Oppo Camp 2025 Hawks Death Ride

[Dewyyyyy]

Since 2019

Hawthorn
Top 10 picks: Ward, Mckenzie, Watson
First round picks: Weddle, McCabe (F/S)
Other notable draftees in B23: McDonald (2022), Will Day (2019), Newcombe (2021)
Fringe/Promising: Dear(F/S), Maginness (2019)
Busts: Grainger-Barrass

West Coast
Top 10 picks: Reid
First round picks: Chesser, Ginbey, Hewett, Allan
Other notable draftee in B23: Hough, Long, Maric (2023), Hutchinson (2024)
Fringe/Promising: AReid, Shanahan, JWilliams, Dewar
Busts: Chesser(?-still on list), Bazzo(? -still on list)

Considering we started heading to the draft in 2021, a full 2 years after Hawthorn I think our drafting is relatively comparable possible even better.

Where they kill us is moneyball trades. They had 10 players in their lineup that have been traded in to their club. The only one that cost them a first round pick is Barrass.

Ginnivan, D'Ambrosio, Ginnivan, Chol, Amon, Meek

Our comparable trades are: Petrevski-Seton, Witherdon, Zack Langdon none of who are on the list. Hunt is a tick, Graham looks promising, Flynn a question mark and Brockman can hopefully become a tick- would be a big win if he does. And obviously Baker will be a tick, even if we gave up more than we should.

Our ability to find money-bal trade, free agents, and find guys who can play a role is the difference maker.

Love this analysis

Will say Will McCabe, Hustwaite two others you’ve missed for Hawthorn.

Some very good youth on the Eagles front. Won’t be long until they all hit their straps in a few years. Reid already so.

 

[WCErevival]

Since 2019

Hawthorn
Top 10 picks: Ward, Mckenzie, Watson
First round picks: Weddle, McCabe (F/S)
Other notable draftees in B23: McDonald (2022), Will Day (2019), Newcombe (2021)
Fringe/Promising: Dear(F/S), Maginness (2019)
Busts: Grainger-Barrass

West Coast
Top 10 picks: Reid
First round picks: Chesser, Ginbey, Hewett, Allan
Other notable draftee in B23: Hough, Long, Maric (2023), Hutchinson (2024)
Fringe/Promising: AReid, Shanahan, JWilliams, Dewar
Busts: Chesser(?-still on list), Bazzo(? -still on list)

Considering we started heading to the draft in 2021, a full 2 years after Hawthorn I think our drafting is relatively comparable possible even better.

Where they kill us is moneyball trades. They had 10 players in their lineup that have been traded in to their club. The only one that cost them a first round pick is Barrass.

Ginnivan, D'Ambrosio, Ginnivan, Chol, Amon, Meek

Our comparable trades are: Petrevski-Seton, Witherdon, Zack Langdon none of who are on the list. Hunt is a tick, Graham looks promising, Flynn a question mark and Brockman can hopefully become a tick- would be a big win if he does. And obviously Baker will be a tick, even if we gave up more than we should.

Our ability to find money-bal trade, free agents, and find guys who can play a role is the difference maker.

Wasn't Reuben a top 10 pick for us?

 

[UseR2006]

Wasn't Reuben a top 10 pick for us?

9 i think, if i remember right

 

[Cuzz09]

is TK a tick for trade ins?

prob is really

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[ioppolo]

is TK a tick for trade ins?

prob is really

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Came in at the worst possible time. Hard to judge.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

is TK a tick for trade ins?

prob is really

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Won our B+F and finished top 10 every year since arrival.

It’s not a home run given the price, and acknowledging we’ve been absolutely grim for half of that time, but as trades go that’s absolutely a tick.

 

[garlic munchers]

Won our B+F and finished top 10 every year since arrival.

It’s not a home run given the price, and acknowledging we’ve been absolutely grim for half of that time, but as trades go that’s absolutely a tick.

Even a bruised peach will look good surrounded by potatoes like SPS and and Zack.

 

[AnyDanger]

3 games into the year, but oh boy, could have backed the wrong horse big time here

 

[stallon]

welp, not a great start

Cheering for the Bombers() tomorrow night

 

[FKASC]

Doesn’t matter how well we do this year, I feel like people will melt harder over this trade than be happy about the club’s on-field development

 

[RanaNaved]

Meh, do not care. Whatever it ends up being will just go to Sydney imo

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Sydney fans would be absolutely ropable knowing they’ll end up with pick 12 not pick 8.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Meh, do not care. Whatever it ends up being will just go to Sydney imo

Exactly. I don't know why this thread needs to be re-bumped every time Carlton faces suffrage. We knew the second the details came out from the Barrass trade that it was stupid we chose the Hawks pick instead of Carlton. But no one could've foreseen the injury run Carlton got over the pre season either. So now you're getting extra mad about the club not being able to see into the future?

 

[RanaNaved]

Exactly. I don't know why this thread needs to be re-bumped every time Carlton faces suffrage. We knew the second the details came out from the Barrass trade that it was stupid we chose the Hawks pick instead of Carlton. But no one could've foreseen the injury run Carlton got over the pre season either. So now you're getting extra mad about the club not being able to see into the future?

Yeah some people get way too emotional about things like this

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

 

[WCE_phil]

2024 all over again. 2 early wins then 20 straight losses for Richmond.... Carlton were horrendous after half time.

 

[WCE777]

2024 all over again. 2 early wins then 20 straight losses for Richmond.... Carlton were horrendous after half time.

That was embarrassing from Carlton, could do no wrong in first half and laid down like a bottom side in the second.

 

[stallon]

That was embarrassing from Carlton, could do no wrong in first half and laid down like a bottom side in the second.

Even in the first half they were pretty average tbh

 

[WCE777]

Even in the first half they were pretty average tbh

Cripps and TDK are the only players who fought out the game, also Carltons best in the first half

 

[mat11]

Kinda no point worrying about whether we should of taken Carlton first instead of Hawks because the end game is Warner, so it's Sydney's problem in my book

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[stallon]

Kinda no point worrying about whether we should of taken Carlton first instead of Hawks because the end game is Warner, so it's Sydney's problem in my book

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The idea would be to not use both our 2025 first round picks on Warner

 

[HoneyBadger35]

The idea would be to not use both our 2025 first round picks on Warner

Short of them turning up at 1 and 2, I’m not sure how that would play out.

Let’s say, based on the first game of the season, Carlton limp to a meek season and their pick is sixth. Hawks smash it in, finish top four and make a prelim, let’s give them 16 for arguments sake.

(Our pick) + 6 or (our pick) + 16 are both getting eaten in a Warner deal.

Loooooot footy to play anyway, going to be a tremendous thread to visit twice every week as more and more Spartici make themselves known that they were part of the 20 people who said we should go Blues.

 

[maverick001]

Kinda no point worrying about whether we should of taken Carlton first instead of Hawks because the end game is Warner, so it's Sydney's problem in my book

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It is a problem if the Hawks pick is sufficiently late in the first round that it’s not enough to do what it’s intended to do
Just like Hawks first last year went from being enough for Barrass to not being enough once they got in finals

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Agree but Hawks had a very easy fixture last year, which helped their cause.

True but they did also have a horrendous injury run early in the season. Hindsight is always 20/20

 

[mad_eagle]

Struth…the way this has started we’re gunna have to stoop to slapping the no oppo supporters tag on this thread