Game Day 2024 Draftmatmas live celebration and melt thread

[Sir_Loin]

There is no way Smillie would have gotten past Saints who are desperate for mids.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Nah he’s good but they had him at 1 in their rankings

Carlton were never going to get Lalor or FOS so I don’t know what his crying into his wheeties about

Smillie maybe but they have Cripps. Get a grip

But did they have him at #1? Or when they knew they were on camera, and knew that Lalor and FOS were going 1-2, is it then they wanted everyone to know … including Jagga … that they rated him #1?

If it was Lalor-Jagga then they’d have said FOS was their #1, guaranteed.


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[fargothegreat]

Lalor pick 1

WHEN Richmond's recruiting team gathered at Blairgowrie two weeks before the Telstra AFL Draft to confirm its draft order, the Tigers' contingent had a huge decision to make.

Sam Lalor had become their favourite player in the 2024 draft pool – a big, strong, fending-off, powerful midfielder with a physical streak – but his place as the Tigers' No.1 pick still had to be settled. Thinking it was one thing, deciding it another.

They had been weighing him up against Finn O'Sullivan, the midfielder with the fast feet, overhead marking ability and exciting VFL performance late in the year when he auditioned for the Tigers.

They left the mid-week venture on Victoria's Mornington Peninsula with Lalor locked in, ready to make him the club's first top draft selection since Brett Deledio in 2004.

But that was only the first of many big decisions the Tigers had to make as they ruled the first round, using six first-round selections, executing the biggest trade of the draft and walking out with some of the highest-projection players in the draft crop.

Smillie pick 7

Smillie's drafting by Richmond had looked to be one of the top-10 certainties. But if he hadn't have gone at the Tigers' pick No.7, he likely would have gotten through to their next two picks, past St Kilda and Melbourne's selections. However, Richmond wasn't prepared to take that risk – or more accurately, risk another club swooping on one of St Kilda's picks and taking Smillie – and took the 195cm ball-winner at seven.

Hotton and Faull

Lindsay was also right in the frame for Richmond if he was available, while they also strongly considered Allan. While on the clock with their first of two picks in the teens, the Tigers were fielding multiple offers; North Melbourne's future first-rounder (with Harry Armstrong and Matt Whitlock still available for the Roos), St Kilda's first-rounder (as the Saints eyed Berry), a Gold Coast future first-round pick (with the Suns having interest in Taj Hotton, Berry and more) and also a big pick swaps offer from Sydney.

The Swans put forward their two first-rounders this year, plus their future first-rounder, in exchange for the Tigers' pick 12 and two later first-rounders. But the Tigers, knowing the high interest in Hotton in the few picks after them, grabbed the Sandringham Dragon first, before bidding on Kako and taking tall forward Jonty Faull. Faull and Berry were among the players in Sydney's sights, and the Tigers didn't think Faull would make it to their later hand of selections.

Trainor and Armstrong

Richmond, during this period, had taken a breath. But they had to be mindful of a batch of similar clubs having the next group of picks, starting with their own pick at No.21. It was for this reason the Tigers selected Luke Trainor next, knowing Sydney's interest in him with the following pick.

Geelong had floated interest in Richmond's selection, while the Bombers also checked in to see if there was any chance of a move. But the Tigers weren't shifting.

If the Tigers had taken Jesse Dattoli, who was also under high consideration, the Swans would have grabbed Trainor. But Sydney had ranked the small forward Dattoli ahead of the taller Trainor and was glad he was available to them, having already tried to get in earlier to secure him.

Richmond also knew Harry Armstrong was unlikely to be taken by Sydney, so opted to take Trainor first and hope Armstrong got through to their next pick at No.23, which eventuated.

North Melbourne, who had spent more time on the phone than a receptionist, had changed tack at this point. The Roos' offer of a future first-rounder had shifted, with the Kangaroos wanting something decent in return if they did indeed trade out their first pick for 2025.

Armstrong had been on their radar, while Matt Whitlock also remained on the board.

Pick 27
The Swans mulled over picking Shanahan at No.26, having had a gap between Faull and Trainor and their next group of talls, but instead opted for high-flying half-forward Ned Bowman.

Then, with the last pick of the opening night and Matt Whitlock still available, the Roos took one last swing at a deal and finally found a taker. The Tigers, after already securing six first-round picks, were the perfect trading partner.

North Melbourne swapped a future first-round pick for the Tigers' pick 27 and Richmond's future second-round pick, and then selected Whitlock. If the Tigers had held that pick and the Swans opted for Shanahan over Bowman, Bowman was considered a likely selection for the Tigers to add a point of difference to their forward mix.

Sims

The wheeling and non-dealing continued on day two, as Richmond put up its first pick of the night for sale. North looked again – this time to reunite the Whitlock twins at Arden Street – and offered two future second-round picks as part of a deal, but the Tigers' held to take Thomas Sims.

I'm super sceptical of this article, because according to this every club got the player they wanted at their pick.

They're always going to tell the media that after the fact.

 

[sportshow]

nah slid cos hes a bit of a flog

i reckon Buddy was said to have 'slid' to 4/5 or whatever he was because of character too didn't he .... hopefully similar outcome!

 

[sportshow]

I'm super sceptical of this article, because according to this every club got the player they wanted at their pick.

They're always going to tell the media that after the fact.

"We were really spewing as we really wanted Langford but when he unfortunately went before our pick we had to settle on Smillie"

#he'lldo

 

[GoTigers2015]

AFL rules meant we couldn't trade back pick 11(14) to Freo's pick (17). Otherwise could have traded pick 14 for pick 17 + 30 and still got Faull ahead of Sydney.

 

[Sir_Loin]

But did they have him at #1? Or when they knew they were on camera, and knew that Lalor and FOS were going 1-2, is it then they wanted everyone to know … including Jagga … that they rated him #1?

If it was Lalor-Jagga then they’d have said FOS was their #1, guaranteed.


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Too much thought process to do that they definitely rated him 1

 

[Sir_Loin]

I'm super sceptical of this article, because according to this every club got the player they wanted at their pick.

They're always going to tell the media that after the fact.

It’s such a shite article wasn’t even worth reading

 

[Sir_Loin]

i reckon Buddy was said to have 'slid' to 4/5 or whatever he was because of character too didn't he .... hopefully similar outcome!

We wanted roughie

 

[Coach_Required]

Sounds like we had massive intel on what the Swans were wanting to do all night. Wonder who the leak was at the Swans?

Also, Smillie wasn't sliding to our next pick, as the article said there was a real possibility that another club would have traded up for that pick so taking him at 7 was a wise move. So, if you honestly think he was going to be available you are a tad naive.

 

[tigs2010]

First of all he said likely, not would. And secondly he said the risk was too great that someone would swoop in for Saints 2nd pick to pinch Smillie. Which given how many 1st round pick offers were being thrown about must've been a real chance.

Also he's making shit up.

Says Norf offered 2 x 2nds for Sims pick when they're not allowed under the rules lol

 

[Sir_Loin]

i reckon Buddy was said to have 'slid' to 4/5 or whatever he was because of character too didn't he .... hopefully similar outcome!

The population of Melbourne grew exponentially over the period he played for the hawks

 

[Sir_Loin]

Also he's making shit up.

Says Norf offered 2 x 2nds for Sims pick when they're not allowed under the rules lol

 

[sabso]

This seems like the "all the good players wanted to go to Richmond" draft.

Our 8 guys won big but

• FOS wanted to go to Richmond
• Langford wanted to go to Richmond
• Smith probably wanted to go to Richmond
• Murphy Reid wanted to go to Richmond
• Hannaford wanted to go to Richmond
• Matt Whitlock probably wanted to go to Richmond rather than being the pig in a poke
• Jack Ough wanted to go to Richmond
• Noah Yze wanted to go to Richmond
• Passed pick 85 wanted to go to Richmond

Blair said the selection wasn't based on the fact the players were mates, bullshit. There's hardly a better way to get a group of recruits through basic training.

 

[Sir_Loin]

This seems like the "all the good players wanted to go to Richmond" draft.

Our 8 guys won big but

• FOS wanted to go to Richmond
• Langford wanted to go to Richmond
• Smith probably wanted to go to Richmond
• Murphy Reid wanted to go to Richmond
• Hannaford wanted to go to Richmond
• Matt Whitlock probably wanted to go to Richmond rather than being the pig in a poke
• Jack Ough wanted to go to Richmond
• Noah Yze wanted to go to Richmond
• Passed pick 85 wanted to go to Richmond

Blair said the selection wasn't based on the fact the players were mates, bullshit. There's hardly a better way to get a group of recruits through basic training.

Outside of Fred Rodriguez the best name in the comp is Jack Ough

 

[Sir_Loin]

Seriously what were his parents thinking

 

[sabso]

Outside of Fred Rodriguez the best name in the comp is Jack Ough

Rex would've retired straight away if he had to commentate a game involving Jack Ough.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Rex would've retired straight away if he had to commentate a game involving Jack Ough.

He’d have had a heart attack if was peak Rex

 

[Coach_Required]

How desperate did North sound in that article though?

North: "Can we have your next pick for our future 1st"?

Other teams: "No"

North: "Pretty please"

Other teams: "No"

Seems like North actually thought they would be getting multiple offers for a future pick after deciding to keep pick 2. Wonder if they would have moved pick 2 on if they knew no one was interested in their future first the way it went.

Also, there is no way Carlton would have still picked Smith if Lalor or FOS dropped to them. Interest in North pick 2 dropped right off when teams realised we were taking Lalor at 1.

 

[tigs2010]

Seriously what were his parents thinking

Fred's?

 

[Sir_Loin]

How desperate did North sound in that article though?

North: "Can we have your next pick for our future 1st"?

Other teams: "No"

North: "Pretty please"

Other teams: "No"

Seems like North actually thought they would be getting multiple offers for a future pick after deciding to keep pick 2. Wonder if they would have moved pick 2 on if they knew no one was interested in their future first the way it went.

I think everyone knows doing business with north is like not much fun as they usually like to get bent over so they just wait

 

[Sir_Loin]

Fred's?

I think it’s Fredrico which is possibly the most awesome name since Juan Pablo Angel.

I agree I should have been more precise in my post. I was referring to Jack Ough.

 

[tiger_tough]

AFL rules meant we couldn't trade back pick 11(14) to Freo's pick (17). Otherwise could have traded pick 14 for pick 17 + 30 and still got Faull ahead of Sydney.

what? Why?

 

[tiger_tough]

It’s such a shite article wasn’t even worth reading

You can't read though, campaigner

 

[Sir_Loin]

You can't read though, campaigner

I can read enough to know that

A you’re a campaigner and
B you have NFI what you’re talking about