One of Fitsch's weaker points.
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One of Fitsch's weaker points.
He only played about half a dozen marches so to dominate those games in patches after not playing for nearly 2 years was a pretty fair effort.I hope we re-sign Cumberland, but he had two very good games at VFL level (the last two), but was relatively poor before that time. To be honest, looked like the speed of the game was too much at VFL level. Let’s not get too carried away with this guy being better than Castagna who has at least two performed very well at the highest level.
As I said though, do we hope we give him one more year. I suspect for a lot of these guys (Biggie, Stack, Miller), the trade period finishing and the AFL actually finalizing the salary cap amount etc. will be the two barriers standing in the way of having extensions/ new contract being executed.
a mate of mine played with him a bit at his junior club in Maroochydore, reckons he's a gun and a beast of an athlete. Hope we keep him
Hope he gets a chance with us , no guarantees he makes the level as a med forward , bit of a caddy type , worth a rookie selection though , crazy that you can’t offer a rookie contract rather than delist and re draftDelisted with the promise of re-selecting them in the rookie draft
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Richmond announces further list changes
Derek Eggmolesse-Smith and Ryan Garthwaite will not be offered contracts for the 2022 season.www.richmondfc.com.au
Hope he gets a chance with us , no guarantees he makes the level as a med forward , bit of a caddy type , worth a rookie selection though , crazy that you can’t offer a rookie contract rather than delist and re draft
Agree with this
Last year you could just demote the player onto the rookie list due to list sizes being cut, List sizes have not increased yet clubs need to delist and rookie list these players. Bloody stupid as there are so many clubs now having to compromise their younger players to balance list
You realise Aarts has a contact and Noah doesn't? What do you propose? sack Aarts? trade him?What a disgrace we keep a player like Aarts over this kid who hasn’t even been given a chance-and yes I know we will re rookie him but that’s not the point.
It's more the fact that they give a two year contract to a player that is borderline best 22-26. Seems quite short sighted especially when you consider the potential of players like Aarts vs Cumberland and Nyuon.You realise Aarts has a contact and Noah doesn't? What do you propose? sack Aarts? trade him?
2020 Aarts wasn't bad. I actually saw a lot of games that year. In a team that was playing well. Fair enough he was rewarded with a couple of years. Promoted from the VFL team I think. 2021: The whole team looked crap this year. And I'm all for ditching whatever doesn't work. i.e. small forwards who guard space. List management has been a bit strange. I would not have renewed Parker. I would've moved Caddy on too. But, if they've retained spots I imagine Dimma sees some role for them.
Cumberland looks like a great footballer. has had his career stuffed by huge injury mid season and then COVID. I thought he looked good when drafted and when played this year. But he is out of contract and with Nyoun, delisted and I doubt both will return. I think Noah is the better footballer and is more likely to play senior football soon.
It's more the fact that they give a two year contract to a player that is borderline best 22-26. Seems quite short sighted especially when you consider the potential of players like Aarts vs Cumberland and Nyuon.
It’s not us assessing the potential it’s our list management and coaches. Clearly don’t rate as highly as on this board or they wouldn’t have been delisted . What this says to me is that they have preferred targets thru the draft that these two. Wouldn’t surprise if another club had a crack at rookie either of these two before us , maybe not though ,there’s a few like Lonie or constable that’s will get attentionIt's more the fact that they give a two year contract to a player that is borderline best 22-26. Seems quite short sighted especially when you consider the potential of players like Aarts vs Cumberland and Nyuon.
2020 Aarts played his role well. 14/17 games. 2 years was generous. 2021 the kryptonite stand rule looks like its f*ed us completely. Looks like the whole forward line barely functioned and I do not have Aarts in my best 26. Nor is Parker. And his spot could easily been freed up. Guys like Dunstan get delisted and picked up by the Premiers. Caddy could've found a home easily. Strange list decisions. The good draft hand we have was going to put pressure on guys who have not made senior appearance.It's more the fact that they give a two year contract to a player that is borderline best 22-26. Seems quite short sighted especially when you consider the potential of players like Aarts vs Cumberland and Nyuon.
What is suggests to me is that spots are few because we have a strong draft hand and we want to use 5 or 6 picks in the first 40. This has put pressure on young players who are developing. Biggy is some sort of athlete who looked pretty good in his last outing. Cumberland was about as impressive as you could possibly be coming of a knee reco. But 2 year contracts were given to players on the periphery, which I know in hindsight is easy to say, but we these decisions could come back to bite us. Would be very disappointed to lose either, but Cumberland in particular who I reckon could easily play a lot of games next year.It’s not us assessing the potential it’s our list management and coaches. Clearly don’t rate as highly as on this board or they wouldn’t have been delisted . What this says to me is that they have preferred targets thru the draft that these two. Wouldn’t surprise if another club had a crack at rookie either of these two before us , maybe not though ,there’s a few like Lonie or constable that’s will get attention
Cumberland is explosive and some sort of athlete.different players. Aarts supposed to be that small pressure forward. He needs to have a good year this year otherwise it’ll be a delisting. Some of his turnovers this year were an absolute joke. Literally hand passing it to the oppo from 5 meters away in dangerous areas.
Cumberland seems to be more that medium forward. Potentially more dangerous offensively. I haven’t seen what his closing speed is like. Hope it’s good and he can push Aarts for his spot.
What a disgrace we keep a player like Aarts over this kid who hasn’t even been given a chance-and yes I know we will re rookie him but that’s not the point.
That’s my point.You realise Aarts has a contact and Noah doesn't? What do you propose? sack Aarts? trade him?
2020 Aarts wasn't bad. I actually saw a lot of games that year. In a team that was playing well. Fair enough he was rewarded with a couple of years. Promoted from the VFL team I think. 2021: The whole team looked crap this year. And I'm all for ditching whatever doesn't work. i.e. small forwards who guard space. List management has been a bit strange. I would not have renewed Parker. I would've moved Caddy on too. But, if they've retained spots I imagine Dimma sees some role for them.
Cumberland looks like a great footballer. has had his career stuffed by huge injury mid season and then COVID. I thought he looked good when drafted and when played this year. But he is out of contract and with Nyoun, delisted and I doubt both will return. I think Noah is the better footballer and is more likely to play senior football soon.
I'd take Cumberland over Ralphsmith from what I've seen, sounds a tad arrogant, that I know more than the entire Richmond selectors!! but there is something about his speed, agility and aggression that is pretty unique. Ralphsmith has the speed and athleticism, but not sure about the footy nous yet.Clearly they rate some of the kids higher in the draft through that 30-50 range than Cumberland. Not a big deal for mine.
He was drafted at pick 43 himself which is always a long shot then add a knee reco to that. He's a long way behind even someone like Ralphsmith for potential games. Hopefully he's not picked up by another team either way.
Haven’t we seen enough of Aarts to know he’s not good enough. If he’s playing round 1 next year I’ll have little faith.different players. Aarts supposed to be that small pressure forward. He needs to have a good year this year otherwise it’ll be a delisting. Some of his turnovers this year were an absolute joke. Literally hand passing it to the oppo from 5 meters away in dangerous areas.
Cumberland seems to be more that medium forward. Potentially more dangerous offensively. I haven’t seen what his closing speed is like. Hope it’s good and he can push Aarts for his spot.
2020 Aarts played his role well. 14/17 games. 2 years was generous. 2021 the kryptonite stand rule looks like its f*ed us completely. Looks like the whole forward line barely functioned and I do not have Aarts in my best 26. Nor is Parker. And his spot could easily been freed up. Guys like Dunstan get delisted and picked up by the Premiers. Caddy could've found a home easily. Strange list decisions. The good draft hand we have was going to put pressure on guys who have not made senior appearance.
I don't like bagging players because it is not about them being not good enough or bad players, but more about other players being better. I really like Aarts as a player, gives his all and has some neat tricks, but I reckon his days as as small forward have gone. Maybe backup mid and think he will play a fair bit of VFL in there. I think Castagna will struggle also. Giving them 2 year contracts last year from memory seemed strange.Haven’t we seen enough of Aarts to know he’s not good enough. If he’s playing round 1 next year I’ll have little faith.