USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Crankyhawk]

I think you're pretty spot on about the source of support for Trump within the US. And of course, it boils down to self interest.

I'd just like to hear some valid reasons as to why Australians posting on a football forum support Trump.

It’s would be a type of self interest - similar demographic type left behind by change to Australian society, probably compounded by cost of living and housing issues, wanting a simple solution similar to a trump that hurts those that aren’t them - immigrants, the “woke” city types, women etc

 

[BFew]

Also what is Trumps “peaceful” resolution in the Middle East?

 

[Present Not Past]

Bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities to “peaces”.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Someone cut his ketamine with botox.

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You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like.

 

[iDon]

You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like.

60cm vertical leap?

My how standards have dropped.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like.

Fanboying for billionaires.

They're still not gonna FK you.

 

[Satan]

Trump Promised to Release His Medical Records. He Still Won’t Do It.

If elected again, he would become the oldest president by the end of his term. Yet he is refusing to disclose even basic health information.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Blue1980]

Fanboying for billionaires.

They're still not gonna FK you.

But it’s so edgy to be a fan of Elon and Trump cos they own the libs.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Fanboying for billionaires.

They're still not gonna FK you.

First they came for the billionaires, and I did not speak out....

 

[Aussie in exile]

Geez some of these Republicans are nutters

 

[Aussie in exile]

Trump Promised to Release His Medical Records. He Still Won’t Do It.

If elected again, he would become the oldest president by the end of his term. Yet he is refusing to disclose even basic health information.

www.nytimes.com

The same as his tax returns

 

[FireKrakouer]

But it’s so edgy to be a fan of Elon and Trump cos they own the libs.

In seriousness, I don't think Elon really gives a shit about MAGA ideology. IMO he has sided with Trump largely because of Vance and his links with Thiel and other tech bros. Elon first announced his endorsement for Trump a few days prior to the announcement of Trump's VP pick, I'm sure he had the heads up in advance of who the pick was. Even Zuck has praised Trump as being "badass", the pendulum has swung back towards the right for big tech.

The other key reason is Elon's frustration with regulation slowing down SpaceX's progress and Trump's offer to let him have a position where he can reduce that. A total conflict of interest for sure, but as long as it gets results and doesn't impact safety then go for gold I say. Who doesn't want to see man land on Mars? Having been a space nerd since age 5 I'd love to see some quicker progress, it's been 55 years since the moon landing.

 

[Aussie in exile]

In seriousness, I don't think Elon really gives a shit about MAGA ideology. IMO he has sided with Trump largely because of Vance and his links with Thiel and other tech bros. Elon first announced his endorsement for Trump a few days prior to the announcement of Trump's VP pick, I'm sure he had the heads up in advance of who the pick was. Even Zuck has praised Trump as being "badass", the pendulum has swung back towards the right for big tech.

The other key reason is Elon's frustration with regulation slowing down SpaceX's progress and Trump's offer to let him have a position where he can reduce that. A total conflict of interest for sure, but as long as it gets results and doesn't impact safety then go for gold I say. Who doesn't want to see man land on Mars? Having been a space nerd since age 5 I'd love to see some quicker progress, it's been 55 years since the moon landing.

tRump doesn't like immigrants. Musk is an immigrant.

 

[QuietB]

In seriousness, I don't think Elon really gives a shit about MAGA ideology. IMO he has sided with Trump largely because of Vance and his links with Thiel and other tech bros. Elon first announced his endorsement for Trump a few days prior to the announcement of Trump's VP pick, I'm sure he had the heads up in advance of who the pick was. Even Zuck has praised Trump as being "badass", the pendulum has swung back towards the right for big tech.

The other key reason is Elon's frustration with regulation slowing down SpaceX's progress and Trump's offer to let him have a position where he can reduce that. A total conflict of interest for sure, but as long as it gets results and doesn't impact safety then go for gold I say. Who doesn't want to see man land on Mars? Having been a space nerd since age 5 I'd love to see some quicker progress, it's been 55 years since the moon landing.

See, you can identify it is pure self interest.

What can’t you do the same for Trump?

 

[Crankyhawk]

tRump doesn't like immigrants. Musk is an immigrant.

Suspect he is ok with rich immigrants who don’t take from government in welfare (just subsides for industry..)

 

[Satan]

Suspect he is ok with rich immigrants who don’t take from government in welfare (just subsides for industry..)

And white

 

[Blue1980]

In seriousness, I don't think Elon really gives a shit about MAGA ideology. IMO he has sided with Trump largely because of Vance and his links with Thiel and other tech bros. Elon first announced his endorsement for Trump a few days prior to the announcement of Trump's VP pick, I'm sure he had the heads up in advance of who the pick was. Even Zuck has praised Trump as being "badass", the pendulum has swung back towards the right for big tech.

The other key reason is Elon's frustration with regulation slowing down SpaceX's progress and Trump's offer to let him have a position where he can reduce that. A total conflict of interest for sure, but as long as it gets results and doesn't impact safety then go for gold I say. Who doesn't want to see man land on Mars? Having been a space nerd since age 5 I'd love to see some quicker progress, it's been 55 years since the moon landing.

It’s pure self interest with all of them of course, and it always was. Of course the GOP are always going to be better for rich tech bros from a financial and regulatory perspective.

Due to the sick system of donor/lobbyist money in the US, the Dems have to keep up being friendly with Wall Street, billionaires, AiPAC etc as well otherwise it would be like the 80s when they were being outspent all the time and losing.

 

[iBeng]

 

[happy_eagle]

All that wealth, and still has the charisma of a wet blanket

 

[Gough]

Musk gags don't go down so well when people's jobs don't depend on laughing at them.

 

[magpie_marty]

Tina Peters and a magnetic matress,
Keep in mind Tina is an was an avid lindell pillow guy supporter,

Trump Ally Tina Peters Tells Judge She Can't Go To Jail Without 'A Magnetic Mattress': Here's Why

Tina Peters, a Trump supporter convicted of election fraud, is making headlines by refusing jail time unless she is provided with a special magnetic mattress for health reasons.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

 

[pjcrows]

A month out.

Who else is making a prediction?

Trump 281
Harris 257

Let's hear em.

GreyCrow
Harris 270
Trump 268

Financialpanther
Trump 281
Harris 257

FireKrakouer
Harris 289
Trump 252

happy_eagle
Harris 276
Trump 262

Maggie5
Harris 273
Trump 265

Blue1980
Harris 297
Trump 241

campbell
Harris 286
Trump 251

 

[Goosecat]

"State of the Overseas Voter" ( Federal Voting Assistance Program)​

"OUT OF THE 2.8 MILLION OVERSEAS CITIZENS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, 3.4% VOTED IN 2022

Since there is no list of all U.S. citizens living abroad, FVAP compiles foreign and domestic data to estimate the number of voting-age U.S. citizens living in nearly 200 countries around the world. Not every individual in the overseas citizen population is 18 years of age or older and thus old enough to vote. Of the estimated 4.4 million overseas citizens in 2022, about 2.8 million were of voting age.

OF THE ESTIMATED 2.8 MILLION ELIGIBLE OVERSEAS VOTERS, MOST RESIDE IN CANADA AND THE UNITED KINGDOM"

Americans can vote. Wherever they are.

Ensuring Service members, their eligible family members and overseas citizens can vote -- from anywhere in the world.

www.fvap.gov

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"DNC Announces Innovative Six-Figure Investment in Democrats Abroad To Ensure Engagement of Key Voters Living Outside U.S. ​

August 12, 2024" (Democrats.org)​

With under 100 days until Election Day and ahead of the Democratic National Convention, the DNC announced a significant six-figure investment in Democrats Abroad, for the first time ever in a Presidential cycle, helping fund their efforts to win the votes of approximately 9,000,000 Americans.

DNC Announces Innovative Six-Figure Investment in Democrats Abroad To Ensure Engagement of Key Voters Living Outside U.S. - Democrats

democrats.org

Interesting difference between the 2.8 million figure the Federal Voting Assistance Program states can vote from overseas and the 9 million figure the Democrat party claim can vote from overseas lol.

One of many things the "Right" in the USA and Europe completely lost control of over the recent decades; is self awareness of their own naivety.

 

[GreyCrow]

A month out.

Who else is making a prediction?

Trump 281
Harris 257

Let's hear em.

Given the data on Postal votes I have PA for Harris which in my quick look makes it 270-268

Georgia , North Carolina and Arizona red

 

[Financialpanther]

A month out.

Who else is making a prediction?

Trump 281
Harris 257

Let's hear em.

GreyCrow
Harris 270
Trump 268

Sadly - I think it’s trump 281 as well. As crap as he is, people in those close states equate the cost of living to the presidency (and immigration fears)