Preview 2024 Round 2 Freo v Roos

[freo1997]

For who?

Walker for Worner is apples and oranges. We already have Clark and Aish running off half back. Walker needs a few more wafl minutes too imo.

Banners held up good enough so I would challenge him to provide the output Worner was. JOM fills banners spot. At the end of the day JOM will be b22 when available for now.

Draper and Voss for the other obvious outs.

 

[Rockmelon]

Didnt Schultz trip someone and only get a fine?

Who?

 

[The Feeder Club]

Walker for Worner is apples and oranges. We already have Clark and Aish running off half back. Walker needs a few more wafl minutes too imo.

Banners held up good enough so I would challenge him to provide the output Worner was. JOM fills banners spot. At the end of the day JOM will be b22 when available for now.

Draper and Voss for the other obvious outs.

Fair enough. You're saying it gets down to whether JOM (with a shuffle of positions) or Walker (with no shuffle) replaces Worner. I'd prefer Walker myself but see your point

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

Davies more as a KPD but Ryan is much better than both in that role still. I'll be shocked if they dont give Draper the nod after his preseason to be honest

You're as high on and as knowledgeable about Davies as anyone I've seen on the board, so a query I have. His draft profiles suggested him as an intercept type that brings it out of defence but struggles with one-on-one defending. By the end of the first season, however, he seemed to not really have that intercept game or be someone you'd be particularly confident about bringing the ball out of defence (at least at WAFL seniors level, he got a lot of the ball at WAFL reserves in his few games there), but the one-on-one defence had generally improved (Ben Sokol being probably his highlight scalp). However, he seemed to have issues against the big slow key fwds at WAFL level (Keitel had a game on him I believe).

The club at the very least have seen enough in him to give him the 2 year deal, so there's something there. So I guess my 2 part question:

1. Do you think he'll ever get that intercept game and/or be a reliable option to bring the ball out of defence at the highest level?
2. Do you think he is currently or can eventually be someone who you trust physically against an AFL key fwd?

 

[Ge3ks]

Who?

Dunno who he's talking about either. Must be a typo.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You're as high on and as knowledgeable about Davies as anyone I've seen on the board, so a query I have. His draft profiles suggested him as an intercept type that brings it out of defence but struggles with one-on-one defending. By the end of the first season, however, he seemed to not really have that intercept game or be someone you'd be particularly confident about bringing the ball out of defence (at least at WAFL seniors level, he got a lot of the ball at WAFL reserves in his few games there), but the one-on-one defence had generally improved (Ben Sokol being probably his highlight scalp). However, he seemed to have issues against the big slow key fwds at WAFL level (Keitel had a game on him I believe).

The club at the very least have seen enough in him to give him the 2 year deal, so there's something there. So I guess my 2 part question:

1. Do you think he'll ever get that intercept game and/or be a reliable option to bring the ball out of defence at the highest level?
2. Do you think he is currently or can eventually be someone who you trust physically against an AFL key fwd?

I to and fro on Davies at this stage to be honest. To specifically answer your questions first
1) I've never seen this intercept game his profile spoke of but we'll see how he goes this year I suppose. He COULD be a reliable option out of defence but we'd need to see experience play a large role in fixing his decision making. He is kind of laconic in decision making and is prone to a howler or two every game (1st year KPD though so not unexpected). His kicking I think his mechanically fine but is impacted by this decision making. As I think more, he will never be as good as Ryan, Chapman or Draper in this regard. He could be a KPD you trust to kick the ball and not **** it up but that's about it
2) I think because his best trait in his aggression and competitiveness, he could play on the 2nd KPD at AFL level with a few more preseasons under his belt, he will never be big enough to play on the number 1 KPFs.

Size hurt him last year, a few more preseasons should see that not be an issue. While it's not a big scalp these days, he was very good against Tabs in a preseason game

 

[FreoRicci]

Was listening to mark Duffield ..he mentioned Treacy tackle on mckenna..does he has anything worry about?

Was paid holding the ball. Clearly umpire didn’t see anything wrong with it

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Man, I would have loved to have Darcy this game to see what Amiss and Jackson can do against Corr and Pink. Would have be pretty fun to watch.

This game is simple, win it in the middle, win the game. They will attack at all costs and try to make it a shoot out. I watched a lot of the GWS/North game and GWS were in cruize control for a lot of the game but North seems as expected, fantastic talent in the middle that needs to play out of their skins to keep it out of a backline that's just not at the level.

Fit Pearce will be a perfect match-up with Larkey (just need to watch for the free-kicks) and losing our 2nd and 3rd best KPDs shouldnt hurt us this week. Duursma will need a good match-up, probably Ryan or Hughes

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You have to imagine there will almost certainly be a debutant this week between Draper, Voss and Simpson where you could feasibly fit any two of them in given the outs. Will probably just be the one though.

You could feasibly play JOM as the "third tall", he does play taller than he is. I imagine he could play similar to what Cox just did.

Draper, Walker, JOM the ins for the obvious 3 outs

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Picture this... a young defender makes the trip to Docklands as an emergency against North, gets a late call up to make his debut not as a defender but as a forward and kicks four goals to win the match.

I went over for that game and it turns out I was sitting right alongside his family.

 

[TheKanga]

Is Logue out for the entire season?

Excuse my intrusion but thought I'd answer.

Probably out until at least July.

 

[Eski3]

MRP findings are in. Walters got a fine, Fyfe with no case to answer. Johnson also got a fine for a rough conduct charge in the 4th (not sure what incident that was referring to)

 

[ignoramus]

He is kind of laconic in decision making

Don't make me call on Mrs Tony_Clifton

 

[ignoramus]

You could feasibly play JOM as the "third tall", he does play taller than he is.

Surely Banners steps into this role and JOM takes Banners' HF and wing minutes

 

[FreoGirl]

You have to imagine there will almost certainly be a debutant this week between Draper, Voss and Simpson where you could feasibly fit any two of them in given the outs. Will probably just be the one though.

You could feasibly play JOM as the "third tall", he does play taller than he is. I imagine he could play similar to what Cox just did.

Draper, Walker, JOM the ins for the obvious 3 outs

would love to see a 29 actually play a game for the first time since Pav

 

[FreoGirl]

MRP findings are in. Walters got a fine, Fyfe with no case to answer. Johnson also got a fine for a rough conduct charge in the 4th (not sure what incident that was referring to)

and the boy God from down the road got a fine for being dirty

 

[Joao]

Johnson is a thug. Oppo fans are going to hate him, especially if he turns out gun.

 

[FreoGirl]

Does Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

get another chance?

 

[Jezzitizle]

MRP findings are in. Walters got a fine, Fyfe with no case to answer. Johnson also got a fine for a rough conduct charge in the 4th (not sure what incident that was referring to)

Love that Johnson has a bit of mongrel in him.

Seems to be a trait they are encouraging in the mids, Serong doesn’t mind a bit of biff, Young won’t start it but won’t back down. But seeing Fyfe getting stuck in a bit on the weekend was new, and Brayshaw is the guy you want your daughter to marry, but even he showed glimpses late last year.

 

[go_the_dockers]

You have to imagine there will almost certainly be a debutant this week between Draper, Voss and Simpson where you could feasibly fit any two of them in given the outs. Will probably just be the one though.

You could feasibly play JOM as the "third tall", he does play taller than he is. I imagine he could play similar to what Cox just did.

Draper, Walker, JOM the ins for the obvious 3 outs

JOM as a 3rd tall is a stretch.

Frederick would be ok, but neither of them appear capable of bringing the ball to ground 2 v 1 like Walters can do.

Josh Draper as the 3rd tall (Ryan taking 2nd tall) may be ok. He would probably be shown up defensively, as it sounds like he is at WAFL level.


I can Voss coming in, and playing 3rd forward or a ruck at Jackson going forward. I think Voss is the better option, as we can't afford to lose the midfield battle, although Xerri is not an A Grader.

It will be interesting to see how we structure up, as it will be a battle between maintaining structure and getting quality on the field.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

JOM as a 3rd tall is a stretch.

Frederick would be ok, but neither of them appear capable of bringing the ball to ground 2 v 1 like Walters can do.

Josh Draper as the 3rd tall (Ryan taking 2nd tall) may be ok. He would probably be shown up defensively, as it sounds like he is at WAFL level.


I can Voss coming in, and playing 3rd forward or a ruck at Jackson going forward. I think Voss is the better option, as we can't afford to lose the midfield battle, although Xerri is not an A Grader.

It will be interesting to see how we structure up, as it will be a battle between maintaining structure and getting quality on the field.

I'd agree it's a stretch but their opinion of Voss and Tabs appears low enough to play an underdone Cox up front instead...

They might go to Voss or Tabs but I wouldnt rule out JOM playing that role instead

 

[Mogumber]

Banfield was playing defence in the last quarter. Could throw him back again.
Pearce, Ryan, Young, Clark, Walker, Banfield.
Unfortunately Young goes back until Chapman comes back

 

[pK75]

Does Will Brodie get another chance?

I hope so, would offer more as a sub than Erasmus did yesterday, given the 2x six day breaks could be a good idea to sub Fyfe out for Brodie end of the 3rd quarter.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Banfield was playing defence in the last quarter. Could throw him back again.
Pearce, Ryan, Young, Clark, Walker, Banfield.
Unfortunately Young goes back until Chapman comes back

Young is not moving out of the midfield

 

[Eski3]

I'd agree it's a stretch but their opinion of Voss and Tabs appears low enough to play an underdone Cox up front instead...

They might go to Voss or Tabs but I wouldnt rule out JOM playing that role instead

It's possible that they were super impressed with McDonald and wanted to reward his form more than the other two