Player Watch #38: Tristan Xerri - signed thru '29 - 2024 All Australian squad member - runner up '24 SBM

[Roo Beauty]

Alright. First it was the use of ***********. Now it’s Maltese complaining about people not pronouncing their name correctly. I’m done now.

It’s not exactly a big ask.

 

[Val Keating]

It’s not exactly a big ask.

Grima was always pronounced wrong as well.

 

[Devington]

It’s not exactly a big ask.

Especially from blokes whose job is literally to talk.

 

[justroyal]

It’s not exactly a big ask.

It’s a dying language that they’re even dropping over there. So many 2nd-3rd generation Maltese don’t even know how to correctly pronounce their own names, and you’re expecting broadcasters in a country that solely speaks English to learn the correct pronunciation of a Sicilian Arabic language with a latin twist, or learn how to correctly pronounce your name?

However I’m sure with more games and consistency, people will make more of an effort to remember who he is and how it’s pronounced.

 

[Heaps of fun]

It’s a dying language that they’re even dropping over there. So many 2nd-3rd generation Maltese don’t even know how to correctly pronounce their own names, and you’re expecting broadcasters in a country that solely speaks English to learn the correct pronunciation of a Sicilian Arabic language with a latin twist, or learn how to correctly pronounce your name?

However I’m sure with more games and consistency, people will make more of an effort to remember who he is and how it’s pronounced.

I'm staying out of this ancient Mediterranean linguistics feud.

 

[Devington]

It’s a dying language that they’re even dropping over there. So many 2nd-3rd generation Maltese don’t even know how to correctly pronounce their own names, and you’re expecting broadcasters in a country that solely speaks English to learn the correct pronunciation of a Sicilian Arabic language with a latin twist, or learn how to correctly pronounce your name?

However I’m sure with more games and consistency, people will make more of an effort to remember who he is and how it’s pronounced.

It's not just Xerri though, the article spotlighted a half dozen different players it happens to. For the commentators it should be exceptionally easy with all the extra access they get, just ask the club. Then just spell it phonetically on your notes for the team or whatever and leave it there until it's locked in your memory. Simple as.

 

[justroyal]

It's not just Xerri though, the article spotlighted a half dozen different players it happens to. For the commentators it should be exceptionally easy with all the extra access they get, just ask the club. Then just spell it phonetically on your notes for the team or whatever and leave it there until it's locked in your memory. Simple as.

No one is pronouncing Petracca’s name correctly. You don’t see his mum going on about it.

 

[The Warlord]

No one is pronouncing Petracca’s name correctly. You don’t see his mum going on about it.

He did get pretty annoyed by it at the Brownlow

 

[Devington]

No one is pronouncing Petracca’s name correctly. You don’t see his mum going on about it.

Different people care about different things. Expecting commentators to say your name correctly isn't too much of an ask, and the actual task of them managing it is a simple one.

 

[ferball]

It's not just Xerri though, the article spotlighted a half dozen different players it happens to. For the commentators it should be exceptionally easy with all the extra access they get, just ask the club. Then just spell it phonetically on your notes for the team or whatever and leave it there until it's locked in your memory. Simple as.

You're giving some of those commentators more credit than they deserve in terms of being able to read and write notes and remember things.

 

[justroyal]

He did get pretty annoyed by it at the Brownlow

That’s my point. You’ve got big name players and they can’t even get it right for them. Then you also have some that don’t even know how to pronounce their own names.
Fantasia isn’t even pronounced correctly.
It’s not as easy as simple phonetics. Get it right once, remember it for life. It’s hard for English language speaking people to mentally make the link of foreign sounding letters, words, sounds and then expecting them to make the connection in real time.

Different people care about different things. Expecting commentators to say your name correctly isn't too much of an ask, and the actual task of them managing it is a simple one.

I’m giving the media a cop out here.
It’s such a stupid rant I’m on, I get it, - regardless of my experience with languages. But you’ve got thousands of players, with commentators who don’t have the experience of creating sounds, linking vowels etc in other languages.

Get good and everyone will remember your name, Xerri.

Otherwise tell them it’s like the wine, the Spanish one…

 

[Orange crush]

These guys still call cogs con-nig-li-o after 14 years .... they aren't very clever is all

 

[The Warlord]

These guys still call cogs con-nig-li-o after 14 years .... they aren't very clever is all

They also struggle with simple Anglo names and have to shorten them, use initials or add -ey

They take pride in this ignorance.

 

[One Eyed Roo]

The embarrassing thing here is when explained the pronunciation is quite simple. If commentators want to be considered professionals and afforded some sort of respect for how they perform their role then this should not be an issue. Pronunciation is part of their preparation. It is unprofessional.

 

[ansonholt]

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from Richmond is another whose name they get wrong. They all say "Vlas-ten" but it's not pronounced that way in Holland, where his ancestry is. My late mother was Dutch and and I speak the language a bit. It should be "vlas-tone" which means "flax garden" when translated to English.

 

[lockheed]

They also struggle with simple Anglo names and have to shorten them, use initials or add -ey

They take pride in this ignorance.

Perhaps the club can get on the front foot and send media the correct pronunciation of "difficult" names.

It's obviously too much too expect our highly paid media professionals to do the work themselves.

 

[Val Keating]

Side bar to this discussion, Malta is such a fascinating country, tiny nation half way between Europe and Africa, and as a consequence the most powerful empires of any era used used it as a kind of base and they all left their imprints on the place. One of the most unique countries Ive visited.

 

[big_e]

Perhaps the club can get on the front foot and send media the correct pronunciation of "difficult" names.

It's obviously too much too expect our highly paid media professionals to do the work themselves.

I saw snippets of the GWS media guide during the week and it included pronunciation. I wouldn't be surprised if ours did too. The problem is those who need it most are the least likely to read it.

 

[ferball]

Nick Vlastuin from Richmond is another whose name they get wrong. They all say "Vlas-ten" but it's not pronounced that way in Holland, where his ancestry is. My late mother was Dutch and and I speak the language a bit. It should be "vlas-tone" which means "flax garden" when translated to English.

How very Dutch lol.

 

[SunnyBoner]

These guys still call cogs con-nig-li-o after 14 years .... they aren't very clever is all

Pretty sure that name translates to rabbit or hare in Italian

 

[Swallow_Wood]

As someone with an 'ethnic' first name, it is ****ing infuriating and exhausting having to correct people all the time. It may not matter all that much to others but for the carrier of the name its part of who we are. It's not that hard to take care to get names right ffs.

 

[shinboner_99]

According to Richmond umpires couldn't pronounce Bartlett correctly. They kept saying Greig.

 

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dominated Gawn in the ruck on the weekend, was running across the centre line and engaging him to impede his jump. Reckon Xerri needs to implement the same sort of tactics this year because he is as strong ad any ruck in the comp. There wouldn’t be many rucks (maybe Witts & O’Brien) who’d match him for strength.

Also stops the opposition rucks from getting clean taps into space which we have always struggled with. Impeding runs and engaging in contact means means the fall of the ball is likely to be in a smaller area suiting our contested players like Wardlaw and LDU.

The Sunday footy show spoke about it and this article talks about it too!

Clever new tactic exposed as Brodie Grundy

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dominates Max Gawn

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[shintemaster]

I'm staying out of this ancient Mediterranean linguistics feud.

The standard you walk past...

 

[Heaps of fun]

As someone with an 'ethnic' first name, it is ******* infuriating and exhausting having to correct people all the time. It may not matter all that much to others but for the carrier of the name its part of who we are. It's not that hard to take care to get names right ffs.

This is why everyone was much happier when they were given Aussie names at the docks. Giussepe? How about Joe. Iosif? How about Joe. Jose? How about Joe. Dmitri? How about Joe. Georgio? How about Joe. Bo? How about Joe.