Player Watch #4 Brodie Grundy

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Player Profile:

Experienced ruckman Brodie Grundy

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Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

joined the red and white after selection in the 2023 AFL Draft Trade Period. The two-time All Australian arrives having played 194 games across Collingwood and Melbourne and after debuting for Magpies in 2013 has gone on to feature in four finals campaigns, including the 2018 Grand Final. The 29-year-old, who cites Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

43

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

as his football icon, will bolster a young side of ruckman in Lachlan McAndrew and Will Green.

DOB: 15/04/1994
Draft: 2012
Recruited From: Melbourne FC

 

[Tedeski]

If you haven't seen this worth checking out. Ex-Melbourne ruck Jeff White breaks down how the Lions dominated the center bounces in the 2nd quarter. The point I found really interesting was that the Lions knew Grundy prefers to hit the ball to a certain area and hence were set up to counter this.

I think it's a bit harsh to just point it to Grundy, when this analysis would suggest the Brisbane mids were better structured (and coached?) than ours.

Out coached once again in a big game. But why weren’t they onto it immediately in the coaches box & where were our leaders? No plan B. No onfield leaders.

A coach playing a system that died when the 6 6 6 was introduced, disabling our ability to halt an opponent’s momentum, thus stopping the 6 or 7 unanswered goals. It was born in our two years of missed finals. Where every was lovey Dover with Horse in the lockdowns.

Adams may not have been at his best but he would have brought some resistance at the contest with a ruckman he knows inside out & against a ruckman playing his first game in 20 or so weeks. The vulnerable midfield should have been the Lions.
Our coaches showed them.

 

[caesar88]

Out coached once again in a big game. But why weren’t they onto it immediately in the coaches box & where were our leaders? No plan B. No onfield leaders.

A coach playing a system that died when the 6 6 6 was introduced, disabling our ability to halt an opponent’s momentum, thus stopping the 6 or 7 unanswered goals. It was born in our two years of missed finals. Where every was lovey Dover with Horse in the lockdowns.

Adams may not have been at his best but he would have brought some resistance at the contest with a ruckman he knows inside out & against a ruckman playing his first game in 20 or so weeks. The vulnerable midfield should have been the Lions.
Our coaches showed them.

I think saying that Horse was out coached in a "big game" gives him an out for all the many other games throughout the year... every year... for the past seven or eight years... where Horse is out-coached in the midfield. He simply can not make a midfield work.

Even suggesting Adams being picked is futile. If our midfields have been dog-shit so often with names like JPK and this year's Heeney in them, the addition of an Adams wouldn't have made much difference.

I'm seriously fed up with Horse.

 

[Callipygian]

If you haven't seen this worth checking out. Ex-Melbourne ruck Jeff White breaks down how the Lions dominated the center bounces in the 2nd quarter. The point I found really interesting was that the Lions knew Grundy prefers to hit the ball to a certain area and hence were set up to counter this.

I think it's a bit harsh to just point it to Grundy, when this analysis would suggest the Brisbane mids were better structured (and coached?) than ours.

That is particularly damning for Dean Cox - the champion ex-ruck who coaches our midfield. More than any single person I would think he has responsibility for this. Then of course there's Horse, who sits over him and who bears responsibility for any decisions of his subordinates.

 

[Kiama Chris]

That is particularly damning for Dean Cox - the champion ex-ruck who coaches our midfield. More than any single person I would think he has responsibility for this. Then of course there's Horse, who sits over him and who bears responsibility for any decisions of his subordinates.

Because Cox was a gun ruck 20 years ago why should we expect him to be a master midfield tactician in today's game? Or Horse?
That's a nonsense. Many teams have stoppage analysts and coaches to do this.
THIS would be a major improvement moving forward. Lose a line coach if necessary. Poach one.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

The worst part for me is the first one, how can gulden let his opponent run in on the wing like that by himself, allowing him to get the handball received

I was going to comment too. So so very loose and no excuse, the play had just started.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

If you haven't seen this worth checking out. Ex-Melbourne ruck Jeff White breaks down how the Lions dominated the center bounces in the 2nd quarter. The point I found really interesting was that the Lions knew Grundy prefers to hit the ball to a certain area and hence were set up to counter this.

I think it's a bit harsh to just point it to Grundy, when this analysis would suggest the Brisbane mids were better structured (and coached?) than ours.

Great share, thank you.

Entirely agree that the midfield also bares responsibility.

What I was trying to say is that Grundy is supposed to be a premier ruck in the comp (with a couple of huge points to prove) up against a journeyman reserve ruck (albeit good quality).

Grundy should have not only be able to dominate Fort in hitouts, but also have the awareness to see the strategies of both teams to win the drop and be able to adapt his ruckwork and tell his mids where they need to be to dominate the game.

He didn’t take on this responsibility / didn’t have the smarts and awareness to do it.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

If you haven't seen this worth checking out. Ex-Melbourne ruck Jeff White breaks down how the Lions dominated the center bounces in the 2nd quarter. The point I found really interesting was that the Lions knew Grundy prefers to hit the ball to a certain area and hence were set up to counter this.

I think it's a bit harsh to just point it to Grundy, when this analysis would suggest the Brisbane mids were better structured (and coached?) than ours.

I've followed White's ruck analysis all year via twitter. He knows his stuff. If we brought him on as a consultant (discretely so as not to embarass Cox), I reckon he could really help.

 

[Kiama Chris]

I've followed White's ruck analysis all year via twitter. He knows his stuff. If we brought him on as a consultant (discretely so as not to embarass Cox), I reckon he could really help.

I reiterate the point about having a midfield structure and strategy coach.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

If you haven't seen this worth checking out. Ex-Melbourne ruck Jeff White breaks down how the Lions dominated the center bounces in the 2nd quarter. The point I found really interesting was that the Lions knew Grundy prefers to hit the ball to a certain area and hence were set up to counter this.

I think it's a bit harsh to just point it to Grundy, when this analysis would suggest the Brisbane mids were better structured (and coached?) than ours.

Thanks for sharing.

A common theme for me throughout the year has been that we've been focused on attack at the expense of defence, and this clip is a little glimpse into that.

A few things stood out.

1. Grundy was poor and let us down.
2. Heeney's inexperience as a mid was telling
3. Dunkley was bloody good in nullifying Heeney (shame we couldn't make him a swan at the two points he was available).

First play, we set up with Heeney looking to attack the ball. Grundy totally messed this one up, as a result, Heeney overruns it. Success here was predicated on a) Grundy winning the ruck battle and b) Heeney taking the ball cleanly. Heeney had the opportunity to take a more defensive approach, continue maintaining body contact with Dunkley, pushing him left, sealing him off from the contest and opening up more space for himself to run into, while staying in the defensive zone where the ball actually ended up. But he was in an ultra-attacking position and was focused on losing contact so he could run onto Grundy's tap. Only that Grundy lost the battle, it went to the Lions advantage and Heeney was out of the play and Dunkley was able to seal him off.

2nd play, Heeney was once again in attack mode, went to the ball before it had even been tapped, allowing the Lions ruck to tap it at his feet, Heeney once again caught in no man's land trying to attack the ball. And clearance to Dunkley who held great position.

3rd play, Grundy, beaten again, Heeney, tries to attack the ball but is beaten by Neale. Poor job by Rowbottom, Neale draws Heeney, opening up Dunkley. Great work by the Lions, all round poor effort by us.

I won't go into the rest, but basically, we went into this game as we did all season, with our fight fire with fire mantra. We went with an offensive mindset, but really weren't equipped to go head to head with Brisbane.

Neale is a dual brownlow medallist for good reason, and Dunkley is an intelligent and experienced mid.

Grundy was poor. Heeney is green in terms of his midfield craft and was asked to attack, which he did, so I'm not overly critical of him.

To me, this falls on the coaches. We went ultra-attacking. The same style that saw us as one of the most potent attacking teams in the comp, but also a team that continually had runs of goals scored against us.

The positive is, the gameplan only needs a bit of fine tuning. If we're at 65 attack 35 defence, we just need to dial it back to 62 attack 38 defence and we may be there.

 

[rustycrate]

Thanks for sharing.

A common theme for me throughout the year has been that we've been focused on attack at the expense of defence, and this clip is a little glimpse into that.

A few things stood out.

1. Grundy was poor and let us down.
2. Heeney's inexperience as a mid was telling
3. Dunkley was bloody good in nullifying Heeney (shame we couldn't make him a swan at the two points he was available).

First play, we set up with Heeney looking to attack the ball. Grundy totally messed this one up, as a result, Heeney overruns it. Success here was predicated on a) Grundy winning the ruck battle and b) Heeney taking the ball cleanly. Heeney had the opportunity to take a more defensive approach, continue maintaining body contact with Dunkley, pushing him left, sealing him off from the contest and opening up more space for himself to run into, while staying in the defensive zone where the ball actually ended up. But he was in an ultra-attacking position and was focused on losing contact so he could run onto Grundy's tap. Only that Grundy lost the battle, it went to the Lions advantage and Heeney was out of the play and Dunkley was able to seal him off.

2nd play, Heeney was once again in attack mode, went to the ball before it had even been tapped, allowing the Lions ruck to tap it at his feet, Heeney once again caught in no man's land trying to attack the ball. And clearance to Dunkley who held great position.

3rd play, Grundy, beaten again, Heeney, tries to attack the ball but is beaten by Neale. Poor job by Rowbottom, Neale draws Heeney, opening up Dunkley. Great work by the Lions, all round poor effort by us.

I won't go into the rest, but basically, we went into this game as we did all season, with our fight fire with fire mantra. We went with an offensive mindset, but really weren't equipped to go head to head with Brisbane.

Neale is a dual brownlow medallist for good reason, and Dunkley is an intelligent and experienced mid.

Grundy was poor. Heeney is green in terms of his midfield craft and was asked to attack, which he did, so I'm not overly critical of him.

To me, this falls on the coaches. We went ultra-attacking. The same style that saw us as one of the most potent attacking teams in the comp, but also a team that continually had runs of goals scored against us.

The positive is, the gameplan only needs a bit of fine tuning. If we're at 65 attack 35 defence, we just need to dial it back to 62 attack 38 defence and we may be there.

Reinforces my opinion that we had too many outside players in the GF. We had Lloyd, JJ, McInerney, Gulden, Campbell and Warner.
Not enough true inside players. We had Rowbottom and Heeney. We left out Adams, Mills, Sheldrick and Cleary.

The Cattle is there.

The mix is wrong.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Reinforces my opinion that we had too many outside players in the GF. We had Lloyd, JJ, McInerney, Gulden, Campbell and Warner.
Not enough true inside players. We had Rowbottom and Heeney. We left out Adams, Mills, Sheldrick and Cleary.

The Cattle is there.

The mix is wrong.

Yup, funny that Adams wasn't even on the emergency list and Parker was being played as a forward. Just rubbish decisions all round. Horse is to blame

 

[rustycrate]

I've followed White's ruck analysis all year via twitter. He knows his stuff. If we brought him on as a consultant (discretely so as not to embarass Cox), I reckon he could really help.

Thanks for this. What is his Twitter handle?