List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

[guruisatiger]

So much upside in Hotton, I know he's coming off an ACL but I'd be happy to grab him. ​

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could be the best player in the draft​

Matthew Lloyd believes one draft slider could land up being the best player out of this year’s crop.
Sandringham Dragons’ mid-forward Taj Hotton tore his ACL earlier in the year, which is expected to see him slide down the order.

But Lloyd says Hotton, who he coaches at Haileybury, could be the best player out of this year’s draft.

“One to watch is Taj Hotton,” Lloyd said on Wide World of Sports.
“He is from Haileybury and did his ACL mid-season, but I think he’s a top five draft pick.
“Whoever selects him could may well get the best player in the draft.”

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could land up being the best player in the draft - 3AW Wide World of Sports

Matthew Lloyd delivers his draft analysis and one player to keep an out for.

omny.fm

surprise ****ing surprise someone matthew lloyd coaches could be the best player
just like that slug armstrong is the greatest forward because matthew lloyd coaches him
**** off lloyd you ********er

 

[djspank]

whats wrong with the name finn ? a great traditional irish name

 

[AstuteTiger]

Lloyd's judgement has been pretty lousy in the past. In 2016 he said Hardwick should be fired and we needed to rebuild and trade out players as the team was trash and miles off a flag. He's also highly biased with kids he's affiliated with previously declaring the King Brothers and Joe Daniher would be the best players in the comp. He also said Luke Davies Uniacke is the best player he'd ever seen in U18's. LDU is 7 years in now and 1st year he's done anything and even then probably just scrapes in the best 100 players league wide. He's got a vested interest in talking up his players as it gives Haileybury more prestige the more players are drafted higher up. Lefau's year was level pegging with Max King and 1 was a former pick 4 and the other a foreign born supplementary pick. Lloyd's opinions hold little value.

True he also pumps up FOS in the audio. I don't think he going to be the best player as Lloyd has stated but I will say most punters have Hotton as a top 10 if he hadn't done his ACL. I've seen enough to think he is going to be a gun.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Some stuff to like, but I hate how up-and-under his kicking generally is.

A bit of Shai about him, is slippery around the contest and good overhead.
Im talking about Hotton as potentially our 5th picked player. Just shows the level of talent on offer in this draft.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Some stuff to like, but I hate how up-and-under his kicking generally is.

Just also wondering about his running action. Very long strides with some heal striking there I think, and it is possible this has led to his ACL problem. In the picture captured below he is turning/decelerating but that doesn't look a great position to put your leg in when running at speed. It is a bit hard to tell from the footage, other times he seems to strike the ground in a safe enough position under his body. The worry is definitely that ACL and we can see from the bandaging on his knee here the ACL is clearly not the first issue he has had. Very slippery looking player so if he was sound he would be a great prospect. A bit like Peter Matera?

 

[richoatthedisco]

Hotton is one of the few players in the draft with electric pace. Combine it with his agility, ball-winning ability, leap, hands, goal-kicking nous, creativity and slipperiness. He's a must-have for me.

 

[Infamy]

So much upside in Hotton, I know he's coming off an ACL but I'd be happy to grab him. ​

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could be the best player in the draft​

Matthew Lloyd believes one draft slider could land up being the best player out of this year’s crop.
Sandringham Dragons’ mid-forward Taj Hotton tore his ACL earlier in the year, which is expected to see him slide down the order.

But Lloyd says Hotton, who he coaches at Haileybury, could be the best player out of this year’s draft.

“One to watch is Taj Hotton,” Lloyd said on Wide World of Sports.
“He is from Haileybury and did his ACL mid-season, but I think he’s a top five draft pick.
“Whoever selects him could may well get the best player in the draft.”

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could land up being the best player in the draft - 3AW Wide World of Sports

Matthew Lloyd delivers his draft analysis and one player to keep an out for.

omny.fm

This was some of the footage I watched of him earlier this week and I just don't see it in him
Sure he has some nice movement, but his disposal is attrocious
Grubber kick, lucky to go 5 meters to a teammate
Long kick to a contest
Takes an eternity then kicks out wide to an open player but in a way that gives his opponent the ability to contest it
Kicks to a 2 on 1, turnover
Good kick marked by a team mate on the wing
Nice interception, then kicks inside 50 but it ends up being a grubber along the ground straight to an opponent
Shows some nice evasiveness, then handpasses 2 meters to an opponent (while being tackled/under pressure, but still)
Kicking for goal about 25 out, behind

I couldn't even finish the video before putting a line through his name

 

[of unsound mind]

So much upside in Hotton, I know he's coming off an ACL but I'd be happy to grab him. ​

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could be the best player in the draft​

Matthew Lloyd believes one draft slider could land up being the best player out of this year’s crop.
Sandringham Dragons’ mid-forward Taj Hotton tore his ACL earlier in the year, which is expected to see him slide down the order.

But Lloyd says Hotton, who he coaches at Haileybury, could be the best player out of this year’s draft.

“One to watch is Taj Hotton,” Lloyd said on Wide World of Sports.
“He is from Haileybury and did his ACL mid-season, but I think he’s a top five draft pick.
“Whoever selects him could may well get the best player in the draft.”

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could land up being the best player in the draft - 3AW Wide World of Sports

Matthew Lloyd delivers his draft analysis and one player to keep an out for.

omny.fm

Matty Lloyd!!!

 

[prodigy]

Mum always told me to never trust a man with two first names so unfortunately I think we should pass

What about two last names?
Jagga Smith?

 

[prodigy]

Hotton is one of the few players in the draft with electric pace. Combine it with his agility, ball-winning ability, leap, hands, goal-kicking nous, creativity and slipperiness. He's a must-have for me.

Yep. 100% with you there.
Very smooth mover and very elusive.

 

[prodigy]

I couldn't even finish the video before putting a line through his name

Imagine if our recruiters did their research this way.

Goodness gracious.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

What do you expect?

 

[SA_Tiger11]

This was some of the footage I watched of him earlier this week and I just don't see it in him
Sure he has some nice movement, but his disposal is attrocious
Grubber kick, lucky to go 5 meters to a teammate
Long kick to a contest
Takes an eternity then kicks out wide to an open player but in a way that gives his opponent the ability to contest it
Kicks to a 2 on 1, turnover
Good kick marked by a team mate on the wing
Nice interception, then kicks inside 50 but it ends up being a grubber along the ground straight to an opponent
Shows some nice evasiveness, then handpasses 2 meters to an opponent (while being tackled/under pressure, but still)
Kicking for goal about 25 out, behind

I couldn't even finish the video before putting a line through his name

Bit stiff. Had a few perfectly weighted kicks to team mates on a lead.

Evasiveness is pretty elite.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Practising for prison

 

[Muddiemoose]

8 pages… anything worth reading?

A couple of really insightful posts by Muddiemoose but otherwise not really

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Lloyd's judgement has been pretty lousy in the past. In 2016 he said Hardwick should be fired and we needed to rebuild and trade out players as the team was trash and miles off a flag. He's also highly biased with kids he's affiliated with previously declaring the King Brothers and Joe Daniher would be the best players in the comp. He also said Luke Davies Uniacke is the best player he'd ever seen in U18's. LDU is 7 years in now and 1st year he's done anything and even then probably just scrapes in the best 100 players league wide. He's got a vested interest in talking up his players as it gives Haileybury more prestige the more players are drafted higher up. Lefau's year was level pegging with Max King and 1 was a former pick 4 and the other a foreign born supplementary pick. Lloyd's opinions hold little value.

Staff from Haileybury are under investigation by the teaching regulator over their presence at a boozy footy party attended by underage students.

Police are also expected to interview Haileybury students and their parents over coming days as they piece together more details of the controversial celebrations in Dingley.

The alcohol-fuelled party was attended by celebrity school football coaches, former AFL players Matthew Lloyd and Ty Zantuck, along with four other Haileybury staff.

Fraternising with students outside school hours, especially at a private party, is a direct breach of the Haileybury staff code of conduct and numerous child safety laws.

It is understood the jubilant coaching team had been celebrating together before turning up at the party which was held at a parent’s house.

VIT is assessing whether action needs to be taken against two Haileybury College teachers.

The Victorian Institute of Teaching is undertaking a preliminary assessment to determine whether to take action against two registered teachers.

No Haileybury staff have been suspended on an interim basis, which suggests their attendance at the party has not been deemed to pose an unacceptable risk to students.

The Herald Sun revealed last Friday that Haileybury staff, including Mr Lloyd, had been disciplined by the school for attending the party.

Then on Saturday the paper reported Mr Zantuck was stood down by the school amid concerns raised of inappropriate touching at the private event celebrating the Haileybury boys’ football win over Caulfield Grammar to clinch the first division premiership.


The alleged touching was alleged to have occurred at the party.

Mr Zantuck has strenuously denied an allegation he inappropriately touched a teenage girl at a party attended by students, after police confirmed they were investigating the matter.

His lawyer, Greg Griffin, also denied the allegation and insisted his client had only knocked a woman into a chair by accident.

Bayside Sexual Offences and Child Abuse Investigation Team confirmed that “detectives are investigating after a report of a sexual assault which occurred on July 29”.

It comes as Haileybury principal Derek Scott told the school community over the weekend that “we immediately stood down all staff involved whilst we investigated”.

Mr Lloyd returned to his role after a number of days, but Mr Zantuck has not.

Mr Scott said the school had “taken further disciplinary action against staff members who were regarded as having contravened professional obligations that require staff not to attend social gatherings with parents and students outside of school-organised events”.

“We are committed to taking every possible step to ensure this situation does not happen again,” he said.

Other private schools hiring external coaches have held crisis meetings, stressing the need for professional behaviour in all situations

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/victoria-education/victorian-institute-of-teaching-investigating-four-haileybury-college-staff-who-partied-with-underage-students/news-story/086c0f0fa92aba0add1dede9479664cf

 

[TheDyerLegacy]

Still can’t get over the fact we didn’t give Davidson a spot in the MSD. That is such a Richmond move

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Still can’t get over the fact we didn’t give Davidson a spot in the MSD. That is such a Richmond move

Which club picked him up, I was under the impression no club selected him.

I am surprised Essendon didn't select him

 

[THE THIN MAN]

South Australian AFL hopefuls are counting the days until this month’s drafts.

The immediate football futures of some of the most talented young players from across the country will be determined from November 20-22.

This masthead spoke to renowned draft expert and AFL talent ambassador Kevin Sheehan about 15 of SA’s best prospects for 2024.

BENNY BARRETT​

South Adelaide, 174cm midfielder/small forward

Benny Barrett testing at the state combine. Picture: Mark Brake/AFL Photos/via Getty Images

“He lit the game up when he played his first game at national championship level and it made you think ‘where’s he been?’ He was pretty good in a couple of games with his speed, he tested brilliantly in the 20m sprint at the state combine (finishing first). That speed separates him from many of the others and Port will have a decision to make there as a Next Generation Academy prospect.”

NED BOWMAN​

Norwood, 186cm forward

Norwood and St Peter’s College draft prospect Ned Bowman. Picture: Tom Huntley

“He’s got versatility to play at both ends of the ground. He’s not fully developed physically but he’s got a touch of class. He had three goals in a game at national level and might play off half-back. He would be a project player but there’s clear indications he’s got AFL potential with his combination of speed and endurance. You’d expect to see him go somewhere.”

■ ROME BURGOYNE​

Woodville-West Torrens/Port Adelaide, 182cm half-back

Port Adelaide father-son prospect Rome Burgoyne. Picture: Cory Sutton

“He finished the year well. It doesn’t do any harm to see (brother) Jase doing well at Port Adelaide. He was very good in a final. He’s a different type of player and athlete to Jase, but he’s still got the traits of being able to find the footy and use it very, very well. You’d be surprised if Port doesn’t take him (as a father-son selection).”

■ BEN CAMPOREALE​

Glenelg, 186cm inside midfielder
“He hasn’t done a lot wrong in the last three years. They’re rangy boys, the pair of them (Camporeale twins). He’s a really competitive beast who can play half-back or win the contested ball in the midfield. He does all the fundamentals well and doesn’t fumble it. His kicking will get better in a full-time environment. His hands are terrific. He had a great game at the MCG last year as a 17-year-old then had a terrific year this year. The bid will come, we just don’t know when because there’s sometimes a bit of cat and mouse with that.”

■ LUCAS CAMPOREALE​

Glenelg, 184cm wingman

Ben and Lucas Camporeale with their dad, Scott. Picture: Keryn Stevens

“The wing is a real specialist role these days where you have to have discipline to play wide, be the outlet and work your backside off, and I think he’s got every bit of that. He’s a good user of the ball on his left foot. He’s a different type to his brother but they might complement each other pretty well. His ball-winning ability to get over in the right spots is a trait you need in every team. Again, we don’t know where the bid comes, but Carlton will be looking forward to getting both the brothers into their footy club.”

■ ANGUS CLARKE​

Glenelg, 189cm defender

Glenelg’s Angus Clarke. Picture: Cory Sutton

“You want your defenders to be composed and make few mistakes. That’s his profile. He’s very relaxed, intercepts well, uses it well. I know clubs have warmed to him given his story as a very committed kid to get down (from Mount Gambier) to train and play. Clubs just see this tremendous growth and improvement in him when he gets in a full-time environment. He was fantastic in the 2km time trial at the national combine (finishing third). He’s a lovely size to be a third or fourth defender.”

■ ALEX DODSON​

Sturt, 203cm ruckman

Alex Dodson at the national draft combine. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

“He’s no doubt the leading ruck prospect. Where he’ll go, it’s really hard to know each year with ruckman and it depends how much clubs prioritise the ruck position as an immediate need. I’d think he’s a first-round choice. Given basketball occupied him a fair bit, he’s got so much development still in him, yet he was still fantastic this year, getting All-Australian honours. He’s competitive, mobile, a great size and can win the ball. He’s got a bit of Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

in him. He just needs time to develop physically to compete against the bigger bodies.”

■ SID DRAPER​

South Adelaide, 182cm midfielder

South Adelaide’s Sid Draper. Picture: Corey Sutton/SANFL

“He’s the most ready to run player from SA. Despite some setbacks this year with injury, he’s built his resilience and been able to overcome that and still had back-to-back All-Australian years. Very few kids do that. He’s capable of playing right at the start of next year. He’s super professional, a great young leader and has got some X-factor out the centre with his speed and ability to change lanes, and step through. He gets separation and opens the game up, like a Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

. He’s a contender to go in the top half a dozen.”

PHOENIX HARGRAVE​

South Adelaide, 181cm inside midfielder

South Adelaide draft prospect Phoenix Hargrave. Picture: Cory Sutton

“He’s had a pretty solid two years. As a bottom-ager, he won the MVP in the SANFL under-18 comp and this year he played some senior footy. He’s done enough to be a chance to get through and has given himself a great foundation.”

TOM MCKAY​

Glenelg, 191cm defender
“He’s a lightly framed boy … so it’s an investment into your future. He’s a one-touch player. You’d like him to get to 194cm to play that third defender type role. He had some great moments in the championship, was pretty composed, used it well, is an intercept marker. He’s one that would be attracting a fair bit of interest.”

JACOB MOLIER​

Sturt, 201cm ruckman

Sturt’s Jacob Molier at the state draft combine. Picture: Mark Brake/AFL Photos/via Getty Images

“He tested really well for speed (at the state combine) and he’s grown a lot in the past 12 months. He was 195cm or 196cm 12 months ago. He’s tall, he’s quick, he was sharing the ruckwork with Alex Dodson so he’s probably a bit underexposed because Dodson was getting the main role. Is there enough to go with at the moment or does a club wait until the mid-year draft? Some would be scrambling back to have a look at vision of him playing after the way he tested.”

JACOB NEWTON​

Norwood, 178cm midfielder/small forward

Norwood’s Jacob Newton. Picture: Cory Sutton

“He was pretty solid at national level then outstanding at club level. He has ability to adapt, playing a small forward role quite well at the nationals, then dominating in midfield roles back at Norwood.”

■ CHARLIE NICHOLLS​

Central District, 197cm key position player

Central District's Charlie Nicholls. Picture: Cory Sutton

“I like him, not just because of his size and marking, but because of his versatility too. He’s quick, he tested well (at the national combine), so he maybe he could be a tall defender or tall forward. You saw indications at national level of his potential and had dominant games back at club level. He’s got some real AFL traits.”

TYLER WELSH​

Woodville-West Torrens/Crows, 191cm forward

Tyler Welsh playing in the SANFL for Adelaide. Picture: Peter Argent

“He’s almost had the advantage of getting his first year out of the way by playing most of his games with the Crows in the SANFL. When he slipped back to under-18 SANFL footy, he absolutely dominated. We’ve seen that on a couple of occasions at national level. He had a promising development year and over the three-year period he’s done plenty to suggest he’ll have an impact at AFL level. I imagine the bid will come fairly late but that might be the biggest gift the Crows get. I think he’s got some enormous talent. He’s got speed off the mark that makes him hard to match up on, he’s strong and he’s got natural talent as a forward, being able to find the goals, like his father (ex-Crows, North Melbourne and Western Bulldogs sharpshooter Scott Welsh

Scott Welsh

Age

45

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.9

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

2.6

1star

K

2.2

1star

HB

0.4

1star

M

1.2

2star

T

0.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

). He’ll need to work on his consistency but that’ll come with experience.”

CHARLIE WEST​

Woodville-West Torrens, 194cm forward

Charlie West with his grandpa, ex-AFL chief executive Wayne Jackson. Picture: RoyVPhotography

“He tested super well (at the national combine), which will give him a hell of a chance because of his speed and size. Some of the marks he took – and we only saw glimpses at national level – were pretty impressive. We’ll have to wait to see how it unfolds because it’s a pretty strong draft.”



Originally published as Draft guru Kevin Sheehan runs his eye over 15 of South Australia’s best AFL prospects for 2024

 

[Danog]

Hotton is one of the few players in the draft with electric pace. Combine it with his agility, ball-winning ability, leap, hands, goal-kicking nous, creativity and slipperiness. He's a must-have for me.

I've mentioned my concerns, in addition to injury, but there's no denying the raw talent. Hopefully our coaches can fix his deficiencies (and running style) while he's still young and impressionable.

I wouldn't be using a pick earlier than 13 on him (if we somehow end up with it). Think we'll have to use 18 if we want him.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

So much upside in Hotton, I know he's coming off an ACL but I'd be happy to grab him. ​

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could be the best player in the draft​

Matthew Lloyd believes one draft slider could land up being the best player out of this year’s crop.
Sandringham Dragons’ mid-forward Taj Hotton tore his ACL earlier in the year, which is expected to see him slide down the order.

But Lloyd says Hotton, who he coaches at Haileybury, could be the best player out of this year’s draft.

“One to watch is Taj Hotton,” Lloyd said on Wide World of Sports.
“He is from Haileybury and did his ACL mid-season, but I think he’s a top five draft pick.
“Whoever selects him could may well get the best player in the draft.”

The slider who Matthew Lloyd believes could land up being the best player in the draft - 3AW Wide World of Sports

Matthew Lloyd delivers his draft analysis and one player to keep an out for.

omny.fm

Commentator...hotton's a lovely user of the ball...hahaha most kicks and handball deliveries were ugly!
Soft outside player...canna break a tackle...never laid a tackle...can take a mark/run, that's it!
No Lloyd he's not a top 5 draft pick! Can do better!

 

[Groupie_]

cant wait to watch the draft in 4k for $1 and circle jerk on here

 

[tigs2010]

cant wait to watch the draft in 4k for $1 and circle jerk on here

BF will be broken on night 1.

 

[Groupie_]

BF will be broken on night 1.

its broken now , imagine on draft night

 

[Danog]

Wouldn't mind a discord watch party