List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft

[Bojangles17]

Archie Ludowyke is an interesting talent with plenty of supporters and some detractors. He started the season strongly, hitting the scoreboard regularly and getting called up to play a game for Vic Metro where he had some nice moments. His close to the season wasn't as strong, particularly struggling to impact during the Dragons finals run. He's a moments player at this stage, able to find space inside the forward 50 and hit up strongly at the ball carrier. His set shot goal kicking can be variable, and he does struggle at times with his overhead marking, tending to double grab, although he has shown an ability to clunk them when he gets it right.

Messed up the name on the thumbnail. Fun times.

Don’t imagine we’d be going tall with our early picks

 

[Bojangles17]

it is an interesting fact... either he was ahead of the game and saw it before most, given he was deciding between cricket and AFL OR us picking him over FOS or Jagga was more of a sentimental pick given they were pretty similar in level of quality.

Lalor has a physical presence the other two don’t possess and unlikely too given their frames prob the key driver

 

[sregit]

How do you see it sregit ?

I was not overly impressed with Sharp in the U17 game at the G. Plenty of others were better. Richmond will end bottom 3 and a good chance to end last but not a certainty. I think there are 2 or 3 others that look as impressive as Sharp, so therefore I’d want to see how the U18 year develops before anointing Sharp as the Nbr 1 pick.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

I was not overly impressed with Sharp in the U17 game at the G. Plenty of others were better. Richmond will end bottom 3 and a good chance to end last but not a certainty. I think there are 2 or 3 others that look as impressive as Sharp, so therefore I’d want to see how the U18 year develops before anointing Sharp as the Nbr 1 pick.

gonna be a great year for watching juniors even with a large cast of academy aligned players, still plenty of talent available to us. sharp is tracking like reid in that hes dominated his age group from under 16's. excited to see what he brings in his draft year without the more mature talent around him taking the spotlight. im predicting big things.

 

[sregit]

gonna be a great year for watching juniors even with a large cast of academy aligned players, still plenty of talent available to us. sharp is tracking like reid in that hes dominated his age group from under 16's. excited to see what he brings in his draft year without the more mature talent around him taking the spotlight. im predicting big things.

Sharp has dominated in SA. Not nationally. Let’s see if he’s dominant in U18 national games first. As I stated prior, way too early to nominate him as Nbr 1. Reid was a standout at U17s & U18s. Showed way more than Sharp. There are others who could skip past Sharp in 2025.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

I was not overly impressed with Sharp in the U17 game at the G. Plenty of others were better. Richmond will end bottom 3 and a good chance to end last but not a certainty. I think there are 2 or 3 others that look as impressive as Sharp, so therefore I’d want to see how the U18 year develops before anointing Sharp as the Nbr 1 pick.

The problem with Sharp is similar to Horne-Francis and Reid. Touted no.1 pick 18mths out from the draft and hence they spend their last year of juniors treading water and trying to not get injured. It's common for their underage year to be of higher quality. The only time he'll fire up is if his SANFL team plays finals.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Sharp has dominated in SA. Not nationally. Let’s see if he’s dominant in U18 national games first. As I stated prior, way too early to nominate him as Nbr 1. Reid was a standout at U17s & U18s. Showed way more than Sharp. There are others who could skip past Sharp in 2025.

No one has been as dominate as Reid (maybe Hodge) in juniors, so the comparison is unrealistic. Sharp was every bit as dominate as any other recent no.1 apart from Reid at u16 and u17 level. He is a fair way in front at this point for no.1.

The only risk is that he is man child and hence his scope for development lower than someone like Duursma. If we finish bottom watch Port and Adel come with a treasure chest of picks for Sharp. It might well be worth trading it this year.

 

[Karp3_dm]

No one has been as dominate as Reid (maybe Hodge) in juniors, so the comparison is unrealistic. Sharp was every bit as dominate as any other recent no.1 apart from Reid at u16 and u17 level. He is a fair way in front at this point for no.1.

The only risk is that he is man child and hence his scope for development lower than someone like Duursma. If we finish bottom watch Port and Adel come with a treasure chest of picks for Sharp. It might well be worth trading it this year.

Good points

A lot of water under the bridge before that but def all options Blair will be open to I’m sure

 

[Dr Tigris]

I was not overly impressed with Sharp in the U17 game at the G. Plenty of others were better. Richmond will end bottom 3 and a good chance to end last but not a certainty. I think there are 2 or 3 others that look as impressive as Sharp, so therefore I’d want to see how the U18 year develops before anointing Sharp as the Nbr 1 pick.

Sharp is pretty amazing for a kid that young. But what I have watched he is obviously physically amazing, has a really good footy brain, but often lacked composure/skills under pressure. Given what I saw was playing SANFL it's understandable he struggled with the intensity. If he can sharpen those skills there is no way you wouldn't look at him as an obvious high talent monster mid. Sometimes the man children don't take that next step at the AfL. But often they simply are stronger and more physically capable and so dominate at AFL. I'll leave it to the draft team to work that out.

 

[Dr Tigris]

No one has been as dominate as Reid (maybe Hodge) in juniors, so the comparison is unrealistic. Sharp was every bit as dominate as any other recent no.1 apart from Reid at u16 and u17 level. He is a fair way in front at this point for no.1.

The only risk is that he is man child and hence his scope for development lower than someone like Duursma. If we finish bottom watch Port and Adel come with a treasure chest of picks for Sharp. It might well be worth trading it this year.

Trading the pick (if #1) is a huge decision. Especially with what we have already drafted in 2024. If we can get a player who gives us a totally dominant midfield then I say go for it and hopefully have a midfield that will simply beat everyone else and all we need is that spine to be genuine conders for a decade. We've drafted that already.

But if we get a stupid trade that means we can replicate 24 again it'd be hard to walk away from that.

 

[Muddiemoose]

gonna be a great year for watching juniors even with a large cast of academy aligned players, still plenty of talent available to us. sharp is tracking like reid in that hes dominated his age group from under 16's. excited to see what he brings in his draft year without the more mature talent around him taking the spotlight. im predicting big things.

Psh stuff that

I’m just going to completly ignore it and somehow a week before the draft become an expert like last year

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Sharp has dominated in SA. Not nationally. Let’s see if he’s dominant in U18 national games first. As I stated prior, way too early to nominate him as Nbr 1. Reid was a standout at U17s & U18s. Showed way more than Sharp. There are others who could skip past Sharp in 2025.

Sharp was bar far the best kid at the U16's natioanl a year or so ago... Thats as natioanl as a 16 year old can get!

Thats coming straight from somone in the Vic coaching crew

Don't know what you've been watching

 

[Coach_Required]

Sharp was bar far the best kid at the U16's natioanl a year or so ago... Thats as natioanl as a 16 year old can get!

Thats coming straight from somone in the Vic coaching crew

Don't know what you've been watching

Sharp is going to be better than Reid then watch Adelaide tank after they bomb early and sack the coach this year.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Trading the pick (if #1) is a huge decision. Especially with what we have already drafted in 2024. If we can get a player who gives us a totally dominant midfield then I say go for it and hopefully have a midfield that will simply beat everyone else and all we need is that spine to be genuine conders for a decade. We've drafted that already.

But if we get a stupid trade that means we can replicate 24 again it'd be hard to walk away from that.

What is Port offer Butters and Adelaide their 2025 & 2026 1st rounders plus Soligo. Thats the sort of offers we are going to be getting.

 

[Truetiger]

Psh stuff that

I’m just going to completly ignore it and somehow a week before the draft become an expert like last year

I was told you are an expert, all the time my bad.

 

[sregit]

Sharp was bar far the best kid at the U16's natioanl a year or so ago... Thats as natioanl as a 16 year old can get!

Thats coming straight from somone in the Vic coaching crew

Don't know what you've been watching

I’ve watched plenty of juniors and try not to fire off prematurely unlike others. U18s is the final test and I’m saying let’s not anoint Sharp nbr1 until we see his performances in 2025. Sharp is an early developer and I want to see if he’s still dominant and clearly best available. A player like Rodriguez may be nbr1 by next year or Emmett and others. I’m sure Sharp will rate highly but not convinced he’s clear pick 1. FOS was supposed to be a standout but by year end any of 4 or 5 others were in the number 1 talks.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

I’ve watched plenty of juniors and try not to fire off prematurely unlike others. U18s is the final test and I’m saying let’s not anoint Sharp nbr1 until we see his performances in 2025. Sharp is an early developer and I want to see if he’s still dominant and clearly best available. A player like Rodriguez may be nbr1 by next year or Emmett and others. I’m sure Sharp will rate highly but not convinced he’s clear pick 1. FOS was supposed to be a standout but by year end any of 4 or 5 others were in the number 1 talks.

whilst I actually dont disagree with this post... this is not what you were saying previously at all.

You were saying sharp had not dominated outside of SA which was completely false.
So just because you don't fire off prematurely, don't make sh!t up to suit your argument.

But, I do agree with you, it doesn't really matter who is the current potential #1 , is it is more than lilkely to change 3-4 times in the next 10 months

 

[THE_GUN]

Sharp & Rodriguez are exactly the 2 kids we need and will complete our midfield perfectly along with Hotton , Smillie , Lalor

 

[sregit]

whilst I actually dont disagree with this post... this is not what you were saying previously at all.

You were saying sharp had not dominated outside of SA which was completely false.
So just because you don't fire off prematurely, don't make sh!t up to suit your argument.

But, I do agree with you, it doesn't really matter who is the current potential #1 , is it is more than lilkely to change 3-4 times in the next 10 months

Did Sharp dominate nationally in 2024? I'm not making shit up. You're going back to 2023 to justify your statement. A manchild at under 16s is not a reason to be sprouting off. Even though his SAFL performances in 2024 had a lot of merrit, until we see him matched against the best U18s I see no reason to be calling him Nbr 1. He was ordinary on GF day against his own age category. Many others were better.

 

[THE_GUN]

Did Sharp dominate nationally in 2024? I'm not making shit up. You're going back to 2023 to justify your statement. A manchild at under 16s is not a reason to be sprouting off. Even though his SAFL performances in 2024 had a lot of merrit, until we see him matched against the best U18s I see no reason to be calling him Nbr 1. He was ordinary on GF day against his own age category. Many others were better.

Who would you call Mr #1 if not sharp

 

[sregit]

Who would you call Mr #1 if not sharp

I wasn't calling anyone specifically. I'm saying I think there are others that are in the conversation and Sharp is not a clear pick 1. Personally I think Rodreguez has more upside and if it wasn't for the fact that we now have loaded up with talls, then Emmett would be high on my list. Just let 2025 unfold.

 

[THE_GUN]

I wasn't calling anyone specifically. I'm saying I think there are others that are in the conversation and Sharp is not a clear pick 1. Personally I think Rodreguez has more upside and if it wasn't for the fact that we now have loaded up with talls, then Emmett would be high on my list. Just let 2025 unfold.

You see this is where it gets interesting
I like Fred as well and am hoping for both with our 2 selections BUT

When you say a player is no clear #1 then you are sitting on the fence
Currently if the draft was done today then Sharp is clear #1

The in the conversation comment is non comital and to make that type of call you need to tell us who your clear #1 is today
because 80% of draft watchers have him as the clear #1 today

What happens in 6 months is another story and anything could happen abut today is what we are talking about

 

[Delediodelight]

As of right now my clear number 1 is Sharp and my second preference for next pick is Fred. The interesting thing over this year is if our second pick comes before WC, as they’ll be desperate for him. Greeves, Onley and Duursma are my next batch.

With Sharp it is worth noting that he was All Australian in both bottom and top age under 16 (this is very rare), he then progressed to play very well in a couple of National Under 18 games but got injured in another. I give him a pass for the futures under 17 match he was played half back for a lot of the match it is also important to remember he had just come off 2/3 senior SANFL finals game after just turning 17. Is he perfect no, but he is very good in a number of areas and the thing I notice most is he is typically a one touch player, he rarely fumbles, and if he doesn’t get the ball he tackles hard.

As is the case with all trades involving the number 1, it would have to be in our favour to even consider it. I think having Sharp and Fred together with Smillie, Lalor, and Hotton, if they all click that is one scary midfield!