Training 2024 Preseason reports and discussion

[Colloquy]

At the rate players are dropping, we will win the spoon thanks to injuries. WTF is it in the water?

This years WC eagles the way they are dropping

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Frost, Scrimshaw, Sicily and Weddle is still a tall backline. Add in Phillips and that may be too tall

Out of those four only Sicily has the ability to stand the really big, talented key forwards.

Frost, Weddle and Scrimmers better suit s in second / third talls or even smalls in Frosts case.

Much rather give Phillips the role as the stopper on the likes of McKay, Hawkins, etc and let Sic do his thi g roaming free across half back

 

[Colloquy]

Seems to be backline players for some reason is there training routine different to other parts of the team.

 

[Pinoy Hawk]

31 players



The Hawks however will be without a few familiar faces for Friday's game, with Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

and Luke Breust

22

Luke Breust

Age

34

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

4.8

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

1.8

5star

(managed) missing the clash, alongside several injured Hawks including Will Day (foot) and Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

(illness).

For those unable to make the trip to Whitten Oval, the match will be broadcast live on Fox Footy, available on Kayo Sports and Foxtel.

You can stay up to date with all the action from the day across hawthornfc.com.au and HawthornFC on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook.

 

[Hodginator]

Seems like a pretty solid side.

 

[hawkman]

Isn't that just everyone who is fit?

 

[The hands of stone]

Anyone know what parking is like at whitten oval for the praccy game tomorrow, I’ve had a look on google maps and there seems to be a decent sized carpark right out the front of the oval but I’ve also read that it’s not accessible to the public. Anyone been or know anything?

There is plenty of street parking in walking distance , you might just have to drive around a bit

 

[Pinoy Hawk]

Isn't that just everyone who is fit?

Looks like it.

A few of them are listed to play in the VFL match.

 

[Flukey!]

Should I be surprised that Dear is playing?

 

[threesixpio]

Oh FFS

God

hawthorn defenders

 

[Mercy Seat]

Difficult to see how Phillips doesn't play the majority of matches for the year now.

It's a bit of a case of last man standing regarding our KPD stocks!

Shouldn't change anything. Don't think we were expecting to see much if any McCabe this year.

 

[Millsie69]

What's the go with Stephens?

 

[Millsie69]

Dogs' squads are interesting. Mixing senior players between the two matches.

Poor Box Hill players having to line up on the Bont lol

Pre-season Match Simulation squad locked in

Bulldogs fans will get their first glimpse of recruits Nick Coffield, James Harmes and Lachlan Bramble during the official match simulation tomorrow against the Hawks at Whitten Oval.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

 

[TDS7]

Looks like it.

A few of them are listed to play in the VFL match.

Interesting to see Illiro Smit and Philactides on our list. Could end up half decent after some time in the BHH program.

 

[Strattonsphere]

Out of those four only Sicily has the ability to stand the really big, talented key forwards.

Frost, Weddle and Scrimmers better suit s in second / third talls or even smalls in Frosts case.

Much rather give Phillips the role as the stopper on the likes of McKay, Hawkins, etc and let Sic do his thi g roaming free across half back

Well all the talk on Phillips is that he is an elite interceptor/ball reader and loves to turn defence into attack.

Could he play the Sicily role and leave Sic to man the KD post, win one on ones and still do his thing?

On Pixel 7 using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Buttonsticher]

All this discussion re pork rolls got me hankering for one. Went to the local Bakery where they where $7.20 a year ago now, $12. Didn't even kiss me first!

 

[Big Hotdog]

Well all the talk on Phillips is that he is an elite interceptor/ball reader and loves to turn defence into attack.

Could he play the Sicily role and leave Sic to man the KD post, win one on ones and still do his thing?

On Pixel 7 using BigFooty.com mobile app

Nope...he cant kick like the Sic which is where the pain is really brought.

 

[Big Hotdog]

All this discussion re pork rolls got me hankering for one. Went to the local Bakery where they where $7.20 a year ago now, $12. Didn't even kiss me first!

They wont be as good as the ones in Footascray.

 

[VandoHawk]

McCabe wasn’t going to play early but that’s incredibly frustrating for the kid. Was looking good.

 

[SSSSSS]

Seems to be backline players for some reason is there training routine different to other parts of the team.

Think our S&C team is doing the wrong type of wrestling.

 

[Brant]

Interesting to see Illiro Smit and Philactides on our list. Could end up half decent after some time in the BHH program.

Very excited about this.

Will be a jet!

 

[peetoo]

McCabe back problem might also preclude him from ramping up the core work too

 

[threesixpio]

Well all the talk on Phillips is that he is an elite interceptor/ball reader and loves to turn defence into attack.

Could he play the Sicily role and leave Sic to man the KD post, win one on ones and still do his thing?

On Pixel 7 using BigFooty.com mobile app

Yep. Could easily step into Sic’s shoes. Piece of cake

 

[The hands of stone]

Ok, I'm sick of writing this as people probably are of reading it. So one last time

- we have plenty of tall defending options despite a few injuries. This isnt really an issue as much as people seem to want it to be . We just need to get the mix of personal right , then apply decent downfield pressure .
Get that right and we are laughing as our defence looks so versatile and skilled in the air and ground
- Blanck is a good prospect , but he was never stopping the 'gorilla's' anyway without all around the ground help.
Not many clubs have the 6'5-6'7 monster hence why an average player like Ben Mckay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

got big bucks .

• injuries are annoying but DGB and Mcabe weren't best 22 . DGB has become Chris Langford since his injury . I really like DGB but seriously .
• very good AFL forwards exist at all clubs . If we fail in the pressure area all over the ground , they will kick goals on us . And any team for that matter .

The lack of 'tall' defenders just seems an easy default reaction . It may have been try a few years ago . Not now .

 

[Newmo89]

What's the go with Stephens?

Will ask Simmo at the press conference tomorrow post scratch match