Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup (3200m)

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Going through the noms and filtering out all the ones that have none and having a look at what's left

Absurde - Not quite going as well as last year but can run top 10 again
Adelaide River - Going shit. Gelded since but that seems desperate
Arrest - Has turned into a bog average horse
Birdman - Dreadful last start
Changingoftheguard - Fair first up. Need to see over 2400m+
Circle Of Fire - Decent stayer but unders and likely to get a bit too much weight
Coco Sun - SA form not typically good enough
Delius - Really good French 3yo. Too good to come out though especially being a Coolmore horse
Eliyass - Sydney Metrop horse with class and distance being big doubts for me
Fawkner Park - Q22 win a big outlier on performance so would want to see him back that up
Future History - Didn't think he was good enough last year so wont be with him this year
Grosvenor Square - Seems unlikely to come
Harbour Wind - Seems unlikely to come
Hipop De Loire - Would have it above all the other Ebor runners
Illinois - Too good to come
Jan Brueghel - Surely too good to come as well
Kinesiology - Second tier 3yo. First across the line in the Vinnie Roe beating Birdman by 10L+
Land Legend - Decent chance has been Waller'd
Magical Zoe - Probably my second choice of the Ebor runners so hard to get too enthused
Middle Earth - Dreadful last start. Been gelded seems a bit desperate again
Place Du Carrousel - One of my top picks for the Caulfield Cup so has to be up there somewhat in the rankings
Point King - MV Cup horse
Point Lonsdale - Going shit and failed the vets last year
Poptronic - Another one that looks a Metrop horse if it comes back well
Que Tempesta - Good return in the Heatherlie. Italian form is generally rubbish but its here and running well at least
Relentless Voyager - Third pick of the Ebor runners so not keen at the moment
Riff Rocket - Seems incredibly unlikely to be on a Cup prep
Royal Supremecy - Similar second rate 3yo to The Euphrates and Kinesiology
Saint George - Great Euro form. Great return. One of the top seeds
Sayedaty Sadaty - Not a bad 3yo taking on the better Euro 3yos but run in the Gordon Stakes didnt look like a 2 mile horse.
Sea King - 4th pick of the Ebor runners and thus has little to no chance for me
The Equator - Least impressive of the 3yos in the mix
The Euphrates - Crossed the line with Kinesiology a couple back so similar level. They're about a Valiant King level of 3yo
Vauban - Terrible odds for a horse who we have a decent idea of his level out here.
Warp Speed - Second rate Japanese stayer who is very similar levels to a horse like Breakup last year
Without a Fight - Couldn't possibly entertain off the prep
Zardozi - Dont think it will even end up here but 4yo mares returning not a type that interests me
 
Couple of interesting Maher runners from a Melbourne Cup point of view accepted in the Heatherlie.

Saint George - import with form around Tower of London last time he was seen. Jamie Kah booked.

Future History - $101 some places seems big, was on an upward spiral this time last year which saw him start $18 in the Cup. Forget the winter where he isn't suited on wet. Another year with Maher aiming him up is a positive.

Loft is also there but suggest he is in the chair.

Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race
 
Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race
Any chance of also starting in the Caulfield Cup?

I notice SB don’t have a market for the Cups double after getting cleaned out last year.
 

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Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race

Yeah, one of Oz’s - Soulcombe and Emissary kicked off their cups campaign in it last year?
 
Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated
 
Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated

Expected one of Irish SL or the Long Distance, and didn’t expect it out here this year after failing vet/scan last year. 🤔
 
Same

Jan Brueghel at 80’s is intriguing it’s the lightweight 3yo type

Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.
 
Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.
WFA last three years?

2023 - Without A Fight
2022 - Gold Trip
2021 - Very Elleegant
 
Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.

There weren't any NH 3yos in the race last year and the year prior they were ****ed over at the weights which was the outlier. Still a proven formula
 

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WFA last three years?

2023 - Without A Fight
2022 - Gold Trip
2021 - Very Elleegant

Yes, I phrased/worded that wrong sorry - meant was 3 years of 3yo NH (V&D, CC, Rekindling), and they became all the rage; and the past 3 haven’t been. To be truthful I don’t know what I meant by outlier and that post was only an hour ago.
 
How good were the Northern Hemi 3YO years, went against CC in his year and paid for that… Had Marmelo for small fortune and thought I was home 300m out 🤣 there was a lameness issue (🙄) that came out a week beforehand. Classic stuff

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?
 
How good were the Northern Hemi 3YO years, went against CC in his year and paid for that… Had Marmelo for small fortune and thought I was home 300m out 🤣 there was a lameness issue (🙄) that came out a week beforehand. Classic stuff

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?

Reverted back last year to a much more reasonable weight scale more in line with previous years than the DL stitch up
 

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