Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

[The_Wookie]

New year. New me.

Cricket Australia believe their decision to shorten the Big Bash has been vindicated, with crowds at the halfway point of the tournament up 29 per cent on last year. Crowds across the first 20 games of this summer's BBL have averaged 17,473, compared with 13,530 in 2022-23.

BBL games reduction vindicated with crowds on the rise

Cricket Australia believe their decision to shorten the Big Bash has been vindicated, with crowds at the halfway...

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[The_Wookie]

Aus/Pak Test Series

The series was attended by 349,252 at an average of 29,104 across 12 match days.

The total aggregated audience for the series across all breaks, pregame coverage and matchplay sessions is expected the be more than 61 million. The average session had an average national audience across FTA and subscription tv/streaming of 1.004m over 36 sessions of test cricket. 20 different sessions (55%) had an average audience in excess of a million.

• 2nd Test, Day 4, Session 3 – 1.407m (est)
• 2nd Test, Day 3, Session 3 – 1.397m (est)
• 2nd Test, Day 2, Sesson 3 – 1.324m (est)
• 3rd Test, Day 1, Session 3 – 1.315m (est)

Test Cricket Lives! Attendances and TV Ratings v Pakistan 2023-2024 - Sports Industry AU

Test crickets much speculated future appears to be in good hands if the first series of the summer is anything to go by with record crowds, and excellent tv ratings, despite no Test lasting into the fifth day. The series was attended by 349,252 at an average of 29,104 across 12 match days. The...

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[BobbyMorri]

New year. New me.

Cricket Australia believe their decision to shorten the Big Bash has been vindicated, with crowds at the halfway point of the tournament up 29 per cent on last year. Crowds across the first 20 games of this summer's BBL have averaged 17,473, compared with 13,530 in 2022-23.

BBL games reduction vindicated with crowds on the rise

Cricket Australia believe their decision to shorten the Big Bash has been vindicated, with crowds at the halfway...

t.co

Still think they could get the crowds even higher.

More games in that peak season of X-mas and the first day back at work. Cut out the midweek night matches. Less night matches, more day or evening ones.

They would have to take a hit in TV ratings if they did that.

 

[Rob]

Still think they could get the crowds even higher.

More games in that peak season of X-mas and the first day back at work. Cut out the midweek night matches. Less night matches, more day or evening ones.

They would have to take a hit in TV ratings if they did that.

They could get bigger crowds by investing in better talent. It's incredible the crowds they do get given most of the best players aren't playing. Which then means more money for decent overseas players.

 

[BobbyMorri]

They could get bigger crowds by investing in better talent. It's incredible the crowds they do get given most of the best players aren't playing. Which then means more money for decent overseas players.

In a way, yeah. Perhaps private ownership is one way to build a club culture and difference, which is especially needed in Melbourne. But also bring about more money, to entice bigger names. Having the same state organisations running 2 clubs is not ideal.

The Boxing Day/ NY Test means they won't remove test cricket from this section of the calendar.

 

[BobbyMorri]

Punter not happy with the wicket at the showgrounds. On top of that, you had the debacle of Geelong earlier in the season. Launceston has never been a great pitch either.

These football venues, which are solely used for the BBL, might need to up their game a bit.

I can't see the Thunder moving from Sydney to Canberra just for the pitch though.

 

[Walshawk]

BBL crowds have been terrific post Christmas. Perhaps they push the whole thing back a week, although that would clash with the tennis and affect viewership.

 

[weewilly]

The Australian Open at Melbourne Park is going gang busters ATM with over 440,000 in attendance over the first 6 days and with 9 days still to go it should reach their hoped for million plus attendance overall.

 

[weewilly]

The Open total as of day 7 but without the official crowd for day 6 that has yet to be posted but you would assume it was over 80,000 and that would make the current total around the 680,000 mark which includes two days of over 90,000 and is well on the way to break the one million total mark easily with 8 days to still to be tallied up till the Open finishes next Sunday..

 

[BobbyMorri]

not great news. Really, APL couldn't run a lemonade stand, let alone a professional league.

 

[BobbyMorri]

The Open total as of day 7 but without the official crowd for day 6 that has yet to be posted but you would assume it was over 80,000 and that would make the current total around the 680,000 mark which includes two days of over 90,000 and is well on the way to break the one million total mark easily with 8 days to still to be tallied up till the Open finishes next Sunday..

Perhaps. Attendance should start to drop now, with a lack of singles action on the outside courts. This is John Cain Arena's last day IIRC

 

[weewilly]

Perhaps. Attendance should start to drop now, with a lack of singles action on the outside courts. This is John Cain Arena's last day IIRC

It is at about 750,000 as of today so with 7 days to go should pass the 1 million mark easily even as the crowds drop and don't forget 40% of fans attending don't attend the tennis matches at all and that is why they are getting the large crowds as families inc mine are taking their children and not necessary watching any live tennis on the courts.

I suspect for a lot of people have replaced the Royal Show as an event with the tennis.

 

[weewilly]

6562 at the BBL final at the Gold Coast last night is a shocker even worse when you consider one of the teams was from Brisbane!

 

[Teen Wolf]

BBL gets big crowds and sellouts during the school holidays, and small crowds outside of school holidays. After 13 seasons, that probably shouldn't be a shock.

 

[Rob]

BBL gets big crowds and sellouts during the school holidays, and small crowds outside of school holidays. After 13 seasons, that probably shouldn't be a shock.

I think it was more the short notice for the game and not many from Brisbane prepared to make the trip down on a Monday night.

CA treats the BBL like garbage, it shouldn't be surprised to see games where the public just give up.

 

[Teen Wolf]

I think it was more the short notice for the game and not many from Brisbane prepared to make the trip down on a Monday night.

CA treats the BBL like garbage, it shouldn't be surprised to see games where the public just give up.

There's no historical data to back up the notion that "Monday night" or "short notice" are factors. The evidence that the school holiday period has a huge impact on crowds is undeniable.

It's not surprising that your idea of "treating the BBL like garbage" just means: not reshuffling everything when a state chooses to be weird.

 

[Rob]

There's no historical data to back up the notion that "Monday night" or "short notice" are factors. The evidence that the school holiday period has a huge impact on crowds is undeniable.

It's not surprising that your idea of "treating the BBL like garbage" just means: not reshuffling everything when a state chooses to be weird.

No, it means (in this case) scheduling other games at the pointy end of the BBL, preventing teams using their own ground for home finals and removing the best players from competing teams.

If any other code did that, fans would rightfully be miffed.

 

[Teen Wolf]

No, it means (in this case) scheduling other games at the pointy end of the BBL, preventing teams using their own ground for home finals and removing the best players from competing teams.

If any other code did that, fans would rightfully be miffed.

Strange how the ground and players weren't an issue when the same team sold out the same venue a few days earlier (when it was, oh whaddya know, still school holidays in QLD).

Btw several leagues (cricket and other sports) force teams to play home finals on the road. But in this case it was Queensland Cricket who chose to make the Heat's main ground unavailable for the finals, not CA.

Domestic teams not having access to players with simultaneous representative commitments is also not unique to the BBL and cricket.

 

[weewilly]

BBL gets big crowds and sellouts during the school holidays, and small crowds outside of school holidays. After 13 seasons, that probably shouldn't be a shock.

Still pathetic considering the BBL is supposed to be the premier T20 comp in the nation backed by CA and it is flogged to death on Ch 7 and Fox Sports.
Apart from the novelty of the first few seasons it is now a second rate comp and the sporting public know it!

 

[BobbyMorri]

Still pathetic considering the BBL is supposed to be the premier T20 comp in the nation backed by CA and it is flogged to death on Ch 7 and Fox Sports.
Apart from the novelty of the first few seasons it is now a second rate comp and the sporting public know it!

ave. attendances and ratings has increased during the season.

Getting 40K to any game is no joke.

BBl finals crowds have always been soft. It is the time of the season. Don't think playing Brisbane at the Gold Coast midweek was a sound move either

 

[Teen Wolf]

Still pathetic considering the BBL is supposed to be the premier T20 comp in the nation backed by CA and it is flogged to death on Ch 7 and Fox Sports.
Apart from the novelty of the first few seasons it is now a second rate comp and the sporting public know it!

Hmm well the attendance averages for the first few seasons were 17.7k, 14.2k and 18.8k (31 to 35 games per season). Average attendance for this 40-game season is 20.9k (probably finishing on 21.4k after the final tonight), which is also higher than the all-time average.

Apart from the AFL, no Australian league in 2023 drew crowds of 25k+ with more regularity. NRL did it for about 15% of their games, BBL did it about 40% of the time.

 

[weewilly]

Hmm well the attendance averages for the first few seasons were 17.7k, 14.2k and 18.8k (31 to 35 games per season). Average attendance for this 40-game season is 20.9k (probably finishing on 21.4k after the final tonight), which is also higher than the all-time average.

Apart from the AFL, no Australian league in 2023 drew crowds of 25k+ with more regularity. NRL did it for about 15% of their games, BBL did it about 40% of the time.

Still pathetic as the BBL has very little competition during summer months and cricket is supposed to be our "national" sport!

 

[weewilly]

The Open needs about 55,000 to top the 1 million mark and should do that easily with still four days to go!

 

[Teen Wolf]

Still pathetic as the BBL has very little competition during summer months and cricket is supposed to be our "national" sport!

Translation: I'm upset about CA's January 26 stance, so I'm going to criticise cricket crowds in this country, even though the numbers don't support my spurious claims.

 

[BobbyMorri]

Still pathetic as the BBL has very little competition during summer months and cricket is supposed to be our "national" sport!

The Open needs about 55,000 to top the 1 million mark and should do that easily with still four days to go!

These 2 back to back seems like they are connected.

The Open is huge in Melbourne. It also sucks TV time away. The Tennis bet the cricket on Monday for example.

in saying that, I don't believe it is a significant factor for the lack of interest around finals. Others like School holidays, are more significant.