2025 Pre-Season chat

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Unless you are within the club's inner sanctum, you are completely guessing/hoping.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play.
Still, we're grown men and women, so gushing over "here's what I heard at a wedding" is a serious devolution of discussion.

I'd rather go off what I see and if there's nothing there to see, why bother guessing.
 

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I also won't comment on personalities, I don't know them. Egos take time to sort themselves out, hopefully.
But I think, and hope, there shouldn't be much on field problems because at the moment, Bailey's online business model is not dependent on personal footy stats. His popularity might have started as a footy star, but it is sustained now as much by his looks and abs as it is his onfield performances. If his SM profile had "Champion Goal Kicker...", then I would be more concerned. But I think he'll settle in after some rustiness and new team cohesion issues wear away after season has started. TBH, due to my own biases and older generational taste, my fear is that he, or any Cat, started doing choreographed(branded) celebrations after each tackle, take away or goal, like they do in the NFL. :thumbsdown: That would suck.
Be it puff pieces in the media, or gossipy whispers, I never take most preseason news seriously. Injury and police reports, yes, but not that crap. Let's see him in action with the rest of them on the field before judgement.

I can overlook that in the Grand Final (Jezza cracking open a tinny in 2022 is now part of Grand Final folklore in my book) but yeah, home & away season theatrics are a bit much.
 
Still, we're grown men and women, so gushing over "here's what I heard at a wedding" is a serious devolution of discussion.

I'd rather go off what I see and if there's nothing there to see, why bother guessing.

Everything looks a bazillion % good if you only go off what you see then just about all the time.

I didn't bring up the wedding thing... Although I do believe what Art said (no reason to think he is making it up).

Chawks is in the know and has also alluded to there being a little something there.

I know a guy who is very very close with some doggies guys... Word from him/them is consistent with what others have said.

It doesn't bother me... All we can do is hope all is good and Smith plays good footy (I respect he puts in on the track and always trying to get better).

We see the occasional 2-second clip of him training or taking a pic here and there... If that makes people think all is good then that's ok (at the very least we know he is fit).

No club has perfect harmony with the entire squad (well I doubt they do) so I just hope this is the norm and in time we aren't talking about something more.

I'm pumped to see Smith play. Fingers crossed he will be a great recruit for many years to come.

I don't doubt he is a little different though and might not be every player's cup of tea... They can work around it.
 
Everything looks a bazillion % good if you only go off what you see then just about all the time.

I didn't bring up the wedding thing... Although I do believe what Art said (no reason to think he is making it up).

Chawks is in the know and has also alluded to there being a little something there.

I know a guy who is very very close with some doggies guys... Word from him/them is consistent with what others have said.

It doesn't bother me... All we can do is hope all is good and Smith plays good footy (I respect he puts in on the track and always trying to get better).

We see the occasional 2-second clip of him training or taking a pic here and there... If that makes people think all is good then that's ok.

No club has perfect harmony with the entire squad (well I doubt they do) so I just hope this is the norm and in time we aren't talking about something more.

I'm pumped to see Smith play. Fingers crossed he will be a great recruit for many years to come.

I don't doubt he is a little different though and might not be every player's cup of tea... They can work around it.
What I'm saying is that even "I don't like Smith's comment or body language there" (on the track, or a presser, or whatever else) is still a thousand times more meritorious than what we've just discussed.

I get it, we want to find things early and it's a long off season. We might even want to discover a few troubling areas to ruminate over. But why not endeavour to locate better source material, or else it just looks like a treasure hunt for the biggest reaches.
 

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Poor COS "chasing" Holmes at the 2:12mins into the above video lol.


COS didn't stand a chance....... DB at 1:51 in 'below linked video' of the Port vs Geelong 2024 Qualifying Final highlights we see Zak Butters desperately chasing Max Holmes all to no avail, so COS is in good company. But it wouldn't surprise me at all that over the coming decade or so that there'll be more than one opposition player pulling a hammy chasing this speed phenomenon that is Max Holmes. Reckon in all my years of watching footy Max is the most natural sprinting athlete that I've seen, it's effortless the power his able to accelerate and maintain at a incredible 'high speed'.

The guy's a 'jet' and whoever was initially responsible for identifying and recruiting him deserves a gold medal and it was also a brilliant and brave call by Danger going back sometime ago now that he stated that this guy will be like another Chris Judd because by the end of Max's playing days he won't be too far of the mark.... mind you there is only one Chris Judd, what a player but if Max can end up 80 to 85% of the player that Chris was, then I'd be over the moon as would all Cats fans and..... GO CATS !!!

 
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Everything looks a bazillion % good if you only go off what you see then just about all the time.

I didn't bring up the wedding thing... Although I do believe what Art said (no reason to think he is making it up).

Chawks is in the know and has also alluded to there being a little something there.

I know a guy who is very very close with some doggies guys... Word from him/them is consistent with what others have said.

It doesn't bother me... All we can do is hope all is good and Smith plays good footy (I respect he puts in on the track and always trying to get better).

We see the occasional 2-second clip of him training or taking a pic here and there... If that makes people think all is good then that's ok (at the very least we know he is fit).

No club has perfect harmony with the entire squad (well I doubt they do) so I just hope this is the norm and in time we aren't talking about something more.

I'm pumped to see Smith play. Fingers crossed he will be a great recruit for many years to come.

I don't doubt he is a little different though and might not be every player's cup of tea... They can work around it.

Excellent post DB but I'd also like to add that Chris Scott is a very different coach to Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge, as Bevo can be known to have low tolerance levels if he sees things a little differently or is under the heat, as where with Chris.... he's really matured over the years as a coach, to the point where I now have the utmost confidence in him to do most things exceptionally well 98% of the time and if anybody is going to get the best out of Bailey Smith it will be Chris Scott, similar to Blighty with Gazza Snr.
 
I think Menzel was a case of the damage being done. Sure, most players bounce back after 1 ACL...but 4? Even then, he kicked 33 goals in 18 games in 2016 and 40 goals in 19 games in 2017 - bloody good numbers for someone who was limited.

I get a little sad whenever his name's mentioned, of all the "what ifs...", him having healthy knees is probably one of the bigger ones (at least for our club).

Do you remember when Dangerfield was being discussed very early on his career as he looked like being the 'next big thing and Menzel was brought up as a straight swap, or something along those lines . . . not one poster would consider it as Menzel's trajectory was going to be that high 🙁
 
Ok, quiet times...
A team of strange ones

Please add to these

Adelaide- Nigel Smart
Brisbane- Jason Akermanis
Carlton- Doull, Gould, Percy, Tommy Alvin, Diesel
Collingwood- Fabulous Phil, Kink, Heretier Lumumba
Essendon- Leon Baker, Van der Haar
Footscray- Hawkins, Stringer
Freo- Ballantyne, Waterhouse
Geelong- Lindner, Newman, Bos, Rooke, Ablett, NAblett, Scarlett
Hawthorn- Dipper, Brereton, Don Scott
Melbourne- Wacko Jacko, Allen Jakovich, Farmer
North- Mick Nolan, Krakoeurs
Richmond- Hunt, Martin, KB
Port- Tredrea, Kane Cornes
Swans- Capper, Kirk, Carter
StKilda- Big Carl, Robbie Muir, Sidebottom, , Gehrig, Kosi
WCE- Karl Langdon, Cousins, Kerr
GWS- Toby, Tom Boyd

FB-Nigel(Not So)Smart, Matthew Scarlett, Martin Pike
HBF-John Gould, Bruce Doull, Mark Bos,
C-Doug Hawkins, Leon Baker, Dipper
HFF- Ablett snr, Paul Van Der Haar, Akermanis
FF-Jeff Farmer, Wacko Jacko, Fabulous Phil Carman
R-Sam Newman, Dusty Martin, Ben Cousins
i/c Jarrad Rooke, NAblett, Percy Jones, Dermott


Coach- Bomber Thompson
 
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Excellent post DB but I'd also like to add that Chris Scott is a very different coach to Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge, as Bevo can be known to have low tolerance levels if he sees things a little differently or is under the heat, as where with Chris.... he's really matured over the years as a coach, to the point where I now have the utmost confidence in him to do most things exceptionally well 98% of the time and if anybody is going to get the best out of Bailey Smith it will be Chris Scott, similar to Blighty with Gazza Snr.
Spot on, its a clean slate and a new environment.

"My uncle's gardener's masseuse works with the GFC and said Smith double dipped a chip on his first day" doesn't quite cut it for me to be judge, jury and executioner. But we all live by different standards and I expect simple boredom or anxiety are what get most people carried away.
 
Spot on, its a clean slate and a new environment.

"My uncle's gardener's masseuse works with the GFC and said Smith double dipped a chip on his first day" doesn't quite cut it for me to be judge, jury and executioner. But we all live by different standards and I expect simple boredom or anxiety are what get most people carried away.

The frailties, insecurities, boredom, anxieties and the sense of worthlessness of one's minds can lead anyone of us down a very slippery slope, thus making are our minds even more vulnerable than what it already has to deal with. A few of the delusional Tiger trolls would probably be a good case of 'exhibit one'. Can you just imagine Mr Meow: how unbearable their lives would have been if they not had their triple repeat, goodness even with their triple repeat and lack of success before and since has some of them tipping over the edge and unbearable, thus becoming completely disillusioned with reality. This is where you have to give some credence to the likes of St.Kilda supporters with one flag 'ever', if that happened to some Tiger supporters they would been in straight-jackets long ago and been off with the fairies such are the insecurities of the their minds.
 
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Everything looks a bazillion % good if you only go off what you see then just about all the time.

I didn't bring up the wedding thing... Although I do believe what Art said (no reason to think he is making it up).

Chawks is in the know and has also alluded to there being a little something there.

I know a guy who is very very close with some doggies guys... Word from him/them is consistent with what others have said.

It doesn't bother me... All we can do is hope all is good and Smith plays good footy (I respect he puts in on the track and always trying to get better).

We see the occasional 2-second clip of him training or taking a pic here and there... If that makes people think all is good then that's ok (at the very least we know he is fit).

No club has perfect harmony with the entire squad (well I doubt they do) so I just hope this is the norm and in time we aren't talking about something more.

I'm pumped to see Smith play. Fingers crossed he will be a great recruit for many years to come.

I don't doubt he is a little different though and might not be every player's cup of tea... They can work around it.
I'm really keen to see him play, too. As for the gossip: people mature. And this is a chance for him to reset and grow into a new version of himself - immersed in a different culture, surrounded by different team-mates, guided by level-headed legends like Dangerfield, overseen by quality coaches like Chris Scott. If he can't pull it together, so be it. But I reckon our club and this moment are as good a chance as he'll get. And I'm hopeful and excited to see how it all plays out.
 

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