Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 10: Everything's 'Peachy...

[Mick F]

500 companies set up does not mean 500 ventures

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us about his income and his businesses.

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There are basically two options; I can accept responsibility for goods and services I receive, or I can stiff the people/businesses that were stupid enough to take me at my word. Society has benefited from the majority of people taking the former as the moral option.

 

[Mick F]

I wouldn't go so far to say you are hanging on to delusions built by a compliant biased conservative media.

Nah forget it, yes I do, You are.

No facts, just Rep/Fox/YouTube talking points.

Banning posters clearly has limited their opportunity for suggesting policies that help the country, like infrastructure programs and deficit reduction. (Rather than the endless harping on about everything that is wrong - all politicians and businessmen are corrupt etc etc)

I’m sure the conversation will quickly turn to more productive discourse. Where we can feel better for logging in, learn something, broaden our knowledge and be lifted up.

 

[Les Malone]

I wouldn't go so far to say you are hanging on to delusions built by a compliant biased conservative media.

Nah forget it, yes I do, You are.

No facts, just Rep/Fox/YouTube talking points.

Well i have to say i have looked at both sides as everyone should.

I think there is a report coming out soon from AG Barr which will shed more light on the Russian collusion that appears to gee you up like a Peter Daicos torpie from 55.

It was a sham investigation designed with only one thing in mind.

That is extremely clear to anyone who is honest with themselves or of course not brainwashed!.

 

[Maggie5]

Banning posters clearly has limited their opportunity for suggesting policies that help the country, like infrastructure programs and deficit reduction. I’m sure the conversation will quickly turn to more productive discourse.

Don't go to too much trouble responding, you can just use this.

 

[Maggie5]

Well i have to say i have looked at both sides as everyone should.

I think there is a report coming out soon from AG Barr which will shed more light on the Russian collusion that appears to gee you up like a Peter Daicos torpie from 55.

It was a sham investigation designed with only one thing in mind.

That is extremely clear to anyone who is honest with themselves or of course not brainwashed!.

Gee, get it right! You are the one fixated on collusion, not me.

 

[RobbieK]

Do you believe he is actually electable?
Assuming he was confirmed as the DNC presidential candidate, have you any doubt that by October the entire MSM would be rooting for a Trump victory?

Yes, he is electable. He would have beaten Trump in 2016 and he can do it if given the chance in 2020.

Trump had the bulk of the MSM rooting against him and he won.

The idea that the MSM would do a 180 on Trump at this point is pretty fantastical.

 

[Les Malone]

Yes, he is electable. He would have beaten Trump in 2016 and he can do it if given the chance in 2020.

Trump had the bulk of the MSM rooting against him and he won.

The idea that the MSM would do a 180 on Trump at this point is pretty fantastical.

He just had a heart attack.

 

[Mick F]

Gee, get it right! You are the one fixated on collusion, not me.

Have they offered their opinion on the treatment of career public servants such as Marie Yovanovitch yet?

 

[Maggie5]

Have they offered their opinion on the treatment of career public servants such as Marie Yovanovitch yet?

Soros spy/plant?

 

[Seeds]

This is in contrast to over-educated liberals who know so much they struggle to cross the street

What exactly does over educated mean? Are you over educated?

 

[yebiga]

Yes, he is electable. He would have beaten Trump in 2016 and he can do it if given the chance in 2020.

Trump had the bulk of the MSM rooting against him and he won.

The idea that the MSM would do a 180 on Trump at this point is pretty fantastical.

Sadly, if Sanders is the dnc candidate it is fantastical that the msm would favour Trump but it also inevitable.

 

[yebiga]

What exactly does over educated mean? Are you over educated?

Essentially, specialised. Our education and our jobs have become increasingly narrow. Educated people today, know a lot about a limited area within a field.
Of course, the internet fills in the gaps with a lot of trivial facts and the media noise - if you follow it - can give you the impression you are well informed. In reality, we aren't.
There are so many new fields and specialities that we don't even dare to develop our own thoughts on those subjects. We are reliant on experts.
Lawyers, Doctors, Accountants, IT Personnel, Engineers every field is increasingly specialised. We are groomed to rely on experts in every field to form our opinions. Thus we are not equiped to sift true the crap and become fodder for others to manipulate.

At work relying on experts is essential and efficient. Civilisation depends on it. But in other political, social, business areas expertise is often self serving mercenary.

Absent a deep and honest educated grounding in history, philosophy, literature, comparative politics, religion, we are simply not equipped to judge contemporary problems. In fact, someone totally uneducated is much more likely to intuit correctly contemporary issues because their mind is not synthetically moulded.

 

[Mick F]

Sadly, if Sanders is the dnc candidate it is fantastical that the msm would favour Trump but it also inevitable.

Undoubtedly the view of the liberal media class is; the mere success of Donald Trump's candidacy is evidence of the failure of journalism. The media failed to communicate the truth with enough force.

Those that felt alienated, that white males were becoming a disadvantaged minority, gave one almighty, two-fingered salute to much of the "mainstream media". As a democracy their vote is valid and is to be accepted. Their representatives are in Congress working for the betterment of their constituents and country. We wish them well with the responsibility that they bear.

 

[Chief]

I think it's all been covered multiple times, but he had over 500 ventures with 6 going bankrupt. Regarding contractors, creditors etc, there were far more winners than losers out of those who worked with Trump.

If he knowingly burned some contractors financially (it's hard to know what to believe) then that's horrible. I don't think he's a particularly nice person, but a position such as POTUS can't be filled by a "nice" personality.

All these "Top 10 worst sins of Donald Trump - number 7 will shock you!" type posts are just so repetitive and lack any nuance.

So ignore them.

 

[Les Malone]

Undoubtedly the view of the liberal media class is; the mere success of Donald Trump's candidacy is evidence of the failure of journalism. The media failed to communicate the truth with enough force.

Those that felt alienated, that white males were becoming a disadvantaged minority, gave one almighty, two-fingered salute to much of the "mainstream media". As a democracy their vote is valid and is to be accepted. Their representatives are in Congress working for the betterment of their constituents and country. We wish them well with the responsibility that they bear.

LOL

In fact it was the opposite, people and many of them began to see through 24/7 wall to wall what Hollywood, academia, politicians, big business, multinationals were telling them day in day out.

lies or simply now known as fake news.

you are 100% wrong

 

[Mick F]

Essentially, specialised. Our education and our jobs have become increasingly narrow. Educated people today, know a lot about a limited area within a field.
Of course, the internet fills in the gaps with a lot of trivial facts and the media noise - if you follow it - can give you the impression you are well informed. In reality, we aren't.
There are so many new fields and specialities that we don't even dare to develop our own thoughts on those subjects. We are reliant on experts.
Lawyers, Doctors, Accountants, IT Personnel, Engineers every field is increasingly specialised. We are groomed to rely on experts in every field to form our opinions. Thus we are not equiped to sift true the crap and become fodder for others to manipulate.

At work relying on experts is essential and efficient. Civilisation depends on it. But in other political, social, business areas expertise is often self serving mercenary.

Absent a deep and honest educated grounding in history, philosophy, literature, comparative politics, religion, we are simply not equipped to judge contemporary problems. In fact, someone totally uneducated is much more likely to intuit correctly contemporary issues because their mind is not synthetically moulded.

With the decimation of middle managers the structure of modern organisations have become flatter, which is less likely to generate skilled specialist operators. Decision makers tend to be generic managers, rather than specialists seen in large bureaucracies. The days of managers staying in the same position are well gone.

Interesting concept that the less knowledge you have the greater the quality of the decision making. Certainly turns ‘evidence based decision making’ on its head. So leaders should all be like Trump: read nothing: consult no-one, dispense with executive management teams and just go with one’s gut feeling? Definitely cuts down on meetings and strategic planning. Consistent with the theory that the manager has all the management skills and the troops very little, rather than they are a leader of a team (Theory Y). Quite a transformation must occur over the weekend when a worker is told Friday afternoon that they have been promoted to Manager, effective Monday.

 

[Mick F]

LOL

In fact it was the opposite, people and many of them began to see through 24/7 wall to wall what Hollywood, academia, politicians, big business, multinationals were telling them day in day out.

lies or simply now known as fake news.

you are 100% wrong

Fake news was borne from alternative news, not the news coming from the media.

But the crux of your views would appear to stem from your belief that academics, community leaders and businesspeople are all lying, untrustworthy, corrupt scumbags, willing to do anything to feather their nests - the working class, the true patriots who put their country first, must fight against the elites.

At business meetings are you true to your beliefs and express your disgust of educated professionals? What about at airports, dentist, doctor, parent/teacher nights, Apple Store?

 

[blackcat]

So read back through the last couple of pages to see who brought Putin into the thread.

Just like who posts about Biden, Hunter, Hillary, Obama, Soros and anything else but Trump etc.



And you have the check to write about 'good faith' posting. lol

Magpie the Five

search <me: + Soros>, I have never mentioned him;
read me on Trump otoh, I been clear, i have benn crystal clear on the bufoon'ish and boor'ish aspects of his personality he has in spades...

in defence of you Maggie5 and #cherf qua Chief, he of unmatched wisdom[sic] (i will give him that one, he deserves that much)

in defence of Chief, he of unmatched wisdom, yourself and Gough of course I act like a harlequin and I could open myself up to concerns of autonomy and imitating Trump

 

[blackcat]

With the decimation of middle managers the structure of modern organisations have become flatter, which is less likely to generate skilled specialist operators. Decision makers tend to be generic managers, rather than specialists seen in large bureaucracies. The days of managers staying in the same position are well gone.

Interesting concept that the less knowledge you have the greater the quality of the decision making. So leaders should all be like Trump: read nothing: consult no-one, dispense with executive management teams and just go with one’s gut feeling? Definitely cuts down on meetings and strategic planning. Consistent with the theory that the manager has all the management skills and troops very little, rather than they are a leader of a team (Theory Y). Quite a transformation must occur over the weekend when a worker is told Friday afternoon that they have been promoted to Manager, effective Monday.

aka legacy capital, the HR legacy that is, decimated

re: second par ^
^ aka Superannuation Union Fund returns

 

[blackcat]

At business meetings are you true to your beliefs and express your disgust of educated professionals? What about at airports, dentist, doctor, Apple Store?

Jonathan Haidt's diversity academy project, to introduce not merely the single lens on political thought in media, the arts, journalism, Hollywood, academe, the NBA, BigTech / SiliconValley

 

[Mick F]

Jonathan Haidt's diversity academy project, to introduce not merely the single lens on political thought in media, the arts, journalism, Hollywood, academe, the NBA, BigTech / SiliconValley

Most of us agree that the greater enquiry the better. Ideas are excellent.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Most of us agree that the greater enquiry the better. Ideas are excellent.

Hmmmm

 

[Crankitup]

And yet no US president has been more confrontational with China, absolutely no backward step going on there. Obama meanwhile, just shut his eyes and pretented China didn't exist. Meanwhile Trump is on the verge of a breakthrough after a brutal 12 month trade war and has still supported those inspirational Hong Kong protesters.

This is a pretty important point. China has been getting away with too much for too long. It's about time someone stood up to them. They have no respect for copyright, patents and intellectual property for instance. Calvin Klein releases something on a Friday and within 48 hours knock off versions are on the streets of Beijing.

 

[yebiga]

With the decimation of middle managers the structure of modern organisations have become flatter, which is less likely to generate skilled specialist operators. Decision makers tend to be generic managers, rather than specialists seen in large bureaucracies. The days of managers staying in the same position are well gone.

Interesting concept that the less knowledge you have the greater the quality of the decision making. Certainly turns ‘evidence based decision making’ on its head. So leaders should all be like Trump: read nothing: consult no-one, dispense with executive management teams and just go with one’s gut feeling? Definitely cuts down on meetings and strategic planning. Consistent with the theory that the manager has all the management skills and the troops very little, rather than they are a leader of a team (Theory Y). Quite a transformation must occur over the weekend when a worker is told Friday afternoon that they have been promoted to Manager, effective Monday.

If you read my post a ittle more carefully, you will notice I was advocating for broad based humanities courses in philosophy, history, literature, comparative politics, economics and religion. These give individuals some principles to fall back on when facing an ever changing environment. Unfortunately, this kind of course has been replaced in the humanities with specialist strands in the airing of grievances.

Absent a true general education in pursuit of something akin to wisdom, yes, I reckon we are better off with managers who know nothing at all, as they're posses the slim chance of possessing some interpersonal skills and human intuition - its of course not certain. The chances of promoting a specialist and hoping he/she will suddenly acquire interpersonal skills which their education to that point has deliberately trained out of them - is slim.

 

[Opts]

fu** off.

I'm amazed at what the mods let YOU get away with. The hypocracy of the left hey.