Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup (3200m)

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POST CAULFIELD CUP RANKINGS

Likely going to see a lot of movement after the Geelong Cup and MV Cup in the bottom half but for now

1. BUCKAROO - Had severe doubts on him running out the 2400m last week but the way he ran out that Caulfield Cup I have a lot less doubt on him at Flemington. The absolute quality in the field with strong WFA form and a turn of foot. He doesn't even need to super strong over 2 miles to be winning this, just handle it well enough. Take DDS out of that CC and he wins by 5 with huge margins in behind and cops a big penalty so pretty well weighted with that in mind.

2. ABSURDE - Pushing him above JB with the latter's odds coming in a bit and Sayedaty Sedaty not really franking that Euro 3yo form. Happy to bank on a firmish track at this point which will suit him most of the Euros and we are still getting a reasonable price about him.

3. JAN BRUEGHEL - Slips down simply because his odds are getting in too short and the form around SS didn't look that strong on Saturday.

4. VAUBAN - Simply through a ton of failures with the locals he has continued to ladder up. Still not a huge fan of the horse and if its a firm track on the day ill be leaving him out of pretty much everything.

5. WARP SPEED - Dreadful in the CC but to be fair it is exactly what I was expecting on a wet track. A firm track and 3200m will be completely different but would want to be getting a decent price about him on the day to make up for getting beat 16L leading in.

6. LAND LEGEND - Couldn't possibly have him beating Buckaroo after the CC but still ran 3rd after getting worked up pre race so has to slot in around here.

7. FRANCESCO GUARDI - Ticking along reasonably well behind WFA horses running on ok over unsuitable trips. Has raced three times beyond 2000m in this country for two huge runs and the flop that was too bad to be true in the CC last year so can see him improving well at his next run and coming into First 4 contention. Needs to pass the ballot still but would want to be doing that if he is any chance anyway.

8. SAINT GEORGE - Likely gone based on last run but if he was to bounce back in the MV Cup he is at least one who has the ability to win at his best which a lot of these don't.

9. KINESIOLOGY - Hard to see him getting a run at this point but if Birdman is favourite in a Geelong Cup and a 30-40s chance then this guy is a watch bringing in better form.

10. OKITA SOUSHI - Simply a tail end of First 4s option but has finally found some sort of form in this country and will run out the 2 miles and if he could run 11th in the race last year I could easily see him picking up a spot or 2 this year.
 
Couple of interesting Maher runners from a Melbourne Cup point of view accepted in the Heatherlie.

Saint George - import with form around Tower of London last time he was seen. Jamie Kah booked.

Future History - $101 some places seems big, was on an upward spiral this time last year which saw him start $18 in the Cup. Forget the winter where he isn't suited on wet. Another year with Maher aiming him up is a positive.

Loft is also there but suggest he is in the chair.

Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race
 
Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race
Any chance of also starting in the Caulfield Cup?

I notice SB don’t have a market for the Cups double after getting cleaned out last year.
 

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Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race

Yeah, one of Oz’s - Soulcombe and Emissary kicked off their cups campaign in it last year?
 
Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated
 
Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated

Expected one of Irish SL or the Long Distance, and didn’t expect it out here this year after failing vet/scan last year. 🤔
 
Same

Jan Brueghel at 80’s is intriguing it’s the lightweight 3yo type

Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.
 
Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.
WFA last three years?

2023 - Without A Fight
2022 - Gold Trip
2021 - Very Elleegant
 
Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.

There weren't any NH 3yos in the race last year and the year prior they were ****ed over at the weights which was the outlier. Still a proven formula
 

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WFA last three years?

2023 - Without A Fight
2022 - Gold Trip
2021 - Very Elleegant

Yes, I phrased/worded that wrong sorry - meant was 3 years of 3yo NH (V&D, CC, Rekindling), and they became all the rage; and the past 3 haven’t been. To be truthful I don’t know what I meant by outlier and that post was only an hour ago.
 
How good were the Northern Hemi 3YO years, went against CC in his year and paid for that… Had Marmelo for small fortune and thought I was home 300m out 🤣 there was a lameness issue (🙄) that came out a week beforehand. Classic stuff

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?
 
How good were the Northern Hemi 3YO years, went against CC in his year and paid for that… Had Marmelo for small fortune and thought I was home 300m out 🤣 there was a lameness issue (🙄) that came out a week beforehand. Classic stuff

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?

Reverted back last year to a much more reasonable weight scale more in line with previous years than the DL stitch up
 

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