Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

[Bjo187]

You can take any one data set and make a case for winning or losing depending on which side you are on.

The only thing that really matters in the tv war is the revenue derived from it. Ratings are based on survey data and dont factor in out of home or commercial viewing (ie pubs). And anyone who thinks decisions on rights are derived from the publicly available data needs their head examined.

Well yeh exactly, I agree and that's the reason the afl typically get more tv money. The tv heavies know what gets more eyeballs and more of the types of eyeballs that you want, when they dig deeper into the data. I'm sure they don't fall for the trick of the nrl gets more viewers than the afl, coz they take into account game length, overlapping games, prime time slots, double/ triple counting of certain viewers etc, etc.

I found it funny straight after the afl finals and g.f wins in tv ratings that abdo came straight out to announce 'we got more viewers than the afl did across the year'. I can imagine Peter straight on the phone to him 'get out there and make an announcement, we need to control the narrative' .

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Aggregating averages has been done for at least a decade in media and sports governing bodies - including the AFL, NRL, and Cricket Australia. And even compared - I mean the NRL CEO literally went on record comparing it late last year.

To be fair The_Wookie you do overcook this statement a fair bit. Sports bodies go on record to say these things typically as a point of comparison for YOY growth within the sport, which is generally appropriate to the extent that the nature of a given broadcast tends to be similar YOY.

Explicit comparisons between the sports was only done by the NRL CEO as a form of propagandising, and makes little sense when he was trying to say that NRL is the most watch sport. I don't see Cricket Australia or AFL making these comparisons across sports.

I get that adding together averages is a more simple analysis mathematically but it should be patently obvious that it is not the best way to make comparisons between broadcasts that are so fundamental different to each other.

The reason that it's been done for a decade is that it's simply easy to do so mathematically and conceptually easy for the public to understand when communicating to a wide audience (such as in a newspaper or annual report). But we in this thread don't have to be a wide audience, and we can call out the biased motivations of sporting body CEOs.

 

[The_Wookie]

To be fair The_Wookie you do overcook this statement a fair bit. Sports bodies go on record to say these things typically as a point of comparison for YOY growth within the sport, which is generally appropriate to the extent that the nature of a given broadcast tends to be similar YOY.

Im not overcooking anything. Im telling you that aggregagating averages is done by sporting bodies and just because several people on Bigfooty dont like it, doesnt lessen that from being fact.

Also they clearly do compare with other sports as literally done by the NRL CEO.

Explicit comparisons between the sports was only done by the NRL CEO as a form of propagandising, and makes little sense when he was trying to say that NRL is the most watch sport. I don't see Cricket Australia or AFL making these comparisons across sports.

That doesnt mean its not happening either. Cricket used to do this every year - in fact Cricket reports are the only ones that used to this going back 20 years or so.

I get that adding together averages is a more simple analysis mathematically but it should be patently obvious that it is not the best way to make comparisons between broadcasts that are so fundamental different to each other.

I get that its not suited to the agenda of certain Bigfooty members. Given its the same 4 or 5 people and only fairly recently.

The reason that it's been done for a decade is that it's simply easy to do so mathematically and conceptually easy for the public to understand when communicating to a wide audience (such as in a newspaper or annual report). But we in this thread don't have to be a wide audience, and we can call out the biased motivations of sporting body CEOs.

Whereas I do have a wider audience than the half dozen contributers to this thread. And Ill go with the standard set everywhere else for a decade or so. And I could also call out the biased motivations of people on Bigfooty.

 

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[The_Wookie]

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