Mega Thread 2024 Media & Miscellaneous Thread

[Quazar]

Agreed on D&Q, was a good listen for the reasons you say.

Never tried The Age one for the Caro reasons. Would rather shave my nuts with a live alligator than listen to that ambulance chasing halfwit.

First Crack on Fox is OK-ish. The Fox Footy pod with the 3 young blokes is OK but as with most Melbourne stuff they have zero idea outside Vic. There's really nothing else. I'm sure there's Adelaide based content but as if that'd be worth a listen.

Something like Around the NFL for the AFL would be great and that's what the Fox Footy pod could be but fails dismally at covering the whole league.

quality

 

[Joao]

who are the 2 injured for North in the 'double injury blow' that the West is referring to?!

Well they play for North so probably these two guys.

 

[Quazar]

Well they play for North so probably these two guys.

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oh boy, pwhahahaha

 

[Van_Dyke]

Exactly. Most of them clearly don't even watch every game which I thought would be the least of the requirements.

100%. No doubt scoring is an issue, but I think the only way regress significantly is if our defense declines, which was literally a few points off the best for the season (over 22 games).

It's just lazy. They know they get paid either way and since nobody puts out a good analysis product, nobody even tries.

still remember Ralph saying on Fox during a pre game or something in 2020 about the rising star and how if not for the COVID changes to the scheduling etc that 'we' might not have seen much of Serong and how it'd helped him in the rising star. so shit

 

[Sully90]

the fact there's more good AFL Fantasy podcasts then actual AFL podcasts is great stuff

i've loved the pieces from the Age etc that have tried to 'narrow down' who can win the flag this year, and it ends up being 7 of the 8 sides who played finals last year with us being the only absence

My favourite takes are how recruiting Taranto and Hopper fix Richmond's defensive issues but recruiting Jackson doesn't address our scoring problem.

 

[Van_Dyke]

My favourite takes are how recruiting Taranto and Hopper fix Richmond's defensive issues but recruiting Jackson doesn't address our scoring problem.

i'm enjoying the analysis on the dogs forward line not considering how dire their forward pressure would be if they play all their talls, and the takes on Brisbane not even considering if it'll fix their transition defending which was a weak point last year (thinking about how much space Freddy had in our match against them so regularly...)

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

i'm enjoying the analysis on the dogs forward line not considering how dire their forward pressure would be if they play all their talls, and the takes on Brisbane not even considering if it'll fix their transition defending which was a weak point last year (thinking about how much space Freddy had in our match against them so regularly...)

I cant wait to see how that Dogs forwardline works, just feels like when the mids on top they are going to slaughter some shitty teams but when they play better teams or it comes to finals, the lack of groundball ability and pressure is going to completely **** em

 

[Sully90]

i'm enjoying the analysis on the dogs forward line not considering how dire their forward pressure would be if they play all their talls, and the takes on Brisbane not even considering if it'll fix their transition defending which was a weak point last year (thinking about how much space Freddy had in our match against them so regularly...)

I can't wait to beat all these teams by 100 points and finish the season 21-2 on the way to our maiden premiership (as per my ladder predictor).

 

[Van_Dyke]

I cant wait to see how that Dogs forwardline works, just feels like when the mids on top they are going to slaughter some shitty teams but when they play better teams or it comes to finals, they lack of groundball ability and pressure is going to completely * em

their match against Melbourne in week 1 is going to be a genuinely fascinating watch for both sides.

 

[One_Wing]

From The Notebook: 2023 Practice Matches - The Shinboner

Today’s topics: Fremantle’s marking forwards, Port Adelaide’s disconnect, taking time to learn about Essendon and the improvement of GWS and Adelaide.

theshinboner.com

 

[Wobbly Punt]

Does anyone listen to the Will Schofield one? Apparently it's quite good?

That's the Back Chat one I mentioned. I don't mind it to be honest, its good. But it's more a light take on things rather than a real look at what's what. Worth a listen though for sure.

 

[AstonSouffle]

But if that was your job? I think it's reasonable for a football journalist to have more than a surface understanding of each club.

Wasn't clear, I'm saying instead of getting two people to know every about all 18 clubs (and obviously failing at it).

Get a reporter via video chat to talk about their respective state's teams with genuine gusto, we'd all be better for it.

I do expect them to do a good job, but they obviously aren't. So perhaps there's another way to make it better rather than talking into the clouds like we do.

 

[Arcassius]

That's the Back Chat one I mentioned. I don't mind it to be honest, its good. But it's more a light take on things rather than a real look at what's what. Worth a listen though for sure.

Dan (the other guy on it) is a big basketball fan, especially US, so he's as unbiased as it comes great guy

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[Sully90]

From The Notebook: 2023 Practice Matches - The Shinboner

Today’s topics: Fremantle’s marking forwards, Port Adelaide’s disconnect, taking time to learn about Essendon and the improvement of GWS and Adelaide.

theshinboner.com

While the podcast space is lacking, in written form we get heaps of positive Freo articles. Shinboner, MongrelPunt, CodeSports, The Roar all give us our dues.

 

[gaskin]

 

[SupermanCapes]

Hahah, Robbo is such a drunk.

 

[Shadow Man]

Hahah, Robbo is such a drunk.

He's a snappernose, love's the sound of his own voice!

 

[Yeti]

Glad he also refers to him as Andrew Baeshaw

 

[oldgoat]

On another complainy sort of note, it's incredible how many podcasts' analysis of us has been "struggle to score, 7th to 10th". The amount of leeway these journalists are able to give to the weaknesses of Richmond, Carlton, Brisbane, Collingwood, Bulldogs, but then take us to task on ours is infuriating.

Its an opportunity to get ahead in the tipping comps!
I can practise my smug!
Top Four!
Yokai!

 

[oldgoat]

Lewis and Brown have a grasp...
but underestimating Jackson.. and no awareness of OMera, Darcy and Treacy?
This is going to be fun!
Top Four!
Yokai!

 

[Joao]

It always amazes me that people that have NFI don't know they have NFI. Robbo is an idiot and speaks with the confidence of a sage.

 

[Jezzitizle]

Fair that pundits aren’t tipping us for the top four, we have big questions on our forward line.

Jackson was average last year, Fyfe was average last year when fit, Treacy is from a rookie draft and hasn’t done anything yet and Amiss is a kid. Tabs injury prone and form was mixed last year. Walters best is probably behind him. I love switta and shoota but it’s unlikely they have a lot more goals in them. Freddy may go to the next level but again it’s to be seen.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m expecting improvement across the board, but our forward line being decent is far from certain.

Not only that, the Cats are still strong and brought in some young talent, the Pies added some good players, the Swans should have the same natural growth we expect from our young players but they finished second last year, and Brissie had some excellent pick ups in the offseason.

That’s not even talking about all the other teams who might improve.

That’s fine though, time to let the footy do the talking.

 

[Joao]

Fair that pundits aren’t tipping us for the top four, we have big questions on our forward line.

Jackson was average last year, Fyfe was average last year when fit, Treacy is from a rookie draft and hasn’t done anything yet and Amiss is a kid. Tabs injury prone and form was mixed last year. Walters best is probably behind him. I love switta and shoota but it’s unlikely they have a lot more goals in them. Freddy may go to the next level but again it’s to be seen.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m expecting improvement across the board, but our forward line being decent is far from certain.

Not only that, the Cats are still strong and brought in some young talent, the Pies added some good players, the Swans should have the same natural growth we expect from our young players but they finished second last year, and Brissie had some excellent pick up in the offseason.

That’s not even talking about all the other teams who might improve.

That’s fine though, time to let the footy do the talking.

I agree with this. I think a lot of fans get annoyed at the inconsistency of the reasoning though. Whatever improvement you might think 3 young players can do for Geelong, compare that with improvement from the umpteen young players at Freo or Sydney, for example. Not to mention that neither of those sides have to contend with losing one of the goat leaders.

Then you'll hear someone pump up Geelong's tyres then say Richmond is too old (I literally heard this yesterday).

Its why I think it is really hard to take any pre-season prediction seriously. Not because people don't know anything, its that most stuff you need to know to do it right is unknowable.

 

[ignoramus]

I think a lot of fans get annoyed at the inconsistency of the reasoning though.

For me it's the use of clichés in lieu of analytical thought. Lewis in that clip says asks, "Where are the goals coming from?" and then lists proper names (Lobb, Schultz, etc.), rather than scoring from stoppages, from turnovers and from kick-ins. Robbo says Fyfe can't kick straight, but isn't going to get down to differentiating accuracy from set shots versus general play, etc.

Brown is the exception. He can mostly be relied upon to make some acute observations. But even then, when it comes to ladder prediction, they all had Freo in the exact same range: bottom half of the 8. So you wonder what the point was, and then you remember that the whole thing is contrived for entertainment purposes. They need someone to spout some clichéd crap like Fyfe can't kick straight so that there can be a heated discussion.

In the end, what is annoying is not what Robbo, etc. say, but the fact that there is virtually no available alternative to that type of "analysis". The closest thing I've found is the Shinboner's blog, but it's largely North Melbourne focused.

 

[Jezzitizle]

For me it's the use of clichés in lieu of analytical thought. Lewis in that clip says asks, "Where are the goals coming from?" and then lists proper names (Lobb, Schultz, etc.), rather than scoring from stoppages, from turnovers and from kick-ins. Robbo says Fyfe can't kick straight, but isn't going to get down to differentiating accuracy from set shots versus general play, etc.

Brown is the exception. He can mostly be relied upon to make some acute observations. But even then, when it comes to ladder prediction, they all had Freo in the exact same range: bottom half of the 8. So you wonder what the point was, and then you remember that the whole thing is contrived for entertainment purposes. They need someone to spout some clichéd crap like Fyfe can't kick straight so that there can be a heated discussion.

In the end, what is annoying is not what Robbo, etc. say, but the fact that there is virtually no available alternative to that type of "analysis". The closest thing I've found is the Shinboner's blog, but it's largely North Melbourne focused.

They are doing what we are doing - trying to project performances based on insufficient information, and mostly on what happened last year.

There’s been months of each team training to try to improve, nobody knows who has prepared the best. Nobody knows how list changes will impact teams.

We think Freo will be strong based on general trends for young sides that are talented and well coached, but 95% of what we hear is how well our team is doing. I’m of course our opinion on how we will go will be high.

There are probably 10 teams who think they are a shot at a flag this year.