Strategy 2025 Flex Spot Discussion & Strategy

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[dabombers]

 

[dabombers]

WaynesWorld19

Could you do me a favour and start a thread on the “ Flex Spot Discussion & Strategy - How to Maximise Spot“.

I think many are thinking about it and a lot of chatter is about playing a Ruck in that position. Flynn seems to be very popular. For a guy who might not play each week????

Last 2 Seasons I used way too many trades on the ruck line 6+.

If the Flex spot is going to replace the lowest score on-field, my early thoughts are to whack a Premo in there, probably a Ruck, which will wipe out a rookie’s <50 score anywhere on-field and bring it up to an easy 100+.

Cost is an extra one or two on-field rookie/s vs say two mid-pricers. (MID or FWD)
Though this could generate cash quicker.

I currently have a ruck line of
Gawn & Xerri with a benched R/F
With English in the Flex spot.
(Sacrificing 2 common Mid-Priced Defender’s in Kiddy and Mills to the bin, think they are going to burn a lot of teams)

Apologies to anyone who has suggested this as a strategy already.

I have just crawled out of my SuperCoach Hibernation Cave after a horrible season last year, 50k ranking and running out of trades just after the byes and not getting to a fully upgraded side. Ended up this way by buying into way too many spuds @ mid pricing in starting side and sideways trades on some misinformed injuries. (Reported as 4-6 weeks out, to only end up as a week or two out)

This year planning on utilising Chat GPT 4.0 for trade suggestions (a bit like the a home-made FPL app, also if anyone wants to work on app Development for something similar to Fantasy Football Hub PM me), based on stats and price increases and online data available instead of the old spreadsheet system and following the YouTube and Consensus teams.

Copy Paste days are gone.

Already up to V1.3 team, will post all of them over the Weekend to show and tell.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This year planning on utilising Chat GPT 4.0 for trade suggestions based on stats and price increases and online data available instead of the old spreadsheet system and following the YouTube and Consensus teams.

 

[dabombers]

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Thanks WaynesWorld19 for starting this thread.

Me using Computer AI’s

 

[Northernsoul74]

WaynesWorld19

Could you do me a favour and start a thread on the “ Flex Spot Discussion & Strategy - How to Maximise Spot“.

I think many are thinking about it and a lot of chatter is about playing a Ruck in that position. Flynn seems to be very popular. For a guy who might not play each week????

Last 2 Seasons I used way too many trades on the ruck line 6+.

If the Flex spot is going to replace the lowest score on-field, my early thoughts are to whack a Premo in there, probably a Ruck, which will wipe out a rookie’s <50 score anywhere on-field and bring it up to an easy 100+.

Cost is an extra one or two on-field rookie/s vs say two mid-pricers. (MID or FWD)
Though this could generate cash quicker.

I currently have a ruck line of
Gawn & Xerri with a benched R/F
With English in the Flex spot.
(Sacrificing 2 common Mid-Priced Defender’s in Kiddy and Mills to the bin, think they are going to burn a lot of teams)

Apologies to anyone who has suggested this as a strategy already.

I have just crawled out of my SuperCoach Hibernation Cave after a horrible season last year, 50k ranking and running out of trades just after the byes and not getting to a fully upgraded side. Ended up this way by buying into way too many spuds @ mid pricing in starting side and sideways trades on some misinformed injuries. (Reported as 4-6 weeks out, to only end up as a week or two out)

This year planning on utilising Chat GPT 4.0 for trade suggestions (a bit like the a home-made FPL app, also if anyone wants to work on app Development for something similar to Fantasy Football Hub PM me), based on stats and price increases and online data available instead of the old spreadsheet system and following the YouTube and Consensus teams.

Copy Paste days are gone.

Already up to V1.3 team, will post all of them over the Weekend to show and tell.

If you’re paying up for a premo why not have them on field? My gut currently is telling me to use flex to generate cash early on. Down the track I’d happily fill it with a premo if I’ve got to a full premo 22.

 

[kyri]

Already up to V1.3 team, will post all of them over the Weekend to show and tell.

 

[dabombers]

Should clarify.
That is V1.3 now 1.4 saved teams to Notes.

Reality is I probably have swapped and switched around 100+ teams last 24hrs.

Will be back at SuperCoach Anonymous meetings after New Years Day.

 

[buttox]

If you’re paying up for a premo why not have them on field? My gut currently is telling me to use flex to generate cash early on. Down the track I’d happily fill it with a premo if I’ve got to a full premo 22.

Ok so let's assume we have 5 rookies on field.
We can loop a few of them to begin with and get a second look.
Or we can play one flex and hope they score more than our 22nd best.
Other option is to play 6 rookies on field and guarantee your 22nd best drops out with a decent flex.
You don't get more cash gen playing a rookie as flex. You will have the same amount of rookies either way. The cash gen argument is nonsense. You don't get more cash gen from a rookie because they are on field.
We all end up with roughly the same amount of rookies. Only things that changes that really is how many mid prices or top end sp's we have.

 

[dabombers]

If you’re paying up for a premo why not have them on field? My gut currently is telling me to use flex to generate cash early on. Down the track I’d happily fill it with a premo if I’ve got to a full premo 22.

I get this idea and switching later in the Season. Gotta generate that cash and use those boosts. So I won’t disregard that idea.

My thoughts are based on trying to get the most Premium players in starting side. For structure.
I currently want 5 MID Premo’s two of which are fallen priced MIDS, down from $620k plus at the start of last season to well below that this season.

The rest of the side has been worked out around that and my Ruck idea.

I currently have 9 on-field rookies
3 in each line. DEF/MID/FWD.
Add in the 7 of course, on Bench lines.
Ruck Bench is just Captain loop R/F swingman.

By using 3 Premo Rucks with one as Flex, the mid-season byes for Rucks are covered with only one in each bye round. So will always have 2 playing premium's. Also Injury coverage.

Rookies/Mid-Pricers and the Vests is my team’s structure's weakness and concerns.
Along with early bye must have rookies who I will need coverage for.

Finally instead of getting a ‘Shizen Houzer’ on-field R/F as coverage like previous years team structures, we finally get a chance to have 3 Premo Rucks who could score 140-180’s any given round. Which replaces almost any score on-field, so I can then field a more risk/reward on-field team.

It feels like the gift that will always keep on giving.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If you’re paying up for a premo why not have them on field? My gut currently is telling me to use flex to generate cash early on. Down the track I’d happily fill it with a premo if I’ve got to a full premo 22.

My initial thoughts were to use the Flex position similarly to the utility position in AFL Fantasy ......having a DPP opens up a lot of flexibility with bye players missing

I agree with buttox the rookie notion is a bit silly .....you're going to end with the same cash generation, whether in the Flex position, or on the bench

What I've initially done is put Luke Jackson (Ruck / fwd) in the flex position ...given Hodor's slow recuperation from injury, and well rounded training photo's

With all the value in the FWD line this year ...why have a backup ruck sitting in my FWD line, when I can have him in the Flex role

Thru the magic of all the DPP's I'm aiming to have .....it opens up a power of flexibility across all zones

 

[MacStradbroke]

My initial thoughts were to use the Flex position similarly to the utility position in AFL Fantasy ......having a DPP opens up a lot of flexibility with bye players missing

I agree with buttox the rookie notion is a bit silly .....you're going to end with the same cash generation, whether in the Flex position, or on the bench

What I've initially done is put Luke Jackson (Ruck / fwd) in the flex position ...given Hodor's slow recuperation from injury, and well rounded training photo's

With all the value in the FWD line this year ...why have a backup ruck sitting in my FWD line, when I can have him in the Flex role

Thru the magic of all the DPP's I'm aiming to have .....it opens up a power of flexibility across all zones

Alternatively, if you like Jackson, why not play 4 rucks

 

[dabombers]

My initial thoughts were to use the Flex position similarly to the utility position in AFL Fantasy ......having a DPP opens up a lot of flexibility with bye players missing

I agree with buttox the rookie notion is a bit silly .....you're going to end with the same cash generation, whether in the Flex position, or on the bench

What I've initially done is put Luke Jackson (Ruck / fwd) in the flex position ...given Hodor's slow recuperation from injury, and well rounded training photo's

With all the value in the FWD line this year ...why have a backup ruck sitting in my FWD line, when I can have him in the Flex role

Thru the magic of all the DPP's I'm aiming to have .....it opens up a power of flexibility across all zones

Would Luke Jackson be considered a keeper?
Darcy threat, both scoring and injury prone, which Darcy do we get.

Unless some MID DPP changes happen during the year to the fwd line, averages for forward premo's will be 95-105(max)

Thats why I am fading any FWD premo’s and going full budget mid-pricers and Rookies.

Also Jackson on my never again list.
Unless something drastic changes.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Would Luke Jackson be considered a keeper?
Darcy threat, both scoring and injury prone, which Darcy do we get.

Unless some MID DPP changes happen during the year to the fwd line, averages for forward premo's will be 95-105(max)

Thats why I am fading any FWD premo’s and going full budget mid-pricers and Rookies.

Also Jackson on my never again list.
Unless something drastic changes.

Luke Jackson may become Tom De Koning

 

[Caztheconquerer]

Luke Jackson may become Tom De Koning

Hated having Jackson in my team last year, didn’t start him and he killed it. Finally bought him in and he punched out 50s and 60s as sole ruck at stages. Dekoning much better imo for that position

 

[kyri]

a premo ruck in the flex seems like such a safe bet.

gawn marshall and english is just...

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Ok so let's assume we have 5 rookies on field.
We can loop a few of them to begin with and get a second look.
Or we can play one flex and hope they score more than our 22nd best.
Other option is to play 6 rookies on field and guarantee your 22nd best drops out with a decent flex.
You don't get more cash gen playing a rookie as flex. You will have the same amount of rookies either way. The cash gen argument is nonsense. You don't get more cash gen from a rookie because they are on field.
We all end up with roughly the same amount of rookies. Only things that changes that really is how many mid prices or top end sp's we have.

It depends how you look at it. If you play as just a 31st player, aware you need the cash gen to get 23 premo's playing an "extra" rookie makes a lot of sense.

Folk talking about putting a SP mid/ruck there are just robbing Peter to pay Paul. They will have an extra rookie/mp on field somewhere.

 

[buttox]

It depends how you look at it. If you play as just a 31st player, aware you need the cash gen to get 23 premo's playing an "extra" rookie makes a lot of sense.

Folk talking about putting a SP mid/ruck there are just robbing Peter to pay Paul. They will have an extra rookie/mp on field somewhere.

The 31st player will probably be a rookie I agree.
But it's best to look at that as separate thing from the decision we need to make on who goes into flex.
Flex on its own does not effect cash gen whatsoever.
Flex is all about maximising points.

 

[MacStradbroke]

It depends how you look at it. If you play as just a 31st player, aware you need the cash gen to get 23 premo's playing an "extra" rookie makes a lot of sense.

Folk talking about putting a SP mid/ruck there are just robbing Peter to pay Paul. They will have an extra rookie/mp on field somewhere.

The 31st player will probably be a rookie I agree.
But it's best to look at that as separate thing from the decision we need to make on who goes into flex.
Flex on its own does not effect cash gen whatsoever.
Flex is all about maximising points.

Yeah the 31st player will be a rookie for everyone, but the additional spot allows for a third ruck for those interested, or an additional def or mid if that’s your aim. Early though, a third ruck is achievable.

 

[dabombers]

It depends how you look at it. If you play as just a 31st player, aware you need the cash gen to get 23 premo's playing an "extra" rookie makes a lot of sense.

Folk talking about putting a SP mid/ruck there are just robbing Peter to pay Paul. They will have an extra rookie/mp on field somewhere.

Using a Premo as Flex
Especially Ruck you could easily sideways after midseason byes to say a last Midfield Premo.

Ideas for how Flex spot could be used.

Scenario 1.
You plan your Flex as the best player to cover a line during mid-season byes.
So certain Combos work or don’t.
Say having 2 round 12 Rucks.

Scenario 2.
If long or short term injury hits you easily cover that line with the flex spot and shift around that.

Scenario 3.
Sideways trade manoeuvre.
Say your Premo onfield is about to loose 60k from a bunch of poor scores use the Flex to switch.
(Would work better with a D/M/F player but it could be a Ruck)

Scenario 4.
Using your Flex as an upgrade/cash gen spot.
Could be handy for an early boost to fix re-jig starting team and getting the right rookies for quicker cash growth for culling season.

Scenario 5.
Balls to the wall, risk it for the biscuit.
You have that one mid-priced or underpriced player you think will have a breakout or rebound season.
Yet you don’t want him onfield.
So stick to the old SuperCoach style, and put some money on a roughie in Race 2 at Doomben.

Scenario 6.
Get that extra midfield rookie for cash gen who you just can’t squeeze in because you want them all.
Play or rotate the highest averaging rookie as your flex and speed up that extra $150k for your upgrades.

4 & 6 are similar but it depends on your starting teams premo structure.

Point is this is new to us all and we will all use it differently.
Only by seasons end, will we know which experiment worked or failed.

I had a look at bad (timing or dud’s) or wasted trades from last season.
Trying to imagine a way to use the Flex spot to reduce a trade or 6 this year.

 

[kyri]

Using a Premo as Flex
Especially Ruck you could easily sideways after midseason byes to say a last Midfield Premo.

Ideas for how Flex spot could be used.

Scenario 1.
You plan your Flex as the best player to cover a line during mid-season byes.
So certain Combos work or don’t.
Say having 2 round 12 Rucks.

Scenario 2.
If long or short term injury hits you easily cover that line with the flex spot and shift around that.

Scenario 3.
Sideways trade manoeuvre.
Say your Premo onfield is about to loose 60k from a bunch of poor scores use the Flex to switch.
(Would work better with a D/M/F player but it could be a Ruck)

Scenario 4.
Using your Flex as an upgrade/cash gen spot.
Could be handy for an early boost to fix re-jig starting team and getting the right rookies for quicker cash growth for culling season.

Scenario 5.
Balls to the wall, risk it for the biscuit.
You have that one mid-priced or underpriced player you think will have a breakout or rebound season.
Yet you don’t want him onfield.
So stick to the old SuperCoach style, and put some money on a roughie in Race 2 at Doomben.

Scenario 6.
Get that extra midfield rookie for cash gen who you just can’t squeeze in because you want them all.
Play or rotate the highest averaging rookie as your flex and speed up that extra $150k for your upgrades.

4 & 6 are similar but it depends on your starting teams premo structure.

Point is this is new to us all and we will all use it differently.
Only by seasons end, will we know which experiment worked or failed.

I had a look at bad (timing or dud’s) or wasted trades from last season.
Trying to imagine a way to use the Flex spot to reduce a trade or 6 this year.

I think everyone is overthinking this flex position. It's a 23rd player on field, where each week is best 22. All we do is lose our lowest score of the week.

I dont see how a flex can cover injuries or provide any extra cash gen that another position cannot provide.

Theres 6-8 spots on every other line but rucks, so why would you need an extra one of those positions?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think everyone is overthinking this flex position. It's a 23rd player on field, where each week is best 22. All we do is lose our lowest score of the week.

I dont see how a flex can cover injuries or provide any extra cash gen that another position cannot provide.

Theres 6-8 spots on every other line but rucks, so why would you need an extra one of those positions?

In this example:

1. I can interchange Flynn with Maley to cover injuries / byes to TDK and Xerri

2. I can then interchange a FWD Rookie with Maley if he isn't playing

3. If the FWD Rookie has DPP (Mid /Fwd) ...I can interchange a non-playing FWD DPP Rookie with a bench playing MID Rookie (Mid/Fwd)

 

[King Max]

One thing you’ll need from your flex player is games every week or you keep that low score from your 22.
I would not be entertaining someone injury prone, coming back from injury or a rookie/player who has played limited games last year and hoping for more next season.
Maybe a mid priced player coming into his 3/4 season? Hoping for 70-80 points a week until you are full premo.
Then fill the last 23rd spot with a fallen premium later in the season.

 

[VainGlorious]

I think everyone is overthinking this flex position.

Exactly.

They’re giving us a free hit and a chance to play an extra ruckman.

I think it’s perfect for a high-ish risk high reward player that can pump out a huge score. Someone like TDK, LDU, Green, Noah Anderson.

That’s how I’m looking at it.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

I honestly think that it is ridiculous starting a premo in the flex position like a 3rd premo ruck.
After playing around with different teams I feel like a fallen premo or midpricer with a great role under $300k is the best option. Players who have a previous good scoring history and will score much higher than a F6 while also generating cash.
The first 4 rounds are bye rounds so it will be best 18 anyway so depending on individual starting teams it is absolutely the best option to be chasing cash generation while scoring higher than usually F6.