MRP / Trib. 2024 - MRO Chook Lotto - Carlton Tribunal News & Reports

[Aphrodite]

 

[mochacinolatte]

I would just appeal to annoy the AFL. Surely the momentum of Higgins running fwd constributed to the fact he fell face first.

 

[jj1978]

You know why.

Jones doesn’t play for Carlton.

He only got a 'low' grading because he once did. If he never had played for us there never would of been a charge.

 

[jj1978]

They should appeal.

I would.. we have 2 weeks till the next game so it's not as though it's going to impact Owies prep and mindset too much. I'd suspect most this week are in heavy recovery and rest.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

1. It's a terrible decision - both relative to other similar tackles and absolutely (like what's the guy supposed to do - not tackle at all?)
2. Piss off the AFL - get the media to highlight the inconsistency - not just with the Jones' decision, but countless others - even the Charlie Cameron

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Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

' good character' let off was a scam... but noting the afl media is largely controlled by the afl.
3. Graded as "careless conduct with medium impact and high contact" How?
a. how was it careless? Owies gave evidence, that was not challenged, that he controlled the take down to limit the impact....that is the opposite of careless.
b. how can it be medium impact when the guy gets up, plays on immediately without any ill effect and not even taken from the field for a concussion protocol test?
c. high contact - it was not high contact - nowhere near it - it was a text book tackle. end of story...



That is not high contact.



Higgins has put his right elbow on the ground to buffer the impact - as we all would - he has some control clearly. The head flop is his doing...



Up immediately. Owies is awarded the free ffs.

Did we use a 1st year out of uni lawyer here?

 

[Bundy Bear Bogan]

Wonder if the tribunal are annoyed at their previous decisions being overturned by OFarrell thus wouldn't let him win here

 

[T2B_]

Not only was Higgo not hurt, he went on to kick the winning goal!

 

[Bundy Bear Bogan]

1. It's a terrible decision - both relative to other similar tackles and absolutely (like what's the guy supposed to do - not tackle at all?)
2. Piss off the AFL - get the media to highlight the inconsistency - not just with the Jones' decision, but countless others - even the Charlie Cameron ' good character' let off was a scam... but noting the afl media is largely controlled by the afl.
3. Graded as "careless conduct with medium impact and high contact" How?
a. how was it careless? Owies gave evidence, that was not challenged, that he controlled the take down to limit the impact....that is the opposite of careless.
b. how can it be medium impact when the guy gets up, plays on immediately without any ill effect and not even taken from the field for a concussion protocol test?
c. high contact - it was not high contact - nowhere near it - it was a text book tackle. end of story...

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That is not high contact.

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Higgins has put his right elbow on the ground to buffer the impact - as we all would - he has some control clearly. The head flop is his doing...

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Up immediately. Owies is awarded the free ffs.

Did we use a 1st year out of uni lawyer here?

Great work 4 flags. You deserve a payrise

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

i reckon the panel was just uber tired and cranky after the obscenely long Pickett case....

It happens to judges doing regular day time sittings....

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Great work 4 flags. You deserve a payrise

And no second motion/movement....

 

[tommy43]

Not only was Higgo not hurt, he went on to kick the winning goal!

If the incident was considered so terrible that Owies misses a final, shouldn't Higgins have gone off for 20 min concussion test? That happens, he isn't on the field to kick the winning goal. If AFL are fair dinkum, aints medicos should cop a fine and result should be overturned (tongue partially in cheek).

 

[Aphrodite]

O'Farrell clearly out of his depth. We all know it's Townshend who is the real brains behind our successful Tribunal appearances...sadly unavailable at this point.

Must admit I do have a laugh at these cases. Gleeson, Pane and a few others are all pretty good friends...and I can imagine the laughs that are had after some of these cases.

Totally wrong and how can you even say he is 'clearly out of his depth', far from it!

O'Farrell has had a 100% success rate overturning bans at the Tribunal including a downgrade until last night.


From July 2024:-

https://archive.md/vr7dQ

The leading Melbourne barrister might be the Blues’ secret weapon this September.
He certainly has been in the past two seasons, and he again was on Tuesday night.

It was O’Farrell who set suspended defender Jordan Boyd free to take on Greater Western Sydney on Saturday night, and it was O’Farrell who allowed Jack Martin to play in last year’s preliminary final.
The Carlton lawyer also had bans against Adam Cerra, Harry McKay and Nic Newman thrown out at the tribunal last year.

Carlton's results at the AFL tribunal over the past 24 months

2024 Jordan Boyd (one-match rough conduct ban) FREE TO PLAY - (O'Farrell)
2023 Jack Martin (two-match striking ban) DOWNGRADED TO ONE MATCH - (O'Farrell)
2023 Adam Cerra (one-match rough conduct ban) FREE TO PLAY (O'Farrell)
2023 Harry McKay (one-match striking ban) FREE TO PLAY - (O'Farrell)
2023 Nic Newman (one-match striking ban) FREE TO PLAY - (O'Farrell)
2022 Patrick Cripps (two-match rough conduct ban) FREE TO PLAY*, WON BROWNLOW MEDAL
* AFL Appeals Board hearing (represented by Townshend)



Townshend represented Cripps at the Appeals Board in 2022:-

AFL's appeals board hands down Cripps verdict following marathon hearing

The decision came after over four hours of deliberating

www.sen.com.au

 

[jj1978]

I reckon when Voss in his presser a few months back mentioned having a chat to the umpires about changes in interpretation something happened behind the scenes. Since then umpires have had selective vision when it's come to seeing things transpire against us on field. There also seems to be a lot of snarkiness towards us from the AFL in general this could coincide as well with comments regarding father and son proposed changes.

Almost get the feeling the new administration is trying to have a pi55-ing contest to show whose the big dog in town and doesn't like to be questioned. Even in the last presser the media tried to goad Voss regarding the obvious free kick shenanigans and he almost slipped and then had to bite his tongue and become more diplomatic.

Even with the all Australian side get the feeling 3 of those ins are in for at least show to not show bias, but won't get in the squad but gives the AFL a win win in saying Carlton been recognised, but there were better players in their positions. Even now the media is talking about seniority over whether it should be Cripps and Bont captain with all going Bont becuase he's had more AA's. Brownlow will be fun, we know there's no chance in hell Daicos won't get it and Cripps will have a few Diesel moments where he gets 0 votes for dominant games. Talking about Golden boy how come the AFL or coaches association hasn't even put in a please explain over McRae's rigging of coaches votes that are so blatantly obvious and that goes against the spirit of the award.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Carlton won't be challenging Matt Owies 1-game ban

 

[ferrisb]

APPEAL!

On what grounds aph ….afl stupidity??

Ummm, the vibe....?

#DennisDenutoAsSeenOnTV

 

[ferrisb]

I reckon when Voss in his presser a few months back mentioned having a chat to the umpires about changes in interpretation something happened behind the scenes. Since then umpires have had selective vision when it's come to seeing things transpire against us on field. There also seems to be a lot of snarkiness towards us from the AFL in general this could coincide as well with comments regarding father and son proposed changes.

Almost get the feeling the new administration is trying to have a pi55-ing contest to show whose the big dog in town and doesn't like to be questioned. Even in the last presser the media tried to goad Voss regarding the obvious free kick shenanigans and he almost slipped and then had to bite his tongue and become more diplomatic.

Even with the all Australian side get the feeling 3 of those ins are in for at least show to not show bias, but won't get in the squad but gives the AFL a win win in saying Carlton been recognised, but there were better players in their positions. Even now the media is talking about seniority over whether it should be Cripps and Bont captain with all going Bont becuase he's had more AA's. Brownlow will be fun, we know there's no chance in hell Daicos won't get it and Cripps will have a few Diesel moments where he gets 0 votes for dominant games. Talking about Golden boy how come the AFL or coaches association hasn't even put in a please explain over McRae's rigging of coaches votes that are so blatantly obvious and that goes against the spirit of the award.

Do you have your own tin mine to keep your hats in circulation?

 

[Aphrodite]

Ummm, the vibe....?

#DennisDenutoAsSeenOnTV

 

[Bell Ringer]

If the incident was considered so terrible that Owies misses a final, shouldn't Higgins have gone off for 20 min concussion test? That happens, he isn't on the field to kick the winning goal. If AFL are fair dinkum, aints medicos should cop a fine and result should be overturned (tongue partially in cheek).

Incredible really that this was classified as medium impact.

It literally had zero impact on Higgins.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Incredible really that this was classified as medium impact.

It literally had zero impact on Higgins.

disgraceful a better word...disappointed the Club is letting it go...

 

[Blue4Life]

Why did the club not appeal this?

 

[GoBlues!]

Ummm, the vibe....?

#DennisDenutoAsSeenOnTV

Can I say how disenchanted I am with the afl tribunal system…

 

[Stamos]

Why did the club not appeal this?

Because they wouldn't win.

 

[Wickzki]

Why did the club not appeal this?

Because they couldn't find a point of law that was crystal clear in Owies favor.

Rotten decision by the tribunal but the loopholes we've used have been shut off.

Should've used the "good bloke" defense before the decision was upheld.

 

[Wickzki]

Great work 4 flags. You deserve a payrise

Deserves 5 flags in 4 years.

 

[Blue4Life]

Because they wouldn't win.

Were the rules changed after the dangerfield tackel?

 

[GoBlues!]

Were the rules changed after the dangerfield tackel?

The rules are flexible and loose enough to allow the tribunal to determine the impact of a rough conduct act on the potential to harm an opponent, not just the actual harm… we’ve got no chance of down grading the impact.

Liam Jones was lucky because his sling action had the potential to do serious damage but was overlooked….when someone pointed out he didn’t play for Carlton anymore.