Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[Jugada]

Couple of interesting Maher runners from a Melbourne Cup point of view accepted in the Heatherlie.

Saint George - import with form around Tower of London last time he was seen. Jamie Kah booked.

Future History - $101 some places seems big, was on an upward spiral this time last year which saw him start $18 in the Cup. Forget the winter where he isn't suited on wet. Another year with Maher aiming him up is a positive.

Loft is also there but suggest he is in the chair.

Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race

 

[pendlebury_10]

Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race

Any chance of also starting in the Caulfield Cup?

I notice SB don’t have a market for the Cups double after getting cleaned out last year.

 

[Jugada]

Any chance of also starting in the Caulfield Cup?

I notice SB don’t have a market for the Cups double after getting cleaned out last year.

Would think almost certainly so long as he comes up well this prep

 

[FFB1]

Saint George the one to watch. Was comfortably a better 3yo in Europe than Circle of Fire and Land Legend who we have seen perform out here and on the same sort of line as a horse like Tower of London. Would love to see a Delphi type run from him first up in this race

Yeah, one of Oz’s - Soulcombe and Emissary kicked off their cups campaign in it last year?

 

[Jugada]

Yeah, one of Oz’s - Soulcombe and Emissary kicked off their cups campaign in it last year?

Yep Soulcombe won it. Emissary actually won it the year before too before running 2nd in the Cup. Delphi went well the year before too. Not a bad prep starter for Cups horses lately

 

[Jugada]

Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated

Surely will be weighted out of it

 

[Jugada]

Surely will be weighted out of it

He is only a G2 winner and never placed at G1 level so will be interesting. Would imagine something similar to a Spanish Mission

 

[FFB1]

Tower of London not in any of the noms for the big British and Irish staying races is interesting. Unless he was injured which ive heard nothing about there aren't many reasons for him not to be nominated

Expected one of Irish SL or the Long Distance, and didn’t expect it out here this year after failing vet/scan last year.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Expected one of Irish SL or the Long Distance, and didn’t expect it out here this year after failing vet/scan last year.

Same

Jan Brueghel at 80’s is intriguing it’s the lightweight 3yo type

 

[FFB1]

Same

Jan Brueghel at 80’s is intriguing it’s the lightweight 3yo type

Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.

 

[cruskits]

Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.

WFA last three years?

2023 - Without A Fight
2022 - Gold Trip
2021 - Very Elleegant

 

[Jugada]

Know SFA about JB, but guess only had the 3 starts. 3yo NH were all the rage before WAF ruined that narrative last year (outlier?).

Re TOL there is zero hope of me taking any price after last years failed vets/scan. Like any of Welds they need to be on the plane before would entertain it.

There weren't any NH 3yos in the race last year and the year prior they were ****ed over at the weights which was the outlier. Still a proven formula

 

[FFB1]

WFA last three years?

2023 - Without A Fight
2022 - Gold Trip
2021 - Very Elleegant

Yes, I phrased/worded that wrong sorry - meant was 3 years of 3yo NH (V&D, CC, Rekindling), and they became all the rage; and the past 3 haven’t been. To be truthful I don’t know what I meant by outlier and that post was only an hour ago.

 

[FFB1]

There weren't any NH 3yos in the race last year and the year prior they were ****ed over at the weights which was the outlier. Still a proven formula

Yep true, Desert Hero almost was

 

[Jugada]

Yep true, Desert Hero almost was

Yeah Desert Hero and Tower of London himself would have been here super light if the vets cleared him.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

It’s pre-nom so taken the 80’s about JB

A O’Bs 3 yo hope

 

[cruskits]

How good were the Northern Hemi 3YO years, went against CC in his year and paid for that… Had Marmelo for small fortune and thought I was home 300m out there was a lameness issue () that came out a week beforehand. Classic stuff

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?

 

[FFB1]

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?

Yeah went from 4kg to 3kg, 55.5 to 56.5

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Yeah went from 4kg to 3kg, 55.5 to 56.5

To be fair that’s a weight they’d carry often if not higher

 

[Jugada]

How good were the Northern Hemi 3YO years, went against CC in his year and paid for that… Had Marmelo for small fortune and thought I was home 300m out there was a lameness issue () that came out a week beforehand. Classic stuff

Won’t the NH 3YO’s have to carry the new weights again this year if they run?

Reverted back last year to a much more reasonable weight scale more in line with previous years than the DL stitch up

 

[FFB1]

St George good enough/untested

 

[Play On Advantage]

Just hit a wall of horses. Looked to have more

 

[FFB1]

Other run to take out of that was the Italian (Q Tempesta), C Cup $101 still there 365, TAB 26.

 

[Jugada]

St George good enough/untested

More than good enough. That's your #1 seed now that you know it's come back so well