Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup (3200m)

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OCTOBER RANKINGS

1. SAINT GEORGE - The drop off for him seems ridiculous to me. An unlucky loss by 2L and everyone wants to be on him. An average 0.4L loss in the exact same sort of race and he is out the gate. Won't show near his best until he gets to the 2500-3200m range and expect he will be back to the top of the markets after the Bart Cummings.

2. WARP SPEED - Slides up a spot due to Place Du Carrousel shitting the bed.

3. JAN BRUEGHEL - Class Euro 3yo. I do have doubts on his tactical speed for Australian racing and is weighted up to his best for a horse with his record has to go in near the top. Won't be a betting prospect for me though unless we are getting in the $9-10 range on the day.

4. WARMONGER - D Day coming up in the Turnbull.

5. ABSURDE - Goes up a spot thanks to other flops.

6. PLACE DU CARROUSEL - Poor run first up but the track was complete shit so can forgive that run if she bounces back next time. Has to drop down the order though if she doesn't have the WFA class to off set the distance query.

7. SAYEDATY SEDATY - If you like Jan then you haver to have this guy in the mix I think. Run was fair behind him in the Gordon Stakes and will meet him 2.5kg better off for that day.

8. VAUBAN - Think he is too short and needs conditions to suit on the day which he probably wont get but needs to slot in here still.

9. COCO SUN - Think she has the upside to possibly elevate her level to what is required up in trip and she is already in the race with a light weight.

10. KINESIOLOGY - Just something outside the box who might have some upside. Fair 3yo form in Europe. Was joint favourite with Birdman in a race that we were watching to see how that horse would go and he was first across the line beating Birdman by 11 lengths but is 4x the price of that runner in markets.
 
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Take George off these power rankings and it is a one paced plodder. You meed some turn of foot to win a MC.
Didn’t look like it handled the wet.
 

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Didn’t look like it handled the wet.
Track is still a Good 4.

If a bit of spit on the track means it turns in a performance like that just put the screen up or take it back to the UK where it seems to go well.

Bates gave it a good ride as well from #19 and it had cover and every chance to run on.
 
None of them led them the whole way like it did. Rapt for my mate who has a small share in it, not for my MC bet George 🤔

I wouldn't have thought Just Fine wasn't as good as Almandin.

But as history shows, the race really isn't that good of a guide for the Melbourne Cup.
 
Track is still a Good 4.

If a bit of spit on the track means it turns in a performance like that just put the screen up or take it back to the UK where it seems to go well.

Bates gave it a good ride as well from #19 and it had cover and every chance to run on.
Track is a Soft 6. The SB app, if you’re going off that, has been cooked for weeks and shows every track as a Good 4.
 
Track is a Soft 6. The SB app, if you’re going off that, has been cooked for weeks and shows every track as a Good 4.
Yeah i was.

I want my money back Shitbet! 😏🤢
 
I wouldn't have thought Just Fine wasn't as good as Almandin.

But as history shows, the race really isn't that good of a guide for the Melbourne Cup.

Only saving grace for George is that relatively poor double record. Needed him to show more than he did given he’s borderline without attrition (if he progresses).
 

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We need a full Paris rundown of remaining horses… brutal examination of what’s left with no holding back.


Jugada doing his best.

Sounds like George won’t be progressing, doesn’t come as a surprise (Interpretation ran better and it’s got none). V King was a good run. Struggling to rate the locals now.
 
Jugada doing his best.

Sounds like George won’t be progressing, doesn’t come as a surprise (Interpretation ran better and it’s got none). V King was a good run. Struggling to rate the locals now.
Yeah no knock on Jugada at all. Had a couple of frothies before I wrote that. Really appreciate all the contributions on here this time of year.

Was reading through the 2023 thread the other day. Great stuff.
 

Just started to get serious about some proper study for the cup and it appears Jan Brueghel has lengths on the rest of the field. Granted the UK 3 year olds get a bit more weight after the wins of Rekindling 51.5 and Cross Counter 51 but neither horse had won a group 1 and were unbeaten yet won stronger cups than the likely 2024 edition.

Rekindling had 1 kg less than JB in the St Ledger and only ran 4th in St ledger.
The 54 kgs allotted to JB a St Ledger winner is a very winnable weight going into the race with a lot of superior form to Rekindling and CC.

The other big plus is Blue Stocking 2024 Arc winner won a Group 1 in the UK on the same day as JB won a group 3 over 2000 metres and JB ran over second quicker than Blue Stocking.

If he runs anywhere near his UK form he just wins.
 

Just started to get serious about some proper study for the cup and it appears Jan Brueghel has lengths on the rest of the field. Granted the UK 3 year olds get a bit more weight after the wins of Rekindling 51.5 and Cross Counter 51 but neither horse had won a group 1 and were unbeaten yet won stronger cups than the likely 2024 edition.

Rekindling had 1 kg less than JB in the St Ledger and only ran 4th in St ledger.
The 54 kgs allotted to JB a St Ledger winner is a very winnable weight going into the race with a lot of superior form to Rekindling and CC.

The other big plus is Blue Stocking 2024 Arc winner won a Group 1 in the UK on the same day as JB won a group 3 over 2000 metres and JB ran over second quicker than Blue Stocking.

If he runs anywhere near his UK form he just wins.

Obviously a quality horse but my biggest knock on him is that fact he lacks tactical speed and doesn't have a fast change up of gears which is far from ideal for Australian racing.

All three races since his debut he has been a short favourite in small fields and pumped along from a long way out and just out toughing them by a neck in all three races.

54kg is a lot for a 3yo as well. There were plenty on here that thought DL was put in take out in his year despite the weight
 
Current Rankings
  1. Via Sistina
  2. Jan Brueghel
  3. Point King
  4. Absurde
  5. Warp Speed
  6. Land Legend
  7. Buckaroo
What races have we got left over the next 4 weeks:
  • Herbert Power
  • Caufield Cup
  • Geelong Cup
  • MV Cup
  • Cox Plate
  • the time honoured Bendigo Cup
 
Current Rankings
  1. Via Sistina
  2. Jan Brueghel
  3. Point King
  4. Absurde
  5. Warp Speed
  6. Land Legend
  7. Buckaroo
What races have we got left over the next 4 weeks:
  • Herbert Power
  • Caufield Cup
  • Geelong Cup
  • MV Cup
  • Cox Plate
  • the time honoured Bendigo Cup

The chances of Via Sistina lining up would have to be pretty much zero and Buckaroo probably not that much more likely
 

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