What do people get hung up on points.

The question is:
Is the player the best in the draft that suits our future needs?

 

[Wacky Tiger]

What do people get hung up on points.

The question is:
Is the player the best in the draft that suits our future needs?

Yeah the points system serves a purpose but also is totally irrelevant at the same time


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Does this come in an audio book version?

Maybe get your carer to read it to you.

 

[prodigy]

We must get smillie at one of our early picks …. Otherwise we have failed the draft

That's dramatic

 

[lizard man]

That's dramatic

I’ve been keeping track of him recently and came to the conclusion that he has the most upside of any player in this draft …. If you don’t pick the player with the most upside at either pick 1 or pick 6 then I consider that a fail …. But that’s just my opinion

 

[Michaels]

No I reckon they won’t pick Armstrong because they’ve gone KPF in 2 of last 3 drafts.

Their midfield however is old, injured and a mess.

Brayshaw - retired
Viney - 31
Petracca - hates the club and coming off an injury akin to someone in a car crash
Oliver - is just a really messy situation, his off field stuff from his side is dodgy and the club higher ups shopping him around at afl functions despite list management not being in their job description screams of problems

Rivers - gun

That’s it. The rest are pinch hitters, small forwards, wingers or HBF.

Go read their draft thread, they’re desperate for mids and none seem to want Armstrong.

They’re not risking missing the plug and play certainly of Jagga/Langford for 12 years at 5 for the prospect of a very raw Tauru or another tall forward.

Also for what it is worth Bird Man I had a raft of dees supporters telling me on twitter that they highly doubt they would take Armstrong because of the reasons Calcium Man listed as well.

Initially I was thinking Dees take him with 5, but they are seemingly desperate for Mids.

On this basis I have a little bit of hope that Armstrong could slip to 10. Needs a bit of luck of course.

 

[tora tora tora]

Does this come in an audio book version?

nah, spotifty podcast and youtube channels.

 

[daird]

Depending on North's season next year, 6 & 11 for 2 and F1 could be super spicy.

Best case scenario we have Picks 1 & 2 both years. While they should improve, I can't see North making the 8 next year even with their pick ups and another pre-season for their elite young players, so worst case it's pick 10 next year, which isn't a bad pick at all even when factoring in this years depth, normally top 10 picks are better than anything that comes after. That said, I think realistically it will be somewhere between Pick 3-6.


Will all come down to how badly we want Pick 2 for FOS or Lalor, or we have players in mind that should be available around the 6 & 11 mark that we would prefer.

 

[tora tora tora]

Is Dr Davidson going to get picked up?

was he in the mid season draft and everybody passed?

 

[Wrenny]

My Personal Opinion Round 1 (No trades)

1. Jagga Smith - proven performer at every level this year, including a strong 3 game run at VFL level against mature bodies where he averaged 27 disposals 6 clearances 14 ground ball gets 5 score involvements & 2 tackles. An attacking midfielder who would compliment the likes of Taranto & Hopper in the midfield.

2. Levi Ashcroft - North makes the first bid and force the Lions to pay fair value for Ashcroft. Amazing that the reigning premiers get to add a kid this talented.

3. Finn O'Sullivan - For all the noise about North liking Tauru they take O'Sullivan and continue to add talent to their young midfield brigade of Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, Phillips & Powell. This pick also means North could make a similar move to what some were suggesting we do with Balta and allow LDU to depart via free agency next year and bring in a R1 compo pick to allow them to target KPPs next year.

4. Sid Draper - Carlton misses out on getting O'Sullivan but pick up Draper who adds a point of difference to their midfield mix. Draper would give Carlton that dynamic player who can breakaway from the contest and drive the ball forward quickly to give McKay and Curnow the chance to compete 1-1 more often.

5. Sam Lalor - Adelaide get the kid that many suggest we're linked with at pick 1 in what could be the steal of the draft if he develops as some hope. Lalor partnering up with Rankine would give the Crows an exciting partnership that would rotate mid/forward as they see fit.

6. Murphy Reid - Melbourne add some outside class to their strong contested midfield unit in Reid who has been compared to Scott Pendlebury by many draft watchers. He would compliment their midfield very nicely.

7. Josh Smillie - an early season favourite for pick 1, Smillie struggled a bit in the 2nd half of the season with talk he was battling a bit of a niggle. He has been described as a Tom Green/Patrick Cripps type of midfielder and we could certainly do with a big brute midfielder moving forward.

8. Leo Lombard - Saints bid on Lombard and make the Suns pay up. Lombard will play from R1 next year and will have an impact for the Suns through the middle.

9. Issac Kako - The Saints now bid on Kako and force the Bombers to cough up for their NGA kid. Kako will become a fan favourite at Essendon as he gives them a real spark inside F50.

10. Alix Tauru - the Saints lost Battle to Free Agency so take a kid that can slot into that spot in time. Tauru has come with a rush in the 2nd half of the season to climb into R1 calculations and the Saints is the perfect landing spot for him.

11. Harvey Langford - while not the type of midfielder the Saints may be looking for, Langford is too good to pass up at this stage of the draft. A big bodied mid who can also push forward and hit the scoreboard and with the Saints midfielders getting older Langford starts the process of bringing in their next wave.

12. Luke Trainor - Melbourne target a KPP at this pick and they opt for Trainor to come in and learn under May and Lever for a couple of years. Trainor was another kid who was hyped up early in the year but then fell away as others started to push up the order, still no denying his talent despite the concussion concerns.

13. Harry Armstrong - Richmond need KPP help and the way this falls Armstong lands here and gives us a future number 1 KPF option to build around. Will get the chance to learn under Lynch for a year of 2 before being handed the keys to the forward line.

14. Bo Allan - the midfield rebuild continues with Allan being added to Smith & Smillie. Allan could start out across HB early on at AFL level, but given we're quite settled there I can see him playing a lot of midfield minutes in the VFL early on before earning his shot.

15. Tobie Travaglia - having missed out on Allan, the Eagles opt for Travaglia who can play a similar role for them, starting out across HB early on before pushing up into the midfield. Travaglia would give the Eagles good ball use coming out of D50 with his run and carry being a strong point.

16. Joe Berry - Port are not really needing much, but a small forward who can hit the scoreboard and push into the midfield is something they could use. Berry averaged 14 disposals 6 score involvements & 2 goals a game in both the CTL & Champs and would be a point of difference in their F50.

17. Taj Hotton - Fremantle have loaded up in their quest for a first flag, so can opt to take a kid in Hotton here that will miss a fair chunk of the 2025 season as he recovers from an ACL. In time he could from a strong partnership with Bolton as mid/forwards with X factor.

18. Jobe Shanahan - GWS invest in their long term future with Shanahan here with Hogan turning 30 before the 2025 season. Shanahan proved in his VFL stint that he could have an impact early on if required, but the Giants don't need him to do that. They can take their time and develop him along side Cadman for the future.

19. Xavier Lindsay - having lost the likes of Perryman, Cumming & Peatling the Giants opt to bring in Lindsay here to start covering some of those departures. Lindsay won the Morrish Medal this year and is known for his ability to use the ball well.

20. Sam Marshall - The Dogs bid on Marshall and the Lions add another R1 talent to their list in a year when they won the flag.

21. Cooper Hynes - The Dogs opt for Hynes here after losing Smith & Macrae from their midfield unit. Hynes is a powerful big bodied mid/forward who can impact through the middle and inside F50

22. Jesse Datolli - having lost Bolton the Tigers need X factor and opt for Datolli who like Bolton can provide a spark I50 at the fall of the ball, but can also push up and be part of the midfield rotation. With this pick we cover another hole that needs to be addressed.

23. Alex Dodson - the Swans are pretty well stocked in most areas so they opt for the best available here and go for Alex Dodson to give them a ruckman for the future. The Swans ruck stocks are Grundy Ladhams and an untried Will Green.

24. Jonty Faull - Richmond opt for another young KPF for the future in Faull. With Armstrong we will have a couple of mobile KPF talents to build our forward line around moving forward. Some may think it's overkill having Armstrong Faull Gray Koschitzke & Fawcett on the books, but facts are not all of them will make it so lets give ourselves the chance to find at least 2 that will make it, hopefully more.

25. Matt Whitlock - after getting Shanahan earlier, the Giants address their KPD stocks and bring in Matt Whitlock who they can develop as a long term KPD option. Matt has shown that he can also play up forward with great effect but they start him out as a KPD.

26. Ollie Hannaford - as mentioned earlier the Swans aren't really wanting for anything, but they could use a kid like Hannaford to give them some more X factor inside F50.

27. Hamish Davis - a bit of a bolter but having taken Allan earlier on, we bring in another WA kid to ease any issues with homesickness. Davis is more than just an insurance policy though. The kid is a talented player in his own right and proven himself across all levels with a standout performance in the WAFL finals where he had 21 disposals & 4 goals in a senior final, then went back to Colts level and had 30 disposals 8 clearances and 12 score involvements as he won BOG in the Colts Grand Final.

Bonus pick

28. Harry Oliver - having lost Baker & Rioli from our half back line, we take Harry Oliver with the first pick of the 2nd round as a small rebounding defender who also has the ability to play 1-1 and win intercept possessions.

I understand that not everyone will like this draft given their preferred options aren't taken at the top, or even through the middle stages, but this is my opinion and like everyone else here it's pretty much meaningless in the Grand scheme of things as the club will do as they see fit.

So feel free to criticize/dissect as you like. I just hope you enjoy the read.

Of the available players in this scenario (swapped picks with who you chose eg. Jagga goes to crows etc) I’d take:

1. Sam Lalor
7. Harvey Langford
13. Harry Armstrong
14. Tobie Travaglia
22. Matt Whitlock
24. Ollie Hannaford
27. Alex Dodson
28. Jesse Dattoli

 

[Tigerbob]

Is Dr Davidson going to get picked up?

Yes but not by us.

I think Essendon or Sydney are possible.

 

[tiger_tough]

Maybe get your carer to read it to you.

Yes but not by us.

I think Essendon or Sydney are possible.

don't we rate him?

 

[tigs2010]

Also for what it is worth Bird Man I had a raft of dees supporters telling me on twitter that they highly doubt they would take Armstrong because of the reasons Calcium Man listed as well.

Initially I was thinking Dees take him with 5, but they are seemingly desperate for Mids.

On this basis I have a little bit of hope that Armstrong could slip to 10. Needs a bit of luck of course.

Yeah they've invested in forwards. JvR is AFL quality albeit just a good solid player. They need to give Jefferson a chance. If Jefferson doesn't make it they'll trade or FA one imo.

Same reason I think we would only take 1. I've seen people around advocate for 2 or 3 but then you're just throwing darts.

 

[Wrenny]

Maybe get your carer to read it to you.