Better Loosen Up
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We still haven't given Ford a new contract yet have we?
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Nice work there SphynxI placed this in stat observations and Zurhaar's thread, I will put it in Fords thread for reference back in a few years:
I will also put it in here:
I decided to do an exercise when assessing the Zurhaar contract situation.
Eddie Ford is definitely one of the more underrated players in the competition at the moment.
I think in general, the coaching staff have been misusing him quite badly.
So I've decided to prove why I think Zurhaar shouldn't be on anything but a standard playing contract comparable to what Ford or Curtis would be offered.
I've compared CZ/Curtis/Ford and adjusted their season averages per 120 minutes (100% TOG). Now obviously a players ability to run out more TOG is important, but Fords season stats are all over the place because of 5 sub appearances.
There's also an element of Zurhaar being a senior player and having right of way currently over Ford also.
This is purely to assess like for like, their impact when they are on the ground for the same time.
All of them are extremely comparable:
- Ford has the best football IQ. He gets the most of the ball per 120 minutes.
- Curtis is the most damaging per possession, he also puts on the most pressure, the eye test would back that up.
- Zurhaar kicks just slightly more goals than Curtis/Ford. I think Ford plays higher up the ground on average so is more dangerous per minute spent I50 than probably both Curtis and Zurhaar. It's because of his overhead ability.
- I think most people would be surprised at Fords scoreboard impact vs Curtis/Zurhaar. He's already as good as both.
- Ford is the best overhead of the 3.
- Fords goal assist and score involvements are good considering his ratio of disposals per inside 50 vs Curtis and Zurhaar.
- Zurhaar is 4 years older than Ford and 5 years older than Curtis.
Now, based on the below, would you be offering 5 or 6 years at $700k+ to Zurhaar, if so, are you prepared to offer that to all 3 of them over the next 2 years?
Based on the below, it's absolutely incredible that Ford has been the sub as much as he has. Curtis and Zurhaar are statistically in our best 10 players, how the coaches have deemed Eddie isn't in the best 22 for 1/3 of this season is almost alarming. How Stephenson has played so much football at half forward over him is mind boggling.
Adjusting TOG back down to 80% for a medium forward, the coaches have basically been miss handling a 22 year old, 15 disposal a game, 35 goal a season medium forward.
Tom Papley averaged 15 disposals a game and kicked 36 in 2023. Kosi Pickett averaged 11 dispoisals and kicked 37.
No player under the age of 23 kicked 35 goals and averaged 15 disposals per game in 2023.
If Ford was afforded the same game time and opportunity as Zurhaar and Curtis, he'd be averaging those numbers in 2024 based on the per minute stats across a big sample size, in a side with the lowest i50 count in the league and having won 1 game for the season.
Some of Fords stats comparatively are as good as Sheezel and Wardlaw for his age and position.
Player Age Age_Decimal Matches Kicks Handballs Disposals Inside50s ContestedPossessions Marks ContestedMarks MarksInside50 Tackles TacklesInside50 Goals_Total Goals_Avg Behinds ShotsAtGoal GoalAssists ScoreInvolvements ScoreInvolvementPercentage OnePercenters Tackles PressureActs Cameron Zurhaar 26 26.61 14 9.4 6.5 15.8 3.2 6.8 4.2 0.8 1.8 3.2 1.8 27.0 1.9 1.2 3.6 0.5 5.9 33.5 1.3 3.2 14.3Eddie Ford 22 22.52 12 9.6 7.7 17.4 1.5 6.9 6.4 0.9 2.2 3.0 1.5 21.2 1.8 0.7 2.8 0.5 5.7 33.2 1.2 3.0 14.8Paul Curtis 21 21.82 15 8.7 5.3 14.0 2.3 6.8 4.3 0.8 1.4 3.3 1.6 26.4 1.8 1.1 3.4 0.7 6.2 35.9 1.0 3.3 17.4
I love this bloke. Cult figure incoming.
Ça plane pour moi absolutely reverberatingOnce he sorts his set shot kicking and decision making out, he could be anything.
I can picture a game in the future where he takes mark of the year, and kicks goal of the year in the same game. All with perfectly waxed Elvis sideburns, while humming All Shook Up and wearing Blue Suede Puma boots.
We all can’t help falling in love with Eddie
I think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lolGunna be a squeeze aye,
No particular order
1. Larkey
2. Zurhaar
3.Curtis
4.Duursma
5.Teakle
6.Pink
7.Comben
8.Ford
9. Small undrafted/ recruited small fwd.
You don't have 75 early draft picks and not have list management issues in the future.
I think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lol
But can they beat the bluws reserve sides of the 80sI think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lol
it worked in '96I think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lol
2026 - North Melbourne AFL, AFLW, VFL & VFLW Premiers.I think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lol
Only one of those players was picked in the top 30 of the draft.Gunna be a squeeze aye,
No particular order
1. Larkey
2. Zurhaar
3.Curtis
4.Duursma
5.Teakle
6.Pink
7.Comben
8.Ford
9. Small undrafted/ recruited small fwd.
You don't have 75 early draft picks and not have list management issues in the future.
Yep I know and the backline is similar. So it was actually going to be a part of a bigger post, ( but not really for this thread) called the 'upcoming squeeze'.Only one of those players was picked in the top 30 of the draft.
I think next year is a good chance if we keep up this level of intent.Yep I know and the backline is similar. So it was actually going to be a part of a bigger post, ( but not really for this thread) called the 'upcoming squeeze'.
A great problem to have, and of course finding good quality footballers with late picks, is the quickest way up the ladder.
Then you add in all the early picks we've had and of course, rightly we expect them to be successful.
I said finals in 2025 about 4 years ago, might not be far wrong .
Or at least the Carlton senior side of the 1980sI think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lol
I can't see it next year. I think we'll be bottom 6 with more wins a bit like the Hawks/Crows type teams.Yep I know and the backline is similar. So it was actually going to be a part of a bigger post, ( but not really for this thread) called the 'upcoming squeeze'.
A great problem to have, and of course finding good quality footballers with late picks, is the quickest way up the ladder.
Then you add in all the early picks we've had and of course, rightly we expect them to be successful.
I said finals in 2025 about 4 years ago, might not be far wrong .
I think that's exactly what he's doing. He's implementing a system where it's not important who the opposition is, we'll be competitive. Supporters talk of trading Ford or whatever was ridiculous. He obviously needs to work a bit on his finishing but you don't let players with talent and flair go. And I'm sure it's never entered their thoughts.I think Big Al is aiming for a list so strong that our reserves could beat any senior team on their day lol
If we play finals next year it will be:I can't see it next year. I think we'll be bottom 6 with more wins a bit like the Hawks/Crows type teams.
However, finals next year would be classic North. Get way ahead of where the list build is actually at.
As you've said before, there's still a lot of potatoes on this list that need to be turned over.
Two more draft and trade periods and that's probably corrected and the list is a bit more balanced hopefully.