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AFLW 2024 - Round 6 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
IronicHave you tried putting forward a winning argument?
Most of what you post is nonsense.
Trump supporters (and press secretaries) have always lied on Trump's behalf. The reason the politics over there is so toxic right now is that one candidate is a lying rapist felon and was a terrible president. To convince people to vote for him, you're going to have to lie to cover that up.
Unfortunately, the other side has decided to stick with a decent enough guy who is in physical decline. And some of them are trying to cover it up as best they can.
And the ones who support the rapist felon are hell-bent on making it all about Biden, because if they talk about their guy, they're going to have to lie and continue to forego their morals.
In the Obama years (and before), nobody had to lie because it wasn't necessary to lie for the President. (They told lies about wars and stuff, but that's par for the course, they weren't telling lies specifically to protect their guy back then, they were just telling the lies they've always told).
Trump supporters (and press secretaries) have always lied on Trump's behalf.
you do realize how corrupt Biden is right?
And yet Trump is the only President impeached in the last 2 cyclesI just think its so cute that some Blue Maga still think there is a good guy and a bad guy in this race.....you do realize how corrupt Biden is right? He has a track record of lying about the most basic things when running years ago, so much he had to drop out....
Sure that pales somewhat with Trumps misdeeds, however that doesn't make Biden a 'decent enough guy'. I know its programmed into all of us to have a victim and villain, a persecutor and an innocent, a goodie and a baddie....but this is actual the biggest lie of all that we have been fed and the sooner we all take that power back the better and less divided we will be.
They are all utter deplorables...the question is which one is ever so slightly less deplorable.
So Maga is just a generic pejorative term now? That's interesting.I just think its so cute that some Blue Maga still think there is a good guy and a bad guy in this race.....you do realize how corrupt Biden is right? He has a track record of lying about the most basic things when running years ago, so much he had to drop out....
Sure that pales somewhat with Trumps misdeeds, however that doesn't make Biden a 'decent enough guy'. I know its programmed into all of us to have a victim and villain, a persecutor and an innocent, a goodie and a baddie....but this is actual the biggest lie of all that we have been fed and the sooner we all take that power back the better and less divided we will be.
They are all utter deplorables...the question is which one is ever so slightly less deplorable.
So Maga is just a generic pejorative term now? That's interesting.
The point of progressives is that they don't just accept that the US was great once and needs to go back in time to make it great "again".
It's only one side of politics which wants to mire itself in misery and imagine a better past.
Trying to drag down Biden as if he's as bad as Trump is just nonsense. Name one thing Biden has done which has been as bad as anything Trump has done. You can go personal or in office. Trump is twice impeached, convicted felon, racist, rapist, not allowed to run a charity, says awful things about every group and habitual liar. These are all proven things he has done.
Dunno mate, this just seems like cover for genuinely terrible posting and debate.On the contrary Bourbons. I learnt long ago that 1. it's not allowed to win any arguments against the left on this platform, you'll get banned before you do, and 2. it's not like i'm going to convince anyone on here otherwise. So I just make points around the edges, enjoy the discussion, and read eulogies to the death of decency and reason in global politics.
As always, and from memory you're still yet to touch this one for some reason despite being directly asked a few times, one of those guys accepting election results and not actively trying to overturn them is the pertinent differentiator.I just think its so cute that some Blue Maga still think there is a good guy and a bad guy in this race.....you do realize how corrupt Biden is right? He has a track record of lying about the most basic things when running years ago, so much he had to drop out....
Sure that pales somewhat with Trumps misdeeds, however that doesn't make Biden a 'decent enough guy'. I know its programmed into all of us to have a victim and villain, a persecutor and an innocent, a goodie and a baddie....but this is actual the biggest lie of all that we have been fed and the sooner we all take that power back the better and less divided we will be.
They are all utter deplorables...the question is which one is ever so slightly less deplorable.
As always, and from memory you're still yet to touch this one for some reason despite being directly asked a few times, one of those guys accepting election results and not actively trying to overturn them is the pertinent differentiator.
Yes its a differentiator.
Right, a pretty important one. If you're into the whole democracy thing lolYes its a differentiator.
So Maga is just a generic pejorative term now? That's interesting.
The point of progressives is that they don't just accept that the US was great once and needs to go back in time to make it great "again".
It's only one side of politics which wants to mire itself in misery and imagine a better past.
Trying to drag down Biden as if he's as bad as Trump is just nonsense. Name one thing Biden has done which has been as bad as anything Trump has done. You can go personal or in office. Trump is twice impeached, convicted felon, racist, rapist, not allowed to run a charity, says awful things about every group and habitual liar. These are all proven things he has done.
'Belief in democratic elections and the acceptance of election results' seems a pretty key differentiator in a democracy.
Right, a pretty important one. If you're into the whole democracy thing lol
Based on this alone, the one who still accepts that elections are a thing is a bit more than slightly less deplorable, yeah?
No But Trump just pointing out how laughable these gotchas areSo you have fully bought into the us vs them, anointed vs sullied, right side vs wrong side bullshit then.
Has trump been convicted of rape?
Biden:
- Withdrawal from Afghanistan
- Southern Border
- His support of the War in Gaza
- Energy prices
- Is a known liar
Now ill wait while you "but trump" to each of these...so tiring and boring.
It's a fundamental belief.... not a skill. It wouldn't make me vote for Biden. I've said numerous times, i could not consciously vote for either of them.
No But Trump just pointing out how laughable these gotchas are
Liar - well sheeit a politician lying
Southern Border - attempted time after time to enter legislation which was rejected by Trumplicans
Energy Prices - would have happened whoever was in charge - its a nothing burger
The only one you really have is Support of Bibi - and that is deplorable - but again given the US-Israel relationship unsurprising and would be in place whatever regime was in charge
Try harder D-
- Withdrawal from Afghanistan
As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May 2021
At the start of the Biden administration, there were 2,500 US soldiers remaining in Afghanistan
The Taliban began a final offensive on 1 May and, on 8 July, Biden moved up the completion date to 31 August.[13][14] There were about 650 US troops in Afghanistan in early August 2021
No need to do each, just one point will do - you seem to have left one rather obvious dot point off Biden's list ("still recognises that elections are a thing").Now ill wait while you "but trump" to each of these...so tiring and boring.
Now you're getting itIt's a fundamental belief.... not a skill.
Ha, I'd suggest a fundamental belief in democracy elevates him a whole lot more than slightly in this case, considering the guy he's up againstExactly. This elevates him slightly above trump.....yet still light years into the depths of depraved humans.
No But Trump just pointing out how laughable these gotchas are
Liar - well sheeit a politician lying
Southern Border - attempted time after time to enter legislation which was rejected by Trumplicans
Energy Prices - would have happened whoever was in charge - its a nothing burger
The only one you really have is Support of Bibi - and that is deplorable - but again given the US-Israel relationship unsurprising and would be in place whatever regime was in charge
Try harder D-
2020–2021 U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
You might like to do some further reading on this one.
No of course not. Where did I say that
- So when Trump lies its the wors thing in the world...but when Biden lies its "well sheeit he is a politician"
When one party has a solution and the other doesnt even consider it then no you dont lay the blame at both parties
- I would lay the blame at both parties, but i doubt you will concede
Keystone has a long history which has proponents on both sides. Im not sure a proposal signed Day 1 of Biden has had any effect - while some argue that an increase in oil prices would occur
- Cancelling projects like the Keystone pipeline has not helped.
What about it? Its already been shown to you its a joint issue between both Presidents
- Afghanistan?
Lol what personal? Did you cry when the teacher wrote bad things on your report card?No need to resort to personal attack. Its weak bro.
There used to be heaps back during 2016-20. But all those posters have disappeared for unknown reasons. Now we have a few new ones. But not to the level previously as far as i can tell.Does anyone here support trump?