NCAA 2024 - NCAA - Week 5

[aussiedude]

Friday, September 27
Army @ Temple 9:30AM WatchESPN

Saturday, September 28
Virginia Tech @ Miami 9:30AM ESPN2 WatchESPN Kayo

College Gameday Live from Tuscaloosa, Alabama 11PM ESPN WatchESPN Kayo

Sunday, September 29
Kentucky @ Ole Miss 2AM ESPN2 WatchESPN Kayo
Oklahoma State @ Kansas State 2AM WatchESPN
Navy @ UAB 2AM WatchESPN
USF @ Tulane 2AM ESPNU
Western Kentucky @ Boston College 2AM ACC Network
Louisville @ Notre Dame 5:30AM Peacock/Fighting Irish TV
Arkansas Vs Texas A&M 5:30AM WatchESPN
Louisiana @ Wake Forest 5:30AM ACC Network
TCU @ Kansas 5:30AM WatchESPN
Georgia Southern @ Georgia State 5:30AM ESPNU
Oklahoma @ Auburn 5:30AM ESPN2 WatchESPN Kayo
North Carolina @ Duke 6AM WatchESPN
Mississippi State @ Texas 6:15AM SEC Network
Stanford @ Clemson 9AM ESPN2 WatchESPN Kayo
Georgia @ Alabama 9:30AM ESPN WatchESPN Kayo
Middle Tennessee @ Memphis 9:30AM ESPNU
South Alabama @ LSU 9:45AM SEC Network
Florida State @ SMU 10AM ACC Network
Cincinnati @ Texas Tech 10AM WatchESPN
Arizona @ Utah 12:15PM ESPN2 WatchESPN Kayo

• All times are in AEST
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• Notre Dame home games are live streamed for international fans on Fighting Irish TV

 

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Saturday, September 28
Washington @ Rutgers 10AM FOX

Sunday, September 29
Minnesota @ Michigan 2AM FOX
BYU @ Baylor 2AM FS1
Maryland @ Indiana 2AM BTN
Nebraska @ Purdue 2AM Peacock
Buffalo @ UConn 2AM CBSSN
Northern Illinois @ NC State 2AM CW
Wisconsin @ USC 5:30AM CBS
Colorado @ UCF 5:30AM FOX
Fresno State @ UNLV 5:30AM FS1
San Diego State @ Central Michigan 5:30AM CBSSN
Ohio State @ Michigan State 9AM Peacock
Iowa State @ Houston 9AM FS1
Illinois @ Penn State 9:30AM NBC
Washington State @ Boise State 12PM FS1
Air Force @ Wyoming 10AM CBSSN
Oregon @ UCLA 1PM FOX

 

[aussiedude]

Georgia had the bye and Texas played UL-M and Texas gained 10 more 1st place votes, Texas also took 8 coaches votes off Georgia. But Dawgs are still on top of the coaches poll.

 

[Big Unit 30]

Much more interesting slate this weekend imo

 

[Big Unit 30]

AP Top 25

RK	TEAM	REC	PTS	TREND
1	TEX(44)	4-0	1527	-
2	UGA(13)	3-0	1482	-
3	OSU(5)	3-0	1432	-
4	ALA	3-0	1328	-
5	TENN	4-0	1283	1
6	MISS	4-0	1269	1
7	MIA	4-0	1139	1
8	ORE	3-0	1073	1
9	PSU	3-0	1051	1
10	UTAH	4-0	1037	2
11	MIZ	4-0	1009	4
12	MICH	3-1	805	6
13	USC	2-1	690	2
14	LSU	3-1	637	2
15	LOU	3-0	553	4
16	ND	3-1	546	1
17	CLEM	2-1	540	4
18	ISU	3-0	530	2
19	ILL	4-0	458	5
20	OKST	3-1	388	6
21	OU	3-1	375	6
22	BYU	4-0	327	NR
23	KSU	3-1	168	10
24	TA&M	3-1	77	1
25	BOIS	2-1	69	NR

Others receiving votes: Washington State 67, Indiana 63, Boston College 55, UNLV 53, Pittsburgh 37, Nebraska 25, Iowa 24, James Madison 11, South Carolina 7, Liberty 4, UCF 3, Arkansas 3, SMU 2, Arizona 2, Navy 1
Dropped from rankings: Nebraska 22, Northern Illinois 23

 

[gaskin]

 

[aussiedude]

Today in conference realignment.
Gonzaga to the Pac-12 as a non football school
Utah State to the Pac-12
Tulane, Memphis, UTSA, USF all commit to staying in the AAC

Air Force being talked about for the AAC.
UNLV and San Jose state looking at their future both might be Pac-12 bound.

There was talk UNLV would of been in the first set of new Pac-12 teams announced a few weeks ago, but Nevada is the same school board so you need to take both or pay Nevada to not take them [like the UCLA/Cal situation]

 

[aussiedude]

Nicole wins the best Halloween costume

 

[gaskin]

"Commitments" aka more money.

 

[aussiedude]

"Commitments" aka more money.

Thats the NIL world we live in, its f**ked because its unregulated.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Today in conference realignment.
Gonzaga to the Pac-12 as a non football school
Utah State to the Pac-12
Tulane, Memphis, UTSA, USF all commit to staying in the AAC

Air Force being talked about for the AAC.
UNLV and San Jose state looking at their future both might be Pac-12 bound.

There was talk UNLV would of been in the first set of new Pac-12 teams announced a few weeks ago, but Nevada is the same school board so you need to take both or pay Nevada to not take them [like the UCLA/Cal situation]

Isn't Gonzaga just rumours?

The problem is, the Pac-12 doesn't want the shitty football schools, yet the shitty football schools are generally the stronger basketball schools, ie, New Mexico/Nevada.

The top 5 football schools would've been
1) Boise State
2) Fresno State
3) San Diego State
daylight
4) Utah State
5) Colorado State
6) Wyoming
7) Air Force
8) UNLV (But look to be building)
9) Nevada
10) New Mexico
11) San Jose State
12) Hawai'i

Yet, from a basketball perspective. It's
1) San Diego State
2) Nevada
daylight
3) Boise State
4) New Mexico
5) UNLV
daylight
6) Utah State
7) Colorado State
8) Wyoming
9) Fresno State
10) San Jose State
daylight
11) Air Force

We obviously need 1 more to even be a conference. And with Tulane/Memphis/UTSA saying no, it'll have to be MWC (Sorry, but the idea of USF sits wrong with me. I dont want to be involved in a conference which spits in the face of college tradition like the BigTen/ACC/Big XII and arguably SEC have become - At least SEC has remained regionally based......arguably).

Push for UNLV (Maybe that is an announcement for 5 weeks? Apparently, the NV Governer election is this year, current governor is UNLV alumni, while the ex-governor running is UNR alumni - So do it then and dont let it be a political issue)

Then i would go for 1 more (I'd rather 9 or 10 playing everyone once). I think New Mexico/Nevada from a sporting perspective are equal. But New Mexico is better from a tv market perspective.
Grab Gonzaga for basketball, and maybe get Saint Marys as well (Though, would they need an arena to replace the current gym?)

Boise State, San Diego State, Utah State, Colorado State, Washington State, Oregon State, UNLV, New Mexico and/or Nevada is a decent football conference and obviously the #5 in America. But add Gonzaga/Saint Marys too? The above is the top of the MWC and was already a 4-6 Bid league, that could easily maintain or even surpass that.

 

[aussiedude]

Isn't Gonzaga just rumours?

The problem is, the Pac-12 doesn't want the shitty football schools, yet the shitty football schools are generally the stronger basketball schools, ie, New Mexico/Nevada.

The top 5 football schools would've been
1) Boise State
2) Fresno State
3) San Diego State
daylight
4) Utah State
5) Colorado State
6) Wyoming
7) Air Force
8) UNLV (But look to be building)
9) Nevada
10) New Mexico
11) San Jose State
12) Hawai'i

Yet, from a basketball perspective. It's
1) San Diego State
2) Nevada
daylight
3) Boise State
4) New Mexico
5) UNLV
daylight
6) Utah State
7) Colorado State
8) Wyoming
9) Fresno State
10) San Jose State
daylight
11) Air Force

We obviously need 1 more to even be a conference. And with Tulane/Memphis/UTSA saying no, it'll have to be MWC (Sorry, but the idea of USF sits wrong with me. I dont want to be involved in a conference which spits in the face of college tradition like the BigTen/ACC/Big XII and arguably SEC have become - At least SEC has remained regionally based......arguably).

Push for UNLV (Maybe that is an announcement for 5 weeks? Apparently, the NV Governer election is this year, current governor is UNLV alumni, while the ex-governor running is UNR alumni - So do it then and dont let it be a political issue)

Then i would go for 1 more (I'd rather 9 or 10 playing everyone once). I think New Mexico/Nevada from a sporting perspective are equal. But New Mexico is better from a tv market perspective.
Grab Gonzaga for basketball, and maybe get Saint Marys as well (Though, would they need an arena to replace the current gym?)

Boise State, San Diego State, Utah State, Colorado State, Washington State, Oregon State, UNLV, New Mexico and/or Nevada is a decent football conference and obviously the #5 in America. But add Gonzaga/Saint Marys too? The above is the top of the MWC and was already a 4-6 Bid league, that could easily maintain or even surpass that.

It sounded Gonzaga is a done deal but not announced yet.

But now the Pac-12 are taking the MW to court over the contract when they need to pay for poaching teams.

 

[AJ_2000]

Georgia haven't lost a regular season game since 2020 .

49-2 recent record, with both losses to Alabama.

Probably the biggest college game in September that I can remember.

 

[aussiedude]

I feel kinda sad for thr UNLV kid. He is getting whacked from everywhere but also if it is a NIL thing it's his own making.

I hope he comes out and just says why. What promises were broken or what has caused him to walk away from the team if another school as contacted him.
But if another school has contacted him its a violation, but I guess there is no violation if a booster or NIL collective contacted him. Which just opens the black/grey marker NIL deals even more.

 

[aussiedude]

Georgia haven't lost a regular season game since 2020 .

49-2 recent record, with both losses to Alabama.

Probably the biggest college game in September that I can remember.

It's not as big as it would feel 12 months ago because of the new playoffs system. 2 loss teams will make it, before if you had 1 loss your season was on the edge now you are good till you get 2 or 3 if you are in the power 2

 

[gaskin]

I feel kinda sad for thr UNLV kid. He is getting whacked from everywhere but also if it is a NIL thing it's his own making.

I hope he comes out and just says why. What promises were broken or what has caused him to walk away from the team if another school as contacted him.
But if another school has contacted him its a violation, but I guess there is no violation if a booster or NIL collective contacted him. Which just opens the black/grey marker NIL deals even more.

It seems like it is all NIL. The is a rumour he told the coach he wants another $300k and was told no.

If this is true it lends a lot of credence to the NIL talk.

 

[aussiedude]

TCU had a issue being on the CW lastweek so the big12 said enjoy ESPN+ then.

 

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[aussiedude]

That changes my view. So I deleted a earlier post.
But there is also these





This is what you get in an unregulated market based on verbal agreements or non legally binding signed agreements

 

[gaskin]

Fair enough then on his account. But, if it was all verbal then he and his agent were morons to not get something in writing.

 

[Constantgin]

Promised 100k not paid when he brings it up they counter with 12k. I wouldn't be playing either.

If that happened at your workplace to you. You would be quitting then calling in sick for your notice period.

 

[AJ_2000]

Basically the same old system legalised, promises of cash that gets dramatically reduced. Atleast the players now have a way to move rather being stuck on a lie.

 

[Jatz]

Why are they not getting contracts signed?

It's not at all right but just taking a verbal agreement is incredibly naïve.

 

[aussiedude]

Why are they not getting contracts signed?

It's not at all right but just taking a verbal agreement is incredibly naïve.

Because there is no unions. And some are getting recruited on NIL deals from funds not officially linked with the school.

It's a black market. If you get ripped off who are you going to call. There is no oversight or real framework it's honor system and not everyone can be taken at their word.

Hopefully this leads to a players unions but doubt it. Stanford, ULCA and some others tried years ago and it fell apart when California passed a bill where players can be paid which lead to NIL once other states started to pass the same laws.

Even if there is a signed deal it might not hold up in court because this is unregulated and unchecked.

 

[aussiedude]

Something similar happened at Michigan State last year.

And now you have boosters talking to players to sit then enter the portal which is technically legal since it's not the schools doing it. But also no guarantee they will be held up once they enter the portal