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Training 2025 Pre-Season Training - reports, pics etc
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Other than drarftess, players look like a clone army. Builds are similar; lean and strong. No real outliers at either end of the physical spectrum
Then there is Stringer… Jeez!
Then there is Stringer… Jeez!
He was a very good runner when he came to us Murph.
Thanks Windows. Had never heard it before.
Good turnout from our senior players, mostly defenders by the look of it.
Looks like the forwards had a Ferris Bueller’s day off.
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I heard Charlie had clammy hands and Harry was spotted at 31 Flavours last night...
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Power ratings is drive through the legs to drive through tackles and to stop someone if they try and run through you. Think rugby union players hitting a tackle and driving forward in the tackle.
Strength has nothing to do with ratings. It's just strength. It helps you stick tackles, fend other players off, and hold your ground in a marking contest. How often did we see our players get tossed out of a marking contest.
Having everyone on a strength and power regime is good. These guys are all fit already. They run every day. I can't wait to see them at the start of the season.
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Don't want to open up those old AR discussions. Was painful enough at the time. Glad to hear Inness has such a different focus. Fingers crossed for a different approach - especially with someone like Cerra who is way too young to be getting the volume of soft tissue injuries he gets.
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Thanks for your insights Soapy; much appreciated! I have a background in strength and conditioning and have wondered for sometime if Russell had too much of a focus on endurance and not enough on power and strength, looking at our list’s general build and lack of burst/speed. His personal pursuits were/are distance running… seemed hellbent on players being lean, particularly injury prone ones. Obviously there is a fine balance between being too heavy with muscle mass and not being able to cover enough ground. Also, if muscle mass is put on too quickly, players’ bodies may become overly stressed with the sudden added weight to carry when doing so much running - legs, feet, pelvis and lower spine. Cottrell reportedly added a lot of weight (muscle) during the last preseason and ended up with navicular stress reaction in his left foot…
If you compare our players’ body shapes to teams like Geelong there has been a stark difference. Iness’ influence will hopefully be transformational on our style of play and our perceived lack of speed. I wonder if we have had a highly specialised sprint and strength coach? Why do players such as Cripps and Big H need to seek sprint coaches outside of our club???
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He didn’t and yes he was.
But he failed to succeed in managing players who were injury prone - or became injury prone - and that ultimately - and rightfully - cost him his job.
Inness will be different but let’s not jump to the conclusion about his appointment making us better just yet. He has a clean slate, something Russell was never afforded.
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Hey bigblueboy, curious to know what evidence there is for Russell not beginning with a ‘clean slate’? Maybe Russell WAS perceived by many in the industry to be the best in the business sometime ago.
Yep, easiest way to define it is
Strength- is static/fixed, the amount of force.
Power- is fluid/dynamic it’s the application of strength thru movement.
Eg having a tree trunk leg is strength - it’s a base it doesn’t actually do anything.
Technique, rotational force, length of lever etc to use the tree trunk to kick shit out of a footy is power.
Using the tackle example, you can be strong as hell, but if u don’t have power to activate the effort/create resistance your getting crunched/not sticking a tackle as the strength is not applied as force (power).
Excited about the new training program, sticking/breaking that 1st tackle IMO is close to the most important part of the modern game.
Trusting your team mate to stick that tackle is key, if u don’t, you overcommit to the play, get to close & good opposition cuts u to shreds on overlap/out number.
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If you have the power to stand in a tackle, the opposition has to commit a second player to the tackle which frees up one of your team mates and if you have the strength behind you, you should be able to get the ball out to that team mate who is clear.
Hopefully the coaches are going to be drilling this in addition to Innes doing power development,
If you want to know what power is... it's this.
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Power is really strength x speed or more scientifically: Power (W) = force (N) × velocity (m/s)
In the combine, tests of power are vertical leap and 20m sprint.
Olympic weightlifting is a sport which requires enormous power because it requires lifting very heavy weights at tremendous velocity. You’d want someone with a very strong background in this sport advising/overseeing our players, as part of our strength and conditioning program. The lifts are very technical.
It’s been quite well documented that Olympic weight lifters have huge vertical leaps and are extremely quick over 20m sprints.
In the combine, tests of power are vertical leap and 20m sprint.
Olympic weightlifting is a sport which requires enormous power because it requires lifting very heavy weights at tremendous velocity. You’d want someone with a very strong background in this sport advising/overseeing our players, as part of our strength and conditioning program. The lifts are very technical.
It’s been quite well documented that Olympic weight lifters have huge vertical leaps and are extremely quick over 20m sprints.
Resurfacing happening after the AFLW Grand Final
Lord oh Lord. If this kid has improved his tank, he could displace George as soon as early-2025. Can't discount how a Lord-Jagga combo would complement us with their chemistry over the next 10+.
Huge
Who signed off on OHS for this stunt?
As long as he’s not any slower than he was that’s great
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Way more important recruit than anyone we’ve picked up since the season finished, if Innes can turn around the schemmozzle that was high performance then we are ready to really compete for flags
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Absolutely 100%.
I was and am a massive fan of us getting Jagga, but if Innes' methods work, Jaggas acquisition is number 2 in importance to me. Innes number 1.
His appointment, if correct, will give us the biggest boost we can get, towards our next flag, imo.
Far more important than the addition of any one player.
GW's appointment would also be up there too.
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Like Malthouse, Pagan etc, sometimes you're revered based on previous reputation and you get too comfortable being comfortable and don't adapt with change.
Also sometimes it's a bit of luck, you get a charge of players who just click well with your methodologies and they work well, and when tried on another group it falls in a heap because your lack of willing to change MO. Pagan didn't have a Carey with us, Mick tried his (or Buckleys) Pies 2010/11 gameplan to send us back a peg as we should of been finalists easy and not scrape in thanks to *.
Evel Knievel..
Appreciate this info Soapy. Fascinating how what is old is new! https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/849280/russell-hardest-pre-season-program-to-date
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