List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[SchuPie]

That would likely a one off. That only worked because there was players connected to the deal. Unlikely that would happen again.

True but you never know when (for example)

• a player’s partner needs to move for work so player leaves
• like mentioned, maybe a senior player wants diff opportunities
• we win a flag and a player thinks they have achieved all they want in Melbs and wants to move north to play for pure love of game (…and $$$)
• instead of trading 2026 first, we trade 2027 first

 

[Jen2310]

True but you never know when (for example)

• a player’s partner needs to move for work so player leaves
• like mentioned, maybe a senior player wants diff opportunities
• we win a flag and a player thinks they have achieved all they want in Melbs and wants to move north to play for pure love of game (…and $$$)
• instead of trading 2026 first, we trade 2027 first

Sure. Those are reasonable what ifs, but realistic? Probably not.
So trading picks I'd say is more likely the way to go.

 

[TradeDraft]

That would likely a one off. That only worked because there was players connected to the deal. Unlikely that would happen again.

But could also happen again

 

[Jen2310]

But could also happen again

could but don't see it.
I think it'll be a moot point as I think we'll see him sign on another 2 years til FA. Then he can get a big payday whether its at his club or elsewhere.

 

[TradeDraft]

could but don't see it. I think it was one of those rare events
I think it'll be a moot point as I think we'll see him sign on another 2 years til FA. Then he can get a big payday whether its at his club or elsewhere.

Markov may decide to move back to GC, but he isn't worth anything, other than him only the Daicos boys have a GC connection.

I 99% agree he will stay at the Suns and IF they have a Poor Season/Start as you say he sign to when FA Kick In so gives him a Out Options IF Suns don't Improve over a Few Seasons

 

[sr36]

But wouldn't we need to trade for him? We don't have ANY trade capital next year, and even our future first rounders we need to hang on to now. We need to accept that we aren't getting a big name now unless they are FA - which should be a somewhat open avenue as we will have a lot coin coming off the books in the next two years.

Weren't we in the same boat this year?

 

[Dtennent94]

Are there any rules against recruiting two rangas in one off-season?

 

[Jelly Bean]

Weren't we in the same boat this year?

No, last year we traded a best 22 player, a borderline best 22 player, a first round pick and a second round pick.

This year, we won't be able to trade a first round pick or a second round pick, won't have a player we are able to let go, and Rowell would command a higher trade price than Houston.

 

[sr36]

No, last year we traded a best 22 player, a borderline best 22 player, a first round pick and a second round pick.

This year, we won't be able to trade a first round pick or a second round pick, won't have a player we are able to let go, and Rowell would command a higher trade price than Houston.

I agree that Rowell looks unlikely, but think you're being pretty assumptive about our trade hand. If McGuane has a good year we'll be able to trade a first round pick. And I wouldn't assume that we won't trade anyone out. Grundy, Ollie, Ginnivan, Noble, Adams, Richards - we've hade a couple traded out every year under this footy department.


I think we'll be chasing a kpd. We'll have to I think. Probably not top shelf though.

 

[TradeDraft]

Inside Mids Value are normally not too high so we could find a Cheaper Alternative to Rowell

 

[Mick F]

No, last year we traded a best 22 player, a borderline best 22 player, a first round pick and a second round pick.

This year, we won't be able to trade a first round pick or a second round pick, won't have a player we are able to let go, and Rowell would command a higher trade price than Houston.

Credit to Jen and yourself, but there is only so far logic and good sense will go.

 

[sr36]

Credit to Jen and yourself, but there is only so far logic and good sense will go.

Problem is what you're seeing as logic is very assumptive about our end of year trade hand. The assumptions about our trade hand are ignoring that McGuane might fulfill our first round pick quota and secondly we've had two players traded out every year recently, so our trade hand is really unknown at this stage.

 

[Kirby]

 

[Apex36]

No, last year we traded a best 22 player, a borderline best 22 player, a first round pick and a second round pick.

This year, we won't be able to trade a first round pick or a second round pick, won't have a player we are able to let go, and Rowell would command a higher trade price than Houston.

We’ll have access to two future firsts and we don’t know what potential player movement might occur.

People 12 months ago said we wouldn’t have the trade capital to trade for Smith if he chose us, yet we ended up with significantly more than Geelong ended up paying for him. No point in declaring at this stage what we can afford with trade capital

 

[Jen2310]

If Tommy ends up being pick 12 (probably better if he ends up late first round), we'll need 1,026 points that includes the 10%
Our 2025 picks currently equal to 639, and that will increase or decrease depending where we finish, we'll need to dig into 2026 picks to match. So some pick swaps will need to occur next off season.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

If Tommy ends up being pick 12 (probably better if he ends up late first round), we'll need 1,026 points that includes the 10%
Our 2025 picks currently equal to 639, and that will increase or decrease depending where we finish, we'll need to dig into 2026 picks to match. So some pick swaps will need to occur next off season.

Hopefully we can break up picks into lower picks to increase our points if we need them.
But who knows at what pick McGuane is picked at and where we finish on the ladder. There is next to nothing the club can do about it until the end of the 2025 season.

 

[Jen2310]

Hopefully we can break up picks into lower picks to increase our points if we need them.
But who knows at what pick McGuane is picked at and where we finish on the ladder. There is next to nothing the club can do about it until the end of the 2025 season.

Yeah, we'll have to see how the season unfolds.

 

[Jelly Bean]

We’ll have access to two future firsts and we don’t know what potential player movement might occur.

People 12 months ago said we wouldn’t have the trade capital to trade for Smith if he chose us, yet we ended up with significantly more than Geelong ended up paying for him. No point in declaring at this stage what we can afford with trade capital

Of course there is a point - it is a prediction, that's we do on this site. There would be much less content on this site if we stripped out all predictions.

So the point of the declaration is to register my prediction. If we successfully trade for him, then I'm wrong. If someone else trades for him, then I'm right. It's that simple.

 

[Apex36]

Of course there is a point - it is a prediction, that's we do on this site. There would be much less content on this site if we stripped out all predictions.

So the point of the declaration is to register my prediction. If we successfully trade for him, then I'm wrong. If someone else trades for him, then I'm right. It's that simple.

Ok m8 if you say so

 

[Dtennent94]

Rowell looks an unlikely possibility based on what we do know, but anything is possible due to what we don’t know.

Eg. Allan to WA / Harrison to SA for a 15-25 pick and passing on our future 1st.

If that was offered right now I’d reluctantly accept. Hopefully there would be some later picks / pick swaps coming back our way to help with McGuane points.

(Better yet, though. Keep Allan/Harrison and trade the future first for Richards after WBD match the RFA offer and get a 2nd round pick coming back our way).

 

[Jelly Bean]

Rowell looks an unlikely possibility based on what we do know, but anything is possible due to what we don’t know.

Eg. Allan to WA / Harrison to SA for a 15-25 pick and passing on our future 1st.

If that was offered right now I’d reluctantly accept. Hopefully there would be some later picks / pick swaps coming back our way to help with McGuane points.

(Better yet, though. Keep Allan/Harrison and trade the future first for Richards after WBD match the RFA offer and get a 2nd round pick coming back our way).

You'd relucantly accept a trade where we lose Harrison and a future first round pick in 2026, for Rowell...? Um, yep, so would everyone. Well, except for Gold Coast, obviously...

 

[Dtennent94]

You'd relucantly accept a trade where we lose Harrison and a future first round pick in 2026, for Rowell...? Um, yep, so would everyone. Well, except for Gold Coast, obviously...

It’s a nice deal for us imo because Allan/Harrison are unlikely to be as good as what people around here like to think.

I think you’d find plenty here who wouldn’t want to do Allan/HH + F1st for Rowell.

 

[sr36]

It’s a nice deal for us imo because Allan/Harrison are unlikely to be as good as what people around here like to think.

I think you’d find plenty here who wouldn’t want to do Allan/HH + F1st for Rowell.

Everyone would do HH and F1 wouldn't they? Some are very bullish on Allan so may not like that one as much

 

[Mick F]

Grundy, Ollie, Ginnivan, Noble, Adams, Richards all up didn’t return us a Rowell.

 

[Dtennent94]

Grundy, Ollie, Ginnivan, Noble, Adams, Richards all up didn’t return us a Rowell.

Exactly why you’d trade a couple of late firsts and a player if it came to it. Grundy, Henry and Adams all cost us firsts.