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Player Watch #22 Sam Lalor- Rising Star Rd 1
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you don't play Ablett Snr in the middle.
I am not saying Lalor is Ablett Snr but Lalor is potentially more of a threat forward than Dusty. Different eras to and it is also about the rest of our list. I just think playing Lalor forward complements our talls because he compliments them and the runners needed to make the dynamic with the talls(otherwise our team is too top heavy or imbalanced), especially talls that can kick longer work.
Lalor is arguably a rare talent, throwing him in the guts really is not appropriate unless there is a argument to do so or we have a real need.
it is harder to kick goals and he is better for us doing the hard stuff kicking goals and doing any contest winning in the forward line helping us create goal opportunities if not kicking them himself
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There is only one Ablett Snr so far.
Geelong did not know what they had at the start. Having said that Ablett Snr, especially if he trained, could play anywhere.
Regardless, the game is about team football. If it helps Sam and the team for Sam to play forward he plays forward.
It is not just about Sam, it is how RFC wins the most premierships in terms of opportunity with Sam and how to play him with our playing list.
I would rather Sam win a ball, create space and room and cause a goal in the forward line than some willy nilly break up the ground.
I would rather Sam did a tackle keeping the ball in our forward line than anywhere else and I would rather Sam help our talls and our lighter smaller types doing the team things in our forward line to help us kick goals and stop our opposition kick goals from our forward fifty than busting around in more space in the centre where more random occurrences affect the result. You win games on the scoreboard, not doing circle work
Honestly Ablett Snr may have more straight running power speed than Lalor so Ablett Snr might have been more suited on the wing or half forward.
Lalor is only starting, be safer to protect him a little forward in his infancy against more seasoned bodies as well than throwing him in the guts if it is not necessary
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Interesting theory…
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I would rather Sam did a tackle keeping the ball in our forward line than anywhere else and I would rather Sam help our talls and our lighter smaller types doing the team things in our forward line to help us kick goals and stop our opposition kick goals from our forward fifty than busting around in more space in the centre where more random occurrences affect the result. You win games on the scoreboard, not doing circle work
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Sam, looks as he has sufficient ground ball support with aerial to aid a taller forward setup and help the smalls and running types to support taller forwards that can kick long.
You can't get too excited about taller types in higher numbers unless they kick the goals and/or can kick longer allowing them to be a threat further out(it is easier for smalls to cover talls further out as they are closer to the mids and switches) because the best pressure is scoreboard pressure and Sam looks good at kicking goals
For example, Fawcett, Armstrong and Faull, as well as Lynch and others are helping the case for Lalor to play forward in terms of a group dynamic that is proficient
Arguably, if Sam is not playing forward it is harder to make the case for more talls forward that actually deliver on the scoreboard offensively as well as overall team defensively I think
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Dude i should know better than reply to your posts but im like a druggie and his dealer with you
We need Sam in the midfield
Now stop teasing me
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why do you think I am a mushroom or a toddler?
Did Hawks set the world on fire with Ablett Snr? They had a bloody good team then to from their zoning
Obviously I am not intimate with the goings on with Ablett Snr at the Hawks and Ablett was his own personality, but on reflection, could the Hawks, with the power of hindsight , have developed Ablett Snr better in a different way to help keep him and play better earlier?
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You have a perception problem or overate your intuition.
I am not acting like it, if you think I am you are the one with the problem
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I think you have inferior football acumen.
Did you bet on Saints on the weekend? Betting does not mean anything but it helps confidence with analysis
i can see where you are coming from, he has good vision and is really good in close, he will be used where he is most effective, if we have a fuctioning midfield than by all means throw him forward, but i think his roll is better suited to be like dusty, mid and forwards.
How do Ablett and Lalor compare physically!?
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it depends on what you define as functioning.
To me Lalor could end up being a better forward than Dusty. That might be he may not and not trying to pump anything up it is simply a perception on what I am seeing.
In terms of belief, I am talking team belief, Lalor could be the dog in the forward line. That does not mean he is a Wayne Carey but I think Lalor could be a barometer. Put it this way, if I am playing for RFC, as a player, I want RFC to have Lalor in the forward line. If I am a tall playing for RFC I want Lalor in the forward line and if I am a small including small forwards I want Lalor in the forward line.
Not trying to pump tyres up here, Rayner Cameron from Brisbane right now is a better player than Lalor, both number one draft picks. Lalor to me looks more capable than Rayner and I am confident Lalor will eventually be a better player without trying to pump up tyres to much yet and get ahead of ourselves
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dunno, but only have to look at Greg Williams talking in a interview on the couch about Ablett power and efforts rocking up to training or Wangerneen talk about Ablett Snr.
would even try and compare Lalor to Ablett Snr, he is a baby with many bridges to cross
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Abletts only got a 3 incher
different times, ablett was physicaly gifted for sure, drugs back then played a part.
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