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[Blue and Blue]

Get rid of all constantly injury prone players

I more or less agree and this perpetually injured group of players we've had for so long is far more a factor than the staff in charge of them. And undoubtedly imo it is mostly down to bad luck.

But then Docherty should be gone way back and we would never have kept Dean Rice.
So it seems one size does not fit all, and likely never will.

 

[Soapy V]

Not sure why Durdin is any different to the other consistently injured players we let go.
Time to move on from Durdin and give someone else a opportunity, unlikely at this stage of his career that is going to change relating to injury and games played at senior level.

Maybe they think they can solve the issue (like Cerra) and there is no better options. I am sure they have their reasons

 

[Blue Flame]

Get rid of all constantly injury prone players

Cue Newman doing gentle laps of Princes Park on his own

 

[majesticseacapt]

Not sure why Durdin is any different to the other consistently injured players we let go.
Time to move on from Durdin and give someone else a opportunity, unlikely at this stage of his career that is going to change relating to injury and games played at senior level.

I don't think it's as simple as that.. we are short on KPD and imagine if Weitering goes down.. I personally think keeping Durdin is worth it until we are able to fill that list spot with someone else who is depth for KPD.

I'd rather have some insurance than no insurance.

 

[Arr0w]

I more or less agree and this perpetually injured group of players we've had for so long is far more a factor than the staff in charge of them. And undoubtedly imo it is mostly down to bad luck.

But then Docherty should be gone way back and we would never have kept Dean Rice.
So it seems one size does not fit all, and likely never will.

Doc has had ACLs, I wouldn't describe that as injury prone like the departed players, who had a number of different injuries over a longer period

 

[Soapy V]

I don't think it's as simple as that.. we are short on KPD and imagine if Weitering goes down.. I personally think keeping Durdin is worth it until we are able to fill that list spot with someone else who is depth for KPD.

I'd rather have some insurance than no insurance.

The issue for us wasn't one or two injured players. We have several and it caused issues. Every list has some injured players. We have moved on Marchbank Martin Cuningham M.Carroll? and have got back Silvagni & Docherty from long term injuries. Also, a new HP person

Most agree we need another big KPD even if for a year until we find someone. We need a Weitering back up. We are trialing DGB, Phillips, Durdin, McMahon and maybe looking at others?

Durdin is defintely the "type" the club wants and he is very popular and they believe in his ability. Injury is the issue. IF and it's a big IF, he can get through the pre season (which would be a improvement) then he may be worth the risk as a "break glass" option. If he goes down again we may then retire him and bring in someone like Phillips mid season?

Who knows what we will do, but there are many scenarios and a lot to happen yet. IMO some of the reactions here defy logic

 

[macky99]

Maybe they think they can solve the issue (like Cerra) and there is no better options. I am sure they have their reasons

Cerra is a proven talent, Durdin is not.
How many games he has played, a couple of games in 2.5 years, the two Ex Hawthorn players are younger and deserve another opportunity.

Young is ahead of Durdin so makes sense to give one of the other two boys the opportunity.

 

[Soapy V]

Cerra is a proven talent, Durdin is not.
How many games he has played, a couple of games in 2.5 years, the two Ex Hawthorn players are younger and deserve another opportunity.

Young is ahead of Durdin so makes sense to give one of the other two boys the opportunity.

Irrelevant to topic. I was highlighting how Cerra has apparently fixed injury issues and maybe they think Durdin can do the same?

Why do the Ex Hawthorn players "deserve" another opportunity ahead of anyone else?

 

[macky99]

Irrelevant to topic. I was highlighting how Cerra has apparently fixed injury issues and maybe they think Durdin can do the same?

Why do the Ex Hawthorn players "deserve" another opportunity ahead of anyone else?

Durdin has been in the system a long period, again he is injury prone and has done very little at senior level.
Time to move on and give another player who are both younger the opportunity.
lt makes no sense we let more talented injury prone players go and keep Durdin very inconsistent approach.

 

[gbatman]

Young is our Weitering backup but perhaps we don't see him as good enough. I think if Young could get stronger then perhaps he could improve his game.

Just off the top of my head, I don't think there are any strong sides with two really big/good key forwards especially now Hawkins and Daniher have retired. SO our second defender really doesn't have to be super tall. Teams are moving away from being too tall and having third tall forwards who are ruckmen sized.

I think the second tall forward is going to be a fairly mobile type and probably not super tall. More like Curnow than McKay. So Haynes and probably Silvagni fit the bill there. It's important that we keep McGovern as the 3rd tallest defender so he has the freedom to play more of a running game.

I get the impression we would like Durdin to "come good" but I am not confident. The others aren't really big key defenders so I am not sure they will come in as Weitering backup.

I am not excited about any of our train on players and who we bring in to back Weitering up. I don't think any will get games unless Weitering or Haynes are injured. Perhaps DGB is more backup for someone like Haynes.

Will be interesting to see who we select.

 

[Soapy V]

Durdin has been in the system a long period, again he is injury prone and has done very little at senior level.
Time to move on and give another player who are both younger the opportunity.
lt makes no sense we let more talented injury prone players go and keep Durdin very inconsistent approach.

Your opinion. No problem

I'm just looking at all sides and trying to work out clubs thinking on this. The role Durdin "may" fill is a real need. The others we let go can be covered easily

You say "Younger". We brought in O'Farrell (18), have Lemmey (20) Young (25). Durdin is only 28, Phillips is 25. We are in the window and our time is now. Filling one spot with a needs no matter what the age isn't a bad thing

 

[Blue__Balls]

The issue for us wasn't one or two injured players. We have several and it caused issues. Every list has some injured players. We have moved on Marchbank Martin Cuningham M.Carroll? and have got back Silvagni & Docherty from long term injuries. Also, a new HP person

Most agree we need another big KPD even if for a year until we find someone. We need a Weitering back up. We are trialing DGB, Phillips, Durdin, McMahon and maybe looking at others?

Durdin is defintely the "type" the club wants and he is very popular and they believe in his ability. Injury is the issue. IF and it's a big IF, he can get through the pre season (which would be a improvement) then he may be worth the risk as a "break glass" option. If he goes down again we may then retire him and bring in someone like Phillips mid season?

Who knows what we will do, but there are many scenarios and a lot to happen yet. IMO some of the reactions here defy logic

Comfortable with that as long as Durdin's not being nursed through preseason.

No point taking the gently gently approach now, only for him to fall in a heap as soon as the intensity lifts. He should be flogged through his hardest preseason ever, and if his body holds up then we can put some trust in it for season 2025.

 

[Arr0w]

Comfortable with that as long as Durdin's not being nursed through preseason.

No point taking the gently gently approach now, only for him to fall in a heap as soon as the intensity lifts. He should be flogged through his hardest preseason ever, and if his body holds up then we can put some trust in it for season 2025.

Completely agree with this approach

Personally, I'd add Phillips to the list ahead of Durdin, but I understand the club trialing a number of options

 

[Aphrodite]

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[Blue and Blue]

Doc has had ACLs, I wouldn't describe that as injury prone like the departed players, who had a number of different injuries over a longer period

Yes Ricey also...I was just being a rascal

 

[JuddgementDay]

One thing I would like to see is McKay learning how to stay on his feet - he goes down too easily for a big strong player

 

[ctwenty1]

One thing I would like to see is McKay learning how to stay on his feet - he goes down too easily for a big strong player

His centre of gravity is too high off the ground

Easy to topple

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Arr0w]

Let's hope no one pops a shoulder like Cuners, during those drills

 

[choo]

Was Sam Durdin injury prone in Adelaide?


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[marcmurphy3]

Was Sam Durdin injury prone in Adelaide?


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Not in the SANFL but he was at North Melbourne.

 

[ianh]

Don't think I've ever seen S. Durdin actually train in any open training session. Just runs slow laps.

Have you seen him in a game? You are describing the very definition of "train as you play". Just joking, I am a fan of big Durds if he can get his body right but unfortunately that is a HUGE if.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

SDurds reminds me of OMac, both have bodies that are suitable for VFL level loads.
But when training/game speed is increased to AFL levels they're not up to it anymore.

Both blokes would have been fine backups/2nd KPD for Weiters...but it's time to look at other options.

 

[WildmanOfCarlton]

Decided to go along again today, having found where the team trained last Friday.

I see the club posted another of those training in 60 videos before I managed to post this, if you look closely the training tops were white when turned inside out, instead of orange today.

Unfortunately I didn't do a head count so I'm not sure if anyone was missing, but suspect Cincotta was missing again.

Cottrell walked past me a couple of times but didn't go out on the training track, I did notice Fantasia was training on his own on a second ground next to the building. He eventually came on to the main training ground when the did a drill on both grounds, but basically was kicking at goal up one end.

Noticed that Cripps had a shoulder strapped, as did Corey Durdin (still wearing the yellow hat), Olli Hollands had a yellow hat on too, but was being tackled so maybe that doesn't mean not to be tackled.

I still think there is a bit of a re-hab group with Silvagni, Acres, Duffy, McGovern and Durdin joining in for some drills or being the end target in some drills, but not fully joining in training.

After warming up one they split into two groups and one played soccer, while the other group caught tennis balls belted as high as possible into the air.

The players were called out to catch the ball and lots of good natured cheering and ribbing took place if the ball was caught or dropped.

The next drill was the one at the start of the video, bibs were given to one group the tacklers and the others were trying to take and stand in the tackle, then dish it off to the others.

Of course Cripps excelled at this, using the bibs allowed them to swap in new tacklers and keep the pressure up.

Unlike Friday where they did running at the end of the session, today they did running between the drills.

Running around the boundary anti-clock wise, then turning and going back the other way, before moving on to the next drill.

They divided into forward, mids and defenders - so for the players there has been talk about - Kemp was with the forwards, Newman and Ollie with the defenders.

Inside an area marked out by cones, one group practiced moving the ball while the others put pressure on them.

Not sure being forward, mids or defenders matters much, Pitto and O'Keffee did some crash tackling of a big tackle bag during this drill and while the majority did the running.

They then split into two big groups and practiced ball movement on the whole ground, one group went to the ground Fantasia was running on for this drill.

It looked to me like they were trying to practice getting through a zone defence, there were more attackers than defenders.

Weitering managed to turn the ball over at one stage as a defender and kick a goal which they all celebrated. But this was the only time the defenders managed to stop the ball movement, more running after this drill.

They completed a similar drill in a number of smaller groups on the main ground, followed by more running.

Around this time some players started to leave the track and head off, Acres, Charlie and Walshy left together, while SOS and TDK left around this time too.

They did some wrestling activities next, pairing up and shoulder blocked each other for a while before trying to push or knock their opponent over.

They followed this by including the ball with one player picking it up and another tackling him ball and all.

It pretty much wound up from there, with some players playing a reaction game with Hamill, others like Kemp did goal kicking.

I'm not planning to go to Friday's open session, hopefully someone who does and can give us a report.

It's not the greatest ground to watch footy at one side slopes away from the fence and only one flank provides a bit of height to see the ground.

There is some road works being done between the road running around the Uni and the sports area.

Hopefully the club is prepared for a crowd of kids, like has turned out at recent open training sessions and all the extra traffic, that will go along with it.

 

[JustOneTime]

History says Sam D breaks down at the highest load/AFL intensity. Think he might be able to cope at a lower level as he did in SANFL.

I'd be looking elsewhere based on a couple of games over 3 seasons. We don't need a world beater - we need a big potato to sit in packs and punch for various games/matchups. I don't think Haynes will cope with that unfamiliar role (light bodied interceptor)

Interestingly, while Austin was at the dogs, and now at the blues, hasn't put much value in tall defenders; and at Carlton, a stoppage tall defender. Will see if it is an impact over this season. Was last season.