List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

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buttermuffs said:
We should get Gallop, Gillett, and Gilder.

Play them all and call them the Three Gees.


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Shame that they can't all be Cat-B Rookies - then they would be the B Gees!


(yes I will see myself out)
 

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Nunez said:
Then I don't think he was.

And plus, BRAB took his measurements and he's actually 4'9 and has a drug problem. Barely draftable.
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Sorry, that's too obvious that he just replaced Levi's measurements with his own, people will figure that out.
 
Hey briztoon
Mitch Cleary is suggesting we might go after Gabriel Stumpf. Wondered whether you had thoughts about that? Went exceptionally at the combine. But seems to be a late or rookie pick to most people who pay attention to the under-agers and draft kids. Ridiculous speed and a good jump. Kicked plenty. Pinch hits as a ruck. Seems like a high upside but I'm only going on the online information available. Cheers https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-draft-analysis-brisbane-lions-156278/
 
the rookie said:
Hey briztoon
Mitch Cleary is suggesting we might go after Gabriel Stumpf. Wondered whether you had thoughts about that? Went exceptionally at the combine. But seems to be a late or rookie pick to most people who pay attention to the under-agers and draft kids. Ridiculous speed and a good jump. Kicked plenty. Pinch hits as a ruck. Seems like a high upside but I'm only going on the online information available. Cheers https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-draft-analysis-brisbane-lions-156278/
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Not Mitch Cleary though? No idea who Mitch Keating is, might have a really good handle on the draft I suppose.

Anyway pretty sure gallop will be our final pick.
 

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the rookie said:
Hey briztoon
Mitch Cleary is suggesting we might go after Gabriel Stumpf. Wondered whether you had thoughts about that? Went exceptionally at the combine. But seems to be a late or rookie pick to most people who pay attention to the under-agers and draft kids. Ridiculous speed and a good jump. Kicked plenty. Pinch hits as a ruck. Seems like a high upside but I'm only going on the online information available. Cheers https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-draft-analysis-brisbane-lions-156278/
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Article was written by Mitch Keating. Cleary is the 7 news chief afl reporter. Two different people.

From my reading of the article, Keating is picking a player that suits a possible need, which is different than us actually being linked to the player. Keating also mentioned we might have to trade back in to the draft to pick up such a player. I can't see us trading back in to this years draft, but you never know.

No idea what we're going to do with our later live picks this year. One looks like it will be used on Sam Day as a SSP. Unless there's a major KPP slider at our third pick, where ever that ends up (pick 66+), I expect us to pick one of our academy talls.
 
briztoon said:
Article was written by Mitch Keating. Cleary is the 7 news chief afl reporter. Two different people.

From my reading of the article, Keating is picking a player that suits a possible need, which is different than us actually being linked to the player. Keating also mentioned we might have to trade back in to the draft to pick up such a player. I can't see us trading back in to this years draft, but you never know.

No idea what we're going to do with our later live picks this year. One looks like it will be used on Sam Day as a SSP. Unless there's a major KPP slider at our third pick, where ever that ends up (pick 66+), I expect us to pick one of our academy talls.
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Just wondering Briztoon what you reckon we will do with our pick 27. When Ashcroft gets selected pick 27 becomes valuable. Do you think we might try and get a 2nd round pick in 2025 plus a later 2024 pick? Also how many list spots do we have available for 2024? It’s seems are running out of spots? Which academy tall do you reckon will get the nod? It looks like we have some developable prospects
 
Royboy1961 said:
Just wondering Briztoon what you reckon we will do with our pick 27. When Ashcroft gets selected pick 27 becomes valuable. Do you think we might try and get a 2nd round pick in 2025 plus a later 2024 pick? Also how many list spots do we have available for 2024? It’s seems are running out of spots? Which academy tall do you reckon will get the nod? It looks like we have some developable prospects
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Only 4 spots available: 32 primary list and 8 rookies including 2 cat B so that’s 40 and you can only have 44. So Levi, Marshall and one other (maybe Gallop) plus Sam Day as a DFA after draft and that’s our list done.
 
Royboy1961 said:
Just wondering Briztoon what you reckon we will do with our pick 27. When Ashcroft gets selected pick 27 becomes valuable. Do you think we might try and get a 2nd round pick in 2025 plus a later 2024 pick? Also how many list spots do we have available for 2024? It’s seems are running out of spots? Which academy tall do you reckon will get the nod? It looks like we have some developable prospects
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Pretty sure we’ll trade 27. Not sure if we’ll need a points upgrade or not on it. Would like a break even or small points upgrade on it, plus a future 3rd round pick.

No idea if we’ll take a third pick or who we might look at. We definitely need a young KPP imo.
 
Pns_blister said:
I’m hearing North have offered 2 and a future first for pick 6 and 11. Huge if true. Tigs would have to take that. Also means Levi would slide to 3 at a minimum.
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Outrageous they're offering that imo. Pick 2 is quite valuable and they're giving up a future first which could be a top 3 pick too.

Richmond really making out like bandits....also shows how much west coast cost themselves for pick 3.
 

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Levi Ashcroft was happy to pose for photos and celebrate the success of his “best mate” after this year’s AFL Grand Final.

Older brother Will not only collected a premiership medal with the Brisbane Lions but also won the Norm Smith Medal as best on ground.

Levi watched the game alongside parents Marcus and Rebecca in the MCG stands, before the family got the opportunity to join Will in the winning rooms — and on the ground — post-game.

“That’s what you want to be doing — holding up that premiership cup one day,” Levi said.

“I had a photo with Will and the premiership cup but I didn’t want to touch it or grab it because I wanted to get one myself one day. That’s why I’m doing all the work behind the scenes now and for the rest of the pre-season, to try and get to that moment.”

It’s a glimpse into the mindset and inner drive of Levi, who is set to join his older brother as a father-son selection for the Lions in November’s national draft.

This is a young man who turns 18 in December but has never touched alcohol and has no intention of getting on the birthday beers.

“I’m not really interested in that sort of stuff and the party life,” Levi said.

“I’d rather focus on spending time with my family … and being professional.”

At the start of the year, Levi wrote down a list of goals.

Some items atop of that list included winning his own premiership with the Sandringham Dragons in the Coates Talent League, helping Vic Metro to victory in the under-18 national championships and winning a school football title with Brighton Grammar in the APS competition.

By season’s end, he had ticked off all three.

“It was a successful year for myself and for the teams, which was pretty cool,” Levi said.

‘PROVEN WINNER’​

Sandringham Dragons coach Rob Harding describes Levi as a “big moments” player and a “proven winner”.

In the Dragons’ Grand Final triumph in September, Levi finished as the top-ranked player on the ground with 183 SuperCoach points.

His day at Ikon Park included 28 disposals, eight marks, seven inside-50s and three classy goals.

“I love the big moments,” Levi said.

“If you’re a footballer and don’t want to be in those big moments, then I don’t really know why you’d be playing because that’s why I love to play.

“Look at what Will did in his finals series. I’ve learned so much from what he does in those big moments. It’s just about being able to come back to all the work you’ve done to set yourself up to perform well in those moments and having the confidence to know that you’ve got what it takes.”

Levi became the first player to win three premierships in the Coates Talent League, having also saluted with the Dragons in 2022 and 2023.

The first of the three-peat came alongside Will, when Levi was still 15.

“I really, really wanted to get that third one,” Levi said.

“I knew no one had ever done that as an individual and it had been a while since there had been a three-peat for a team. So I really set myself at the start of the year to go for that.”

LEADING FROM THE FRONT​

Teammates — including fellow first-round draft prospect Luke Trainor — describe Levi as “a great leader”.

Harding — a former Essendon assistant coach — says his best trait is that he is “incredibly unselfish”.

“The danger, particularly in national championships games and under-18 football, is that everyone plays for themselves a little bit,” Harding said.

“Levi’s the complete opposite. He makes everyone around him better.”

Levi served as a co-captain of the Dragons this year on the back of spending a summer with two of the AFL’s finest skippers.

He trained with the Lions for six weeks last pre-season, under the guidance of co-captains Harris Andrews and Lachie Neale.

“For me to learn off some of those guys was amazing,” he said.

“They’re now a premiership team and two premiership captains.

“I learnt so much from what they do, not only for themselves and their game, but what they do for everyone else. They’re always seeking team first.

“I wasn’t even at the club yet and they were trying to help me out, giving me things to work on, helping me with my leadership or my game or what I can do to better myself off the field. They’re always thinking about other people.”

Levi took a similar approach with his own game this year, despite being one of the youngest players in all the teams that he played for.

“I just want to be able to help them (teammates) with the knowledge that I have and to be able to lead them on the field as well with actions,” he said.

ABLETT-ESQUE​

Levi spent the first 12 years of his life living in Queensland.

His father — three-time Brisbane Lions premiership player Marcus — served as an assistant coach and then football manager for the Gold Coast Suns between 2008 and 2017.

The Suns’ biggest marquee signing for their inaugural AFL season in 2011 was Gary Ablett Jr, who soon became a favourite for a young Levi.

“He was my idol when I was younger,” Levi said of Ablett.

“I was always around him and his excellence. I’ve modelled my game off him since I was a little boy running around at the Suns.

“He just did it all.”

Much like Ablett, Levi can also ‘do it all’.

Along with the leadership traits, he is a dynamic ball-winner through the midfield who has clean hands, high footy IQ, is a strong mark and can push forward and kick classy goals from all angles.

While Levi primarily played as a midfielder this year, he has also shown great ability across half-forward and averaged 9.3 score involvements and 1.3 goals from nine matches for the Dragons.

Given the Lions’ incredible onball strength — with players like Ashcroft, Neale, Josh Dunkley and Hugh McCluggage — half-forward is where Levi might have to start his AFL career.

“It’s going to be tough going to play in the midfield, but I know I can start at half forward and play a few different positions,” he said.

“Wherever they need me, I’m happy to play. But I’d love to be playing in that midfield alongside some of those great players.

“I’m always up for a challenge.”

MAKE ME NO. 1​

Greater Western Sydney chose not to bid on Will Ashcroft with the No. 1 pick in the 2022 national draft.

The Giants instead selected key forward Aaron Cadman outright, leaving North Melbourne to bid on Will at No.2.

Brisbane expects a bid to come on Levi within the first five selections in this year’s draft, but whether one comes from Richmond at No. 1 remains to be seen.

“I’d love to be the No. 1 pick,” Levi said.

“I’m sure most people want to be the best player in the draft or to be called out at No.1. But in the circumstances, there’s been a few instances over the years where some of the best players haven’t been called out at No. 1 because they’re father-sons or Academy players. So that’s not the end of the world for me. I’m just looking forward to getting to Brisbane and getting started.”

Levi missed the draft combine — where he planned to chat with Tigers recruiters — due to post-season shoulder surgery.

But there will be conversations held with Richmond in lead-up to the draft, as the club weighs up whether to make a bid.

As for the shoulder, Levi is back on the exercise bike and is due to resume running in coming weeks.

“I won’t be missing any footy,” Levi said.

“I’ll be back for next year, which is what really matters in the end.”

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Levi Ashcroft was happy to pose for photos and celebrate the success of his “best mate” after this year’s AFL Grand Final.

Older brother Will not only collected a premiership medal with the Brisbane Lions but also won the Norm Smith Medal as best on ground.

Levi watched the game alongside parents Marcus and Rebecca in the MCG stands, before the family got the opportunity to join Will in the winning rooms — and on the ground — post-game.

“That’s what you want to be doing — holding up that premiership cup one day,” Levi said.

“I had a photo with Will and the premiership cup but I didn’t want to touch it or grab it because I wanted to get one myself one day. That’s why I’m doing all the work behind the scenes now and for the rest of the pre-season, to try and get to that moment.”

It’s a glimpse into the mindset and inner drive of Levi, who is set to join his older brother as a father-son selection for the Lions in November’s national draft.

This is a young man who turns 18 in December but has never touched alcohol and has no intention of getting on the birthday beers.

“I’m not really interested in that sort of stuff and the party life,” Levi said.

“I’d rather focus on spending time with my family … and being professional.”

At the start of the year, Levi wrote down a list of goals.

Some items atop of that list included winning his own premiership with the Sandringham Dragons in the Coates Talent League, helping Vic Metro to victory in the under-18 national championships and winning a school football title with Brighton Grammar in the APS competition.

By season’s end, he had ticked off all three.

“It was a successful year for myself and for the teams, which was pretty cool,” Levi said.

‘PROVEN WINNER’​

Sandringham Dragons coach Rob Harding describes Levi as a “big moments” player and a “proven winner”.

In the Dragons’ Grand Final triumph in September, Levi finished as the top-ranked player on the ground with 183 SuperCoach points.

His day at Ikon Park included 28 disposals, eight marks, seven inside-50s and three classy goals.

“I love the big moments,” Levi said.

“If you’re a footballer and don’t want to be in those big moments, then I don’t really know why you’d be playing because that’s why I love to play.

“Look at what Will did in his finals series. I’ve learned so much from what he does in those big moments. It’s just about being able to come back to all the work you’ve done to set yourself up to perform well in those moments and having the confidence to know that you’ve got what it takes.”

Levi became the first player to win three premierships in the Coates Talent League, having also saluted with the Dragons in 2022 and 2023.

The first of the three-peat came alongside Will, when Levi was still 15.

“I really, really wanted to get that third one,” Levi said.

“I knew no one had ever done that as an individual and it had been a while since there had been a three-peat for a team. So I really set myself at the start of the year to go for that.”

LEADING FROM THE FRONT​

Teammates — including fellow first-round draft prospect Luke Trainor — describe Levi as “a great leader”.

Harding — a former Essendon assistant coach — says his best trait is that he is “incredibly unselfish”.

“The danger, particularly in national championships games and under-18 football, is that everyone plays for themselves a little bit,” Harding said.

“Levi’s the complete opposite. He makes everyone around him better.”

Levi served as a co-captain of the Dragons this year on the back of spending a summer with two of the AFL’s finest skippers.

He trained with the Lions for six weeks last pre-season, under the guidance of co-captains Harris Andrews and Lachie Neale.

“For me to learn off some of those guys was amazing,” he said.

“They’re now a premiership team and two premiership captains.

“I learnt so much from what they do, not only for themselves and their game, but what they do for everyone else. They’re always seeking team first.

“I wasn’t even at the club yet and they were trying to help me out, giving me things to work on, helping me with my leadership or my game or what I can do to better myself off the field. They’re always thinking about other people.”

Levi took a similar approach with his own game this year, despite being one of the youngest players in all the teams that he played for.

“I just want to be able to help them (teammates) with the knowledge that I have and to be able to lead them on the field as well with actions,” he said.

ABLETT-ESQUE​

Levi spent the first 12 years of his life living in Queensland.

His father — three-time Brisbane Lions premiership player Marcus — served as an assistant coach and then football manager for the Gold Coast Suns between 2008 and 2017.

The Suns’ biggest marquee signing for their inaugural AFL season in 2011 was Gary Ablett Jr, who soon became a favourite for a young Levi.

“He was my idol when I was younger,” Levi said of Ablett.

“I was always around him and his excellence. I’ve modelled my game off him since I was a little boy running around at the Suns.

“He just did it all.”

Much like Ablett, Levi can also ‘do it all’.

Along with the leadership traits, he is a dynamic ball-winner through the midfield who has clean hands, high footy IQ, is a strong mark and can push forward and kick classy goals from all angles.

While Levi primarily played as a midfielder this year, he has also shown great ability across half-forward and averaged 9.3 score involvements and 1.3 goals from nine matches for the Dragons.

Given the Lions’ incredible onball strength — with players like Ashcroft, Neale, Josh Dunkley and Hugh McCluggage — half-forward is where Levi might have to start his AFL career.

“It’s going to be tough going to play in the midfield, but I know I can start at half forward and play a few different positions,” he said.

“Wherever they need me, I’m happy to play. But I’d love to be playing in that midfield alongside some of those great players.

“I’m always up for a challenge.”

MAKE ME NO. 1​

Greater Western Sydney chose not to bid on Will Ashcroft with the No. 1 pick in the 2022 national draft.

The Giants instead selected key forward Aaron Cadman outright, leaving North Melbourne to bid on Will at No.2.

Brisbane expects a bid to come on Levi within the first five selections in this year’s draft, but whether one comes from Richmond at No. 1 remains to be seen.

“I’d love to be the No. 1 pick,” Levi said.

“I’m sure most people want to be the best player in the draft or to be called out at No.1. But in the circumstances, there’s been a few instances over the years where some of the best players haven’t been called out at No. 1 because they’re father-sons or Academy players. So that’s not the end of the world for me. I’m just looking forward to getting to Brisbane and getting started.”

Levi missed the draft combine — where he planned to chat with Tigers recruiters — due to post-season shoulder surgery.

But there will be conversations held with Richmond in lead-up to the draft, as the club weighs up whether to make a bid.

As for the shoulder, Levi is back on the exercise bike and is due to resume running in coming weeks.

“I won’t be missing any footy,” Levi said.

“I’ll be back for next year, which is what really matters in the end.”

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God Levi and Will are massive high performance nerds lol.

DO NOT READ THIS POST AS AN ATTACK ON EITHER PLAYER - I'M VERY GLAD FOR US THAT THEY ARE LIKE THIS. But it is a bit funny!
 
Tom14 said:
God Levi and Will are massive high performance nerds lol.

DO NOT READ THIS POST AS AN ATTACK ON EITHER PLAYER - I'M VERY GLAD FOR US THAT THEY ARE LIKE THIS. But it is a bit funny!
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Why are you attacking Will and Levi, Thomas.

Every time I watch the post grand final presser I can see the fear in Fagans eyes as will speaks about getting back to work 10min after winning a flag.
 
McIvor said:
Only 4 spots available: 32 primary list and 8 rookies including 2 cat B so that’s 40 and you can only have 44. So Levi, Marshall and one other (maybe Gallop) plus Sam Day as a DFA after draft and that’s our list done.
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if they get through the draft, you can take any of the academy kids as a Cat B rookie.

Would think that Gallop and Gillet might get a bid, and depending where that is, Lions possibly won't match (or can't match after taking Ashcroft and Marshall).

Gilder, Richardson, Greenaway and McFayden are all very good prospects also.

Even with the academy system though, these kids probably just don't get enough exposure and if the Lions don't rate them, its harder for them to get picked up.

Greenaway played alot of VFL late in the year, which probably tells you that Lions or recruiters from interstate like the look of him, even though he didn't play Allies. He had a v good QAFL GF performance also.
 

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