Player Watch #35 Caleb Mitchell

[Kiama Chris]

Solid today, didn't look out of place

Like a lot of debutants he seemed to struggle with the pace but kept going.

 

[S120]

Did a few things that looked like he belonged with respect to how he approached contested situations. As a 19yo on the G against more senior players like McIntosh he used his body to win the ball a few times and got it moving for us, encouraging performance without being extraordinary.

 

[lazy77]

He got himself involved, but looked painfully slow which cost us dearly a couple of times. Ok we don’t need everyone to be Usain Bolt, but faster than Will Hickey should be the bare minimum.

 

[Swan4Life]

Yeah, I was a bit underwhelmed to be honest. He was beaten in a sprint to a loose ball by Kamdyn McIntosh

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Kamdyn Mcintosh

Age

30

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.9

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

13.8

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

18.6

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.4

4star

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Don't want to judge him too harshly though, his effort was pretty good.

Obviously need to see more before we can say he is or isn't AFL standard.

 

[Callipygian]

How does he compare with Corey Warner? Who has the brighter future based on the evidence available so far? Or just pointless to say based on so little evidence?

Corey is quicker, and seems to be more visible with his impact. But I can see Mitchell playing a role with discipline. Caleb seems to have footy smarts (I offer that opinion tentatively) and seems to be better at getting the pill. Caleb also worked hard and seemed still to have a good tank.

There's not a lot between them but Corey has had (a few) more opportunities but not yet really made an impact so I'm leaning slightly towards Mitchell.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

How does he compare with Corey Warner? Who has the brighter future based on the evidence available so far? Or just pointless to say based on so little evidence?

Corey is quicker, and seems to be more visible with his impact. But I can see Mitchell playing a role with discipline. Caleb seems to have footy (I offer that opinion tentatively) and seems to be better at getting the pill. Caleb also worked hard and seemed still to have a good tank.

There's not a lot between them but Corey has had (a few) more opportunities but not yet really made an impact so I'm leaning slightly towards Mitchell.

The ultimate nil all draw there at this stage. Personally not sure either make it, but I do like Mitchell and we did reward form, what I didn't love is keeping the other one in the team. Feel Mitchell is 2 years away from having the tank.

 

[Kiama Chris]

How does he compare with Corey Warner? Who has the brighter future based on the evidence available so far? Or just pointless to say based on so little evidence?

Corey is quicker, and seems to be more visible with his impact. But I can see Mitchell playing a role with discipline. Caleb seems to have footy (I offer that opinion tentatively) and seems to be better at getting the pill. Caleb also worked hard and seemed still to have a good tank.

There's not a lot between them but Corey has had (a few) more opportunities but not yet really made an impact so I'm leaning slightly towards Mitchell.

Too early to tell but it's promising that the coaches think it's worthwhile exposing both to senior footy. Caleb's game will have given him plenty to work on.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Too early to tell but it's promising that the coaches think it's worthwhile exposing both to senior footy. Caleb's game will have given him plenty to work on.

Actually wouldn't be against Caleb staying in this week, drop Corey back to the 2's. WCE should be an easier game for him to get amongst it.

 

[hairy biker]

How does he compare with Corey Warner? Who has the brighter future based on the evidence available so far? Or just pointless to say based on so little evidence?

Corey is quicker, and seems to be more visible with his impact. But I can see Mitchell playing a role with discipline. Caleb seems to have footy smarts (I offer that opinion tentatively) and seems to be better at getting the pill. Caleb also worked hard and seemed still to have a good tank.

There's not a lot between them but Corey has had (a few) more opportunities but not yet really made an impact so I'm leaning slightly towards Mitchell.

The problem I see with Mitchell is that he's slow.
Certainly got the tank and a decent football brain, but the best games I've seen from him in the reserves have been when he's inside.
I think we have better options on the wing.

I've always though that Corey would make a good small forward.
Quick, hard and can work up and back.
Been a bit fumbly so far this season, but could with a bit more luck have 5 goals on the board in his two games, so he can certainly hit the scoreboard.

It may come down to which player finds his right position and a spot opens up in that position in the firsts.

I more inclined to lean towards Corey, as he has a few more tools and a small pressure forward is likely to be more of a need than a slow wingman.
But as you say, a small sample size.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

How does he compare with Corey Warner? Who has the brighter future based on the evidence available so far? Or just pointless to say based on so little evidence?

Corey is quicker, and seems to be more visible with his impact. But I can see Mitchell playing a role with discipline. Caleb seems to have footy smarts (I offer that opinion tentatively) and seems to be better at getting the pill. Caleb also worked hard and seemed still to have a good tank.

There's not a lot between them but Corey has had (a few) more opportunities but not yet really made an impact so I'm leaning slightly towards Mitchell.

My view: Corey has speed & likely a higher ceiling

BUT

At the moment, Mitchell gets the ball, Corey doesn’t.

And that matters. A lot.

 

[caesar88]

I think it's hard to judge both Mitchell and Warner Jr. so far.

One's pretty much exclusively played as a sub (I needn't remind everyone of Sheldrick's efforts playing inside mid as a sub last year...)

The other debuted in one of the most shizen games from a Swans team that I can remember.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Sid got some praise from Kinnear on the TB podcast; said he wasn't far off taking the next step, got the confidence to hold the ball, and to step and to find some space and use his legs to drive out of it.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Haven't heard anything on a potential extension for Sid yet - I wonder where he sits in the scheme of things, ie. whether he's going to have to wait until after the season on a contract extension?

 

[rustycrate]

Haven't heard anything on a potential extension for Sid yet - I wonder where he sits in the scheme of things, ie. whether he's going to have to wait until after the season on a contract extension?

I reckon he is a smokey for this week as sub. Played well.

 

[caesar88]

Haven't heard anything on a potential extension for Sid yet - I wonder where he sits in the scheme of things, ie. whether he's going to have to wait until after the season on a contract extension?

I think he'd be safe, though the jury's still out if he'll end up a player for us or not.

It's pretty rare for the Swans not to re-sign players taken in the national draft once their initial contract is up. Konstanty & Vickery from the same draft would already be on thin ice in that regard, so it's unlikely there'd be a third in Mitchell. He's also done better at making an impression on selectors, earning his debut and being senior emergency a number of times. And as noted above, Beatson gave him a shoutout, suggesting they see potential there that maybe they don't see in others.

 

[Callipygian]

I expect Mitchell to get a 2 year extension before season's end. Based on nothing except the vibe.

 

[Kiama Chris]

I expect Mitchell to get a 2 year extension before season's end. Based on nothing except the vibe.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

I think he'd be safe, though the jury's still out if he'll end up a player for us or not.

It's pretty rare for the Swans not to re-sign players taken in the national draft once their initial contract is up. Konstanty & Vickery from the same draft would already be on thin ice in that regard, so it's unlikely there'd be a third in Mitchell. He's also done better at making an impression on selectors, earning his debut and being senior emergency a number of times. And as noted above, Beatson gave him a shoutout, suggesting they see potential there that maybe they don't see in others.

agree; will be an interesting one to watch and see what happens.

 

[Kiama Chris]

In the coaches votes again. Certainly doing his share.

 

[BloodySwan]

I expect Mitchell to get a 2 year extension before season's end. Based on nothing except the vibe.

Beatson is still list manager, if he thinks Mitchell is developing we'd be insane not to extend him

 

[Kbroome]

It would be dumb imo to let Mitchell go because he is good enough to be a 4th midfielder on some of the bottom Vic sides. Like he hasn't even hit his 20s yet and already is at times on the cusp of our best 23.

 

[TheMase]

I have some reservations as to whether he might be a bit too one paced but he has definitely done more than enough improvement this year to deserve an extension.

 

[BloodySwan]

If he can translate some of his time

Our midfield is very tough to crack right now. If he can find another string in defence or attack like Roberts or Cleary you'd expect him to get more game time

 

[caesar88]

I have some reservations as to whether he might be a bit too one paced but he has definitely done more than enough improvement this year to deserve an extension.

I've mostly thought the player he reminded me of was Justin McInerney circa the NEAFL in 2019. Had very similar attributes, right down to size and body shape. But not so sure now. I just haven't seen as much of that overlap run from Mitchell as I did from McInerney, so it's hard to decipher what Mitchell's one-wood would be as a player in the senior side.

 

[Kiama Chris]

I've mostly thought the player he reminded me of was Justin McInerney circa the NEAFL in 2019. Had very similar attributes, right down to size and body shape. But not so sure now. I just haven't seen as much of that overlap run from Mitchell as I did from McInerney, so it's hard to decipher what Mitchell's one-wood would be as a player in the senior side.

I watched McInerney very closely and I think Mitchell is a fair bit different. Hard to express though. At the moment Warner and Mitchell are depth players you wouldn't be upset about playing seniors if necessary. Campbell is best 25. They are the 3 outside best 22. Inside mids are Sheldrick and Cleary, Roberts also at a pinch.
That's not a bad group at all.