List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[TradeDraft]

Could see Team chasing Ed as not Best 22 yet and seems bit on the Outer

 

[BillyElliott]

cant wait to see the back of Craig Kelly.

He's stating facts. Players are being offered big bucks, particularly FA's.

He's a much loved Pies player, we want him to stay.

At the end of the day, it's Bruz's future & choice to make.

 

[BillyElliott]

Could see Team chasing Ed as not Best 22 yet and seems bit on the Outer

Not on the outer if you listen to Fly. He's very much part of our future. He reiterated that today on sen.

 

[Bianconeri]

Not on the outer if you listen to Fly. He's very much part of our future. He reiterated that today on sen.

He’s not in the team so he’s on the outer regardless of what Fly says.

 

[BillyElliott]

He’s not in the team so he’s on the outer regardless of what Fly says.

There are a few players not in the team this week. Doesn't mean they're on the outer.

You can only select 23 & you pick for the roles required against the team you are playing.

 

[Tippy78]

Not on the outer if you listen to Fly. He's very much part of our future. He reiterated that today on sen.

There was a similar story with Fin last year if I recall? Loads of love for him early but he wasn’t best 22

 

[Bianconeri]

There are a few players not in the team this week. Doesn't mean they're on the outer.

You can only select 23 & you pick for the roles required against the team you are playing.

And anyone outside of that is either injured with a plan to come back or on the outer.

 

[sr36]

Could see Team chasing Ed as not Best 22 yet and seems bit on the Outer

I like those two journos, but there just isn't enough material for a weekly show. They just create stories.

 

[BillyElliott]

And anyone outside of that is either injured with a plan to come back or on the outer.

That's your choice of word. It's not mine or Fly's. He's very much part of our future & Fly has said he'd love to play him every week. Different horses for different courses.

 

[BillyElliott]

There was a similar story with Fin last year if I recall? Loads of love for him early but he wasn’t best 22

Unfortunately for Fin, he hasn't grasped his opportunity when selected as much as Ed has.

Allan shows much more promise & scope for improvement than Fin, imo.

 

[Bianconeri]

That's your choice of word.

Yes it is.

It's not mine or Fly's.

Also correct

He's very much part of our future

That’s a possibility and hopefully he makes it but loads of players who were “very much part of our future” went on to not amount to much.

& Fly has said he'd love to play him every week.

Looks like there are 23 other blokes he’d love to play more. Hence Allan being on the outer.

Different horses for different courses.

This here gets mentioned a lot but I’ve rarely seen it happen both in Buckley’s or Fly’s time as a coach. More often than not the coach just picks who the best 22/3 players are.

 

[Bianconeri]

Unfortunately for Fin, he hasn't grasped his opportunity when selected as much as Ed has.

Allan shows much more promise & scope for improvement than Fin, imo.

I agree Allan has shown more traits than Fin that he can make it but so far Ed hasn’t grasped any opportunity any better than Fin.

 

[BillyElliott]

I agree Allan has shown more traits than Fin that he can make it but so far Ed hasn’t grasped any opportunity any better than Fin.

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Allan has shown much more than Fin has.

 

[Bianconeri]

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Allan has shown much more than Fin has.

I agree with that.

Despite that Allan hasn’t grasped any opportunity to stay in the side better than Fin at this stage.

 

[BillyElliott]

I agree with that.

Despite that Allan hasn’t grasped any opportunity to stay in the side better than Fin at this stage.

 

[stormskye]

And anyone outside of that is either injured with a plan to come back or on the outer.

Is West on the outer? I view on the outer as an established player who’s not getting a game. I’d say kids in their first 2-3 years aren’t on the outer but pushing their case. That’s just me though

 

[sr36]

And anyone outside of that is either injured with a plan to come back or on the outer.

You need a squad. Ed's clearly part of the squad.

 

[SchuPie]

I like those two journos, but there just isn't enough material for a weekly show. They just create stories.

The story is the story now
It’s exhausting

 

[Go Woods]

Not on the outer if you listen to Fly. He's very much part of our future. He reiterated that today on sen.

Just play him then, stop fkg around and playing blokes like Sullivan ahead of him.

 

[Kappa]

There are a few players not in the team this week. Doesn't mean they're on the outer.

You can only select 23 & you pick for the roles required against the team you are playing.

Yep, and the coach doesn't rate him in the best 23, so he's currently on the outer.

 

[BillyElliott]

Yep, and the coach doesn't rate him in the best 23, so he's currently on the outer.

 

[Dtennent94]

I was sipping my lunch smoothie and pondering something…

The salary cap is obviously a limiter in managing a list and we know it’s fairly inflexible. Every club is moreorless paying their roster the same amount of money.

Then we have clubs like Geelong (and probably other clubs) giving their players non-cash financial aid.

I wonder what other strategies clubs have to garner an advantage over their rivals?

I was thinking about the fact that we can’t really pay players more past a point, but we can have them ‘work’ less. Maybe it was part of Nick’s contract that he got a longer pre-season? Maybe Mihochek has an RDO this week? Maybe some players are given ‘days off’ to work from home every so often - even if it amounted to a 5-day work week over the year?

Is the club allowed to provide other services which essentially buffer player salaries? Childcare? Provision of food? Buy the players appliances like TVs, laptops, phones and call it a necessary piece of work equipment?

 

[Jen2310]

I was sipping my lunch smoothie and pondering something…

The salary cap is obviously a limiter in managing a list and we know it’s fairly inflexible. Every club is moreorless paying their roster the same amount of money.

Then we have clubs like Geelong (and probably other clubs) giving their players non-cash financial aid.

I wonder what other strategies clubs have to garner an advantage over their rivals?

I was thinking about the fact that we can’t really pay players more past a point, but we can have them ‘work’ less. Maybe it was part of Nick’s contract that he got a longer pre-season? Maybe Mihochek has an RDO this week? Maybe some players are given ‘days off’ to work from home every so often - even if it amounted to a 5-day work week over the year?

Is the club allowed to provide other services which essentially buffer player salaries? Childcare? Provision of food? Buy the players appliances like TVs, laptops, phones and call it a necessary piece of work equipment?

Thats how local clubs sometimes buy players.
And Geelong with their farms.

 

[Dtennent94]

Thats how local clubs sometimes buy players.
And Geelong with their farms.

Do AFL clubs do it? Can they?

With our financial situation, surely we can afford the best chefs and babysitters?

Maybe the club have a pre-paid Uber Gold or whatever account that all players have access to save on transport expenses?

 

[Jen2310]

Do AFL clubs do it? Can they?

With our financial situation, surely we can afford the best chefs and babysitters?

Maybe the club have a pre-paid Uber Gold or whatever account that all players have access to save on transport expenses?

I don't imagine so. I can't imagine the afl looking kindly at that sort of thing.
I think the players can afford that sort of thing themselves with what they get paid.