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Warner would be exactly what WC need in a young mid who can immediately be their best player. I would prefer we get him.
In 2016 we had Fyfe, Neale and Mundy taking taps off Sandilands, i.e. two two time Brownlow medalists and two All Australians in the centre bounce and we still finished 3rd last.

They need a good side not a gold plated midfield at its expense.

They'll still do it, just so we can't have him and because they're still huffing their own farts.
 
Harley is contracted to 2026. If they can get the Chad they'll do it and hope that convinces Reid to stay.

But on the open market Reid is only worth a little bit more than Warner. No player is worth 4 x top 10 picks as you're suggesting.
Wanna bet - If the Bombers offer him 4 firsts it could be 4 top 10 picks easily.
 
WC working hard on getting Warner...

The race for Chad Warner heats up. As per WA radio reports, can confirm the Swans star spent time with West Coast officials in Perth on the weekend, which included playing golf with them.
 

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In 2016 we had Fyfe, Neale and Mundy taking taps off Sandilands, i.e. two two time Brownlow medalists and two All Australians in the centre bounce and we still finished 3rd last.

They need a good side not a gold plated midfield at its expense.

They'll still do it, just so we can't have him and because they're still huffing their own farts.

Is this a trick? In 2016 David Mundy almost played twice as many games as Sandi and Fyfe combined and he didn't play the whole year either.

2016:
Sandilands - 5 games
Fyfe - 5 games
Mundy - 18 games
 
Putting my Freo detective cap on...

We always seem to offer names to the media for drafts that essentially throw off the scent of the player we want. We constantly allow the media to create a narrative of potential draftees/list needs for us that very rarely are what we publicly claim after the draft.

This year we have been linked HEAVILY to Berry because we apparently needed a small forward... somewhat a forward who plays like... gee wizz... Pickett.

I reckon Wallsy is playing snooker when everyone else is playing pool.
 
So if Kozzi was so keen on freo up to the last 24 hours, why didn't we make it happen?

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  • Not enough time
  • Didn't quite get to the point of progressing beyond some discussions
  • trading for Bolton went down to the final day and took up all our chess pieces and we wanted to go to the 2024 ND with a first round pick in tact. We still have 2025 ND and 2026 ND first round picks available.
 
So if Kozzi was so keen on freo up to the last 24 hours, why didn't we make it happen?

Discuss


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Easiest answer is because we couldn’t begin any Kozzie deals in earnest until we closed the Bolton deal. That was the one we had plotted for all year, including making deals in principle with Shai and his manager. Unfortunately that one took too long to complete and we would have only had that last 24hrs to cobble together a deal to satisfy Dees.

Also think we would have needed to get another pick in this years draft to make it happen - Dees wanted picks in this draft not next years.
Pick 14 alone wouldn’t have gotten it done I dont think. Not when hes contracted and Dees have all the leverage, to convince them to trade would have required massive overs which we might have struggled with based on available currency at the time

Basically Kozi was keen, but Dees weren't and we had other priorities to attend to first before we could try change their mind. Which matches up with Rhinos reporting
 

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So if Kozzi was so keen on freo up to the last 24 hours, why didn't we make it happen?

Discuss


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Demons refused to trade him

They refused to trade everyone that wanted out except ANB


if Kozzy was as bad as ANB was then he'd be on our list right now
 
Kozzie might not be worth it at the price Melbourne demand. Put your feet in their list manager’s shoes. If it is true that every year he asks to go but continues to play good football, then you’re not going to let him go for a bag of chips.

Where do your you draw the line in terms of cost? An early and middle to late first rounder?
 
Kozzie might not be worth it at the price Melbourne demand. Put your feet in their list manager’s shoes. If it is true that every year he asks to go but continues to play good football, then you’re not going to let him go for a bag of chips.

Where do your you draw the line in terms of cost? An early and middle to late first rounder?
2 firsts is the starting point tbh

We have everything we need to win if we get kozzy, you have to put faith in the team from that point to get it done


There will be a cliff about 6 years on but you have to back walls to nail multiple picks over those years
 
Let's hope bolts and Narkle are in kozzies ear all year, known to change his mind a bit apparently

Imagine Kozzie causing chaos with our talls. Woweee


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Melbourne might have missed a trick not grabbing Narkle.

They’ll know those 2 will be all over getting him to come to freo.
 
Kozzie might not be worth it at the price Melbourne demand. Put your feet in their list manager’s shoes. If it is true that every year he asks to go but continues to play good football, then you’re not going to let him go for a bag of chips.

Where do your you draw the line in terms of cost? An early and middle to late first rounder?

Two firsts for a future second coming back.

Kozzie finishes the forward line for the next 6-7 years.
We’ve got the talls and the smalls covered.

If Robinson keeps going the way he is we’re going through need points in 2026.
We’ve got Whan and Hart to take in 2025.
Robinson, Reid, Johnson and Erasmus is a good group of young mids to go with Brayshaw, Serong and Young.
Will be interesting to see if we have continuing interest in Warner.
May need to focus on a running half back.

If he still wants to come be hard to see how we’re not trading 2027 first round too.
 
This year we may struggle as players like Fyfe, Walters, O'Meara, Aish play less football in the best 22. That is over 1000 games of experience there, and I think most would only have 1 or 2 in the best 22.

If they are replaced by Erasmus, Reid, Banfield and Wagner, then it will be interesting to see how we handle certain in game situations or if we need to wait until quarter time or half time to fix issues in our team.

A good experienced team with several smart on field leaders, can adjust the game plan very quickly.
The mid team can adjust the game plan at quarter time.
An in experienced team, it may take 5 or 6 training to work it out.


A separate question, but do we an on field coach? Pearce looks to be pretty good. Not sure about Brayshaw and Serong.
What about the forward line?
Not sure about Brayshaw and Serong..... just wondering what signs of leadership you might be hoping to see from them to give you more confidence.

Also, in the forward line, Treacy is stepping up confidently.
 
Not sure about Brayshaw and Serong..... just wondering what signs of leadership you might be hoping to see from them to give you more confidence.

Also, in the forward line, Treacy is stepping up confidently.

I guess their are two types of leadership (well at least 2).

1. Is off field - setting training standards, driving culture, ensuring everyone is happy etc etc.
2. Is tactical nous, and tweaking the game plan on the fly to exploit weaknesses in the opposition, or stop the opposition from getting on a run.



I think Brayshaw, and Serong and very good at the first, but I am not sure about the 2nd. Not sure about Pearce either.

Nick Maxwell was brilliant at organising Collingwood's defense. Sam Mitchell would have been brilliant at organising Hawthorn and ensuring the midfield was set up correctly.

If you have on field coaches, then you don't need to wait until quarter time for the coach to correct the issue.


FYI - Brayshaw was talking about ensuring everyone is focused during the game, on the right things. So this would be another thing a good leader does.

Just to be clear, not saying that are bad at the tactical side of things, I just don't know and with the exception of a defender organising a backline it is hard to see (for myself at least).
 
Just to be clear, not saying that are bad at the tactical side of things, I just don't know and with the exception of a defender organising a backline it is hard to see (for myself at least).
Google Specsavers.

Treacy looks pretty active in organising the forwards.

And given those 2 midfielders are performing at their current levels while apparently lacking on-field leadership, we have so much upside to come. Young also seems to show leadership qualities.
 
Kozzie will raise a lot of interesting questions list management wise:
  • Pick one of Sturt, Freddy or Switta to trade or send to Peel.
  • How do Reid and/or Simpson ever get a look in? Do they kick one or two of the other names above out eventually? Do we move Simpson to the HBF? Has all the tools.
  • The Darcy debate comes up again because the other way to make a spot is move Jackson (who was requested to put on weight supposedly) to full time ruck...
 
Kozzie will raise a lot of interesting questions list management wise:
  • Pick one of Sturt, Freddy or Switta to trade or send to Peel.
  • How do Reid and/or Simpson ever get a look in? Do they kick one or two of the other names above out eventually? Do we move Simpson to the HBF? Has all the tools.
  • The Darcy debate comes up again because the other way to make a spot is move Jackson (who was requested to put on weight supposedly) to full time ruck...
  • Sturt probably. Freddie doesn't play close to goal so it doesn't affect him.
  • Play better than one of the incumbents. Also, Switta is 28 next year isn't he? Reid will play somewhere. Maybe wing or half back.
  • Nah.
 

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