Teams 2025 Rate My Pre-Season Team

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[marcmurphy3]

1st Draft
May switch Daicos to another mid. Nervous about the bye but he is the best value in that range. Want LDU but nervous about picking to many Roos. Maybe I grab Flanders for the better bye and flexibility. Not sold on McKercher due to role but I like someone in that price range from a structure perspective. Pike will become Boyd.

 

[Choppers]

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1st Draft
May switch Daicos to another mid. Nervous about the bye but he is the best value in that range. Want LDU but nervous about picking to many Roos. Maybe I grab Flanders for the better bye and flexibility. Not sold on McKercher due to role but I like someone in that price range from a structure perspective. Pike will become Boyd.

I have Short at D3.....with Sheezel Clark at D1,2 ....shares the byes @12 13 14.....with Sinclair the Flex

 

[Pocket Aces]

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1st Draft
May switch Daicos to another mid. Nervous about the bye but he is the best value in that range. Want LDU but nervous about picking to many Roos. Maybe I grab Flanders for the better bye and flexibility. Not sold on McKercher due to role but I like someone in that price range from a structure perspective. Pike will become Boyd.

For an extra 17k you can get Butters who plays the extra game early. Think Daicos as a mid only is a very easy fade this year as a starting pick

 

[WaynesWorld19]

For an extra 17k you can get Butters who plays the extra game early. Think Daicos as a mid only is a very easy fade this year as a starting pick

Yep, that's what I've done as well

I see some teams choosing Sheezel and fading Bont .....on risk alone shouldn't coaches go Bont over Sheezel

 

[Pocket Aces]

Yep, that's what I've done as well

I see some teams choosing Sheezel and fading Bont .....on risk alone shouldn't coaches go Bont over Sheezel

Different positions though as Sheezel looks like D1 this year. You could make a discussion of Butters v Bont.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

 

[MacStradbroke]

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Like the Parish selection. Iif he gets through preseason in one piece he will be hard to ignore at that price. The footy does follow him when he’s up and about. Discount v calf.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Like the Parish selection. Iif he gets through preseason in one piece he will be hard to ignore at that price. The footy does follow him when he’s up and about. Discount v calf.

Personally I'll have no problem ignoring Parish. Injury prone + early bye

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Like the Parish selection. Iif he gets through preseason in one piece he will be hard to ignore at that price. The footy does follow him when he’s up and about. Discount v calf.

I have never owned Parish before but I do think that if he has a full pre-season and can fully be over his soft tissue injuries he could be a bargain. I'm willing to a risk and start both Parish & Oliver for a combined $932k which could be 2 x 110+premos

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Personally I'll have no problem ignoring Parish. Injury prone + early bye

Round 4 is the least worst of the early bye rounds.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Round 4 is the least worst of the early bye rounds.

So? He's already playing one less game and has played 2/9 full seasons.

He might make you some money, but you WILL have to trade him at some point.

 

[gutsroy]

Alright, you larrikins, Scoops has got an absolute banger of a firestarter, a veritable hand grenade of strategic significance to throw into the mix.

23 scorers into 22 scores with the flex:

Will you be trying to get to 23 legit premos with bona fides, 21 and then two up and down types you throw at the final scoring spot each week? 22 and a supa cheap discounted type of an injury or whatever just to have that 23rd bloke in a pinch?


Still sticking with investing only.in the on-field 22 (with the only difference being you flick F6 for an M/R/D from the flex spot)?

Was thinking it might legitimize going that 23rd legit premo, but thinking about it a bit more, every dollar spent outside the core 22 is honestly a dollar wasted.

Fall.into that trap far too often myself, does the flex really change that? Not sure it does a heap.

 

[gutsroy]

Just on Parish:
Had a brief look the other day and had him in for a hot minute, but he consistently has soft tissue issues. If he were 50k cheaper or so, you'd give it more thought.
If you time your run, he'll be handy, just a question of if / when he blows a gasket

 

[gutsroy]

rocker_oz33 Scoops tagging back out.
These characters need a firm hand.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Alright, you larrikins, Scoops has got an absolute banger of a firestarter, a veritable hand grenade of strategic significance to throw into the mix.

23 scorers into 22 scores with the flex:

Will you be trying to get to 23 legit premos with bona fides, 21 and then two up and down types you throw at the final scoring spot each week? 22 and a supa cheap discounted type of an injury or whatever just to have that 23rd bloke in a pinch?
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Still sticking with investing only.in the on-field 22 (with the only difference being you flick F6 for an M/R/D from the flex spot)?

Was thinking it might legitimize going that 23rd legit premo, but thinking about it a bit more, every dollar spent outside the core 22 is honestly a dollar wasted.

Fall.into that trap far too often myself, does the flex really change that? Not sure it does a heap.

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23 premo's has been the goal for a few years imo, with the extra trades.

Doesn't mean we all get there though, shit happens. Probably 24 should be the goal now, but as you say the worry is cutting corners for the last few. The trick is picking off all the correct value options through the year. Kents that do that will be top 1K.

IMO the trap is sideways trading early doors, easy to justify, often you are better holding over the season though. How many times would 1 or 2 more trades in round 17 make a bigger difference than sideways trading a slow starting premo in round 6 (who inevitably finds form shortly after)?

 

[gutsroy]

23 premo's has been the goal for a few years imo, with the extra trades.

Doesn't mean we all get there though, shit happens. Probably 24 should be the goal now, but as you say the worry is cutting corners for the last few. The trick is picking off all the correct value options through the year. Kents that do they will be top 1K.

IMO the trap is sideways trading early doors, easy to justify, often you are better holding over the season though. How many times would 1 or 2 more trades in round 17 make a bigger difference than sideways trading a slow starting premo in round 6 (who inevitably finds form shortly after)?

Scoops loves the strategy, although he can't help but feel that Scoopsmorrow is not matching Scoops' energy, the out and out passion that Scoops is bringing to the preseason table.


Nonetheless, as the sober yin to Scoops' raging yang...


Scoops off to get on the Ayahuasca Aaron Rodgers style. (Might be up there with the biggest w***ers of all time,.that bloke. Jason Akermanis areas)

 

[gutsroy]

23 premo's has been the goal for a few years imo, with the extra trades.

Doesn't mean we all get there though, shit happens. Probably 24 should be the goal now, but as you say the worry is cutting corners for the last few. The trick is picking off all the correct value options through the year. Kents that do that will be top 1K.

IMO the trap is sideways trading early doors, easy to justify, often you are better holding over the season though. How many times would 1 or 2 more trades in round 17 make a bigger difference than sideways trading a slow starting premo in round 6 (who inevitably finds form shortly after)?

On a serious note, first thought was 24, but reckon pushing for 24 is ultimately going too hard into distributing the cash, ends up diluting the on-field output most of the time, but as you say, kind of have to jump.on what you reckon are the value options as they present and see as you go.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Scoops loves the strategy, although he can't help but feel that Scoopsmorrow is not matching Scoops' energy, the out and out passion that Scoops is bringing to the preseason table.
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Nonetheless, as the sober yin to Scoops' raging yang...
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Scoops off to get on the Ayahuasca Aaron Rodgers style. (Might be up there with the biggest w***ers of all time,.that bloke. Jason Akermanis areas)

Genuinely no idea about this Scoops. I have heard of Rodgers, but I'm lost after lol.

On a serious note, first thought was 24, but reckon pushing for 24 is ultimately going too hard into distributing the cash, ends up diluting the on-field output most of the time, but as you say, kind of have to jump.on what you reckon are the value options as they present and see as you go.

24 is doable imo, but you need to get almost everything right. Assuming the rookies do as well as last year that is.

 

[rocker_oz33]

rocker_oz33 Scoops tagging back out.
These characters need a firm hand.
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What they doing ...below.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Maybe something like this, no idea about rookies though but they’ll fall into place closer to round 0/1

 

[WaynesWorld19]

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Maybe something like this, no idea about rookies though but they’ll fall into place closer to round 0/1

Not sure with Sicily ....with Cashier Dear out in the short term, I can see him being thrown fwd, where he's more a shock move rather than FT fwd

I didn't realise till yesterday, that both Xerri and TDK have the same horrible R12 Bye .....is it an issue ? ...well, yeas the Flex helps in theory, but if others don't have both Rucks out, it still puts you behind the 8-ball

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

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So I'm chopping and changing a lot trying to tweak the side. I'm more concerned with the structural side of things over the exact personnel, though in some cases the personnel inform the structure; because sometimes there's no equivilent player at the same price. Doing this months from the start of the season is a big exercise in futility.

The biggest hurdle I need to address is building a team from the bottom up. So many seasons I start with overvaluing my bottom half-dozen players who just clog my bench in the magoos and don't make more than $50k, so I want my bench to be consistently playing this year. Even if they average about 50; it's fine if they keep motoring along with green dots. I think I've done okay at this early stage balancing bench JS and scoring potential.

I won't be going line by line, instead I'll be going by predicted value strata.

Potentially Overpriced:

Sheezel.

So I've been reluctant to overspend anywhere in the team, but the question is, can you always pick at value? Sheezel is probably my only solid C choice early on, even if he could be 2-3 ppg overpriced.

Fairly Priced:

Clark, LDU, JHF, Rankine.

If these players all finished between +/- 2.5 ppg of their starting price I wouldn't be surprised. People well overestimate how many points a player can average overall. And some might rightfully point out that picking someone like LDU isn't worth it if I think he's going to average 110. But I'd say that the story would change if I was bullish on him going 115-120. The other side of the coin is that the players going 115-120 have more risk of dropping, so a solid 110 option at fair starting value isn't so bad. The other thing is that overall average doesn't matter, what matters is the price one pays and the average in one's team. The other issue is structure. Rankine was my last picked 'premium' but I think he keeps my best 23 extremely solid.

Potential Value Keepers:

NWM, Petracca, Dawson, Oliver, TDK, Macrae, B. Smith.

So these players go between a few ppg of upside, potential list cloggers to potential best of line picks at massive discount. If the season averages of these players ended up being 105, 110, 110, 110, 110, 95, 100 that would be a decent return to me.

Potential Value Keepers with Cash Cow upside.

Mills, Coleman, Flynn, Philipou, Daniel.

Basically the same as above but with the exit of potentially being able to cash them in if they don't work. On the flip side, if they fail early, a complete restructure could be extremely costly.

Cash Cows: 14

Now is this the best strategy? How many top of the line players should one have, even if they overspend. How many top of the line players from 2024 will end up being top of line in 2025. Who will cruise at $630k+ for the whole season? Who will cruise at $630k for the first quarter/third/half of the season before crashing and burning everyone who picked them. Who will go the other way?

I wanted to go a full value side with literally millions in the bank but I calculated I had to average something like 2600 ppr from Round 7 to have a chance of winning overall; even if my side was the absolute best in the comp by the end of upgrade season there's no way I could guarantee that happening, even if I managed to get 25-26 gun premiums, I'd still be relying on nailing fielding choices and there's diminishing returns on the value of each premium beyond a full side. Maybe a strategy like that could still work for hunting late season weekly prizes or cash leagues though; always buying at value and never spending over $550k, for instance. But also, I think it's important to remember not spend cash just because one has it. I always forget that rule.

Love the way this team is set up. I think you’re still probably one captain option short, need to have a couple of options early.

 

[VainGlorious]

On a serious note, first thought was 24, but reckon pushing for 24 is ultimately going too hard into distributing the cash, ends up diluting the on-field output most of the time, but as you say, kind of have to jump.on what you reckon are the value options as they present and see as you go.

I’ve tried to have extra “premos” or players capable of premo-type scoring for a long time now.

I thought I saw value in the three spuds that ended up being my 23/24/25th players last season and I guess it worked to an extent, but it definitely diluted the cash spent on field somewhat.

 

[VainGlorious]

I have never owned Parish before but I do think that if he has a full pre-season and can fully be over his soft tissue injuries he could be a bargain. I'm willing to a risk and start both Parish & Oliver for a combined $932k which could be 2 x 110+premos

He did have a three-season block with a fairly decent average, but only one of those were a full season.

If I were not already taking risks on other players then he’d be a consideration, albeit for a brief moment.

He’s less risk than a Cerra who has only had one decent year of SC scoring, but how many can you take?

I’m already toying with Short/Clarry/Cumming/Flynn types, not sure I want to add another burnt trade to the equation.

 

[VainGlorious]

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