Player Watch #34: Jackson Archer - suspended for 3 matches for "hit" on WBD player Cleary- charge upheld, Jacko suspended

[Dinkers]

I think you all should shut the heck up

 

[Zondor]

There's nothing more dangerous than a cornered AFL CEO and Executive General Manager of Football. They'll have our bloody license as quick as look if we leave them without an opportunity to weasel their way out of the situation.

We've been warned off. We leave it at that. We aren't big enough to take on headquarters. They know it and so do we.

That’s the Shinboner Spirit. ****en Hell. :stern look

 

[Blightys Barrel]

That’s the Shinboner Spirit. ****en Hell. :stern look

I reckon this thread has as much angst as last year when we were dudded by the Umps against the Pies with the 50 meter penalty not paid to Scott in the last 2 mins. Same shit result and we all need to move on as the spilt milk has now dried up.

 

[ferball]

It's not that simple. To appeal you need to have new evidence or be able to prove some sort of legal error was made. It's not simply presenting the same evidence to a different panel

I think the AFLs call that Archer didn't slow down enough is a "legal error". I dunno how you'd argue that but it seems they've made an unreasonable assumption about what happened.

The claim that slowing by over 25% is not enough seems questionable and not based on any sort of factual basis or legal concept or whatever.

 

[Jindrrk]

We all know there's going to be the exact same incident over the next 24 months and it will involve large clubs and it will be a free kick against the player who slid in and no report on the guy who ran in

AFL as an organization are a joke.

 

[Samsquanch]

AFL as an organization are a joke.

A joke, but not a funny joke.

 

[Warrboy]

I reckon this thread has as much angst as last year when we were dudded by the Umps against the Pies with the 50 meter penalty not paid to Scott in the last 2 mins. Same shit result and we all need to move on as the spilt milk has now dried up.

Agree. Very similar to the Pies incident. It’s clear that Archer’s actions, the manner in which he ran in caused confusion amongst the players, principally Cleary, and that’s what led to the outcome.

 

[ferball]

I got a free kick paid against me for intimidating a player.

He was alone waiting for a mark, I ran flat out at him and screamed "Arggghhh drop it" and he did, picked it up running past with about 30m of open space between me and the forwards and got pinged. LOL. Was metres away when he tried to mark the ball.

But I did get an apology from the umpire after the game. He's obviously gone on to advise at AFL level decades later.

 

[Event Horizon]

I think the AFLs call that Archer didn't slow down enough is a "legal error". I dunno how you'd argue that but it seems they've made an unreasonable assumption about what happened.

The claim that slowing by over 25% is not enough seems questionable and not based on any sort of factual basis or legal concept or whatever.

That is a questionable assertion on their behalf but it's not a legal error. A legal error would be something like the charge not aligning with the action, or not letting a witness speak for no reasonable grounds etc

 

[ferball]

That is a questionable assertion on their behalf but it's not a legal error. A legal error would be something like the charge not aligning with the action, or not letting a witness speak for no reasonable grounds etc

So carelessness based on him not taking action to avoid an event becomes "did not slow down enough" even tho there is no reasonable standard for that claim?

 

[Event Horizon]

So carelessness based on him not taking action to avoid an event becomes "did not slow down enough" even tho there is no reasonable standard for that claim?

It may be unreasonable and we had the chance to argue against it during the hearing. But is it an error of law? No.

 

[ferball]

What's the law that govern's AFL tribunal decisions?

 

[Horace]

What's the law that govern's AFL tribunal decisions?

Its called Rafferty's Rules. They make it up as they go. Works for them.

 

[Samsquanch]

What's the law that govern's AFL tribunal decisions?

Contract

 

[shintemaster]

Contract

 

[Pravda Roo]

What a joke of a decesion

 

[Pravda Roo]

his great and also a gun pitcher

 

[justroyal]

Irony was he did that incident thinking we could still win the game and trying too. But if the other guys just played like that from the 3rd quarter, different story. Disappointing on them and probably should be playing for him on the we

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

What's the law that govern's AFL tribunal decisions?

Roll of the dice OR weighty brown paper bags.