Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: The Decline of Donald

When will Trump be finished?

  • Right now. Bloke's a dickhead.

    Votes: 35 50.0%

  • We'll let him run, we'll wipe him out after the election. Be way funnier that way!

    Votes: 14 20.0%

  • At some point, Trump will wipe out all options except for him. Send him to jail.

    Votes: 7 10.0%

  • Needs to be next president of the ICC.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Clean the swamp, Trump2025!

    Votes: 13 18.6%

  • It's not enough to just elect him, him ahead of anyone else!

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Total voters
    70

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SBD Gonzalez said:
Good article. Francis Fukuyama on Trump.

So a third of Republican voters actually like the idea of Trump as dictator.

Well if he gets in on the strength of them, eff ‘em all, they deserve what’s coming to them, but bloody hell, I feel for the millions of kind, decent Americans having to live under the rule of people who actually think they were geniuses to come up with using democracy to end democracy.

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If America buckles to a rampant Trump, it may be the end of history

The US Constitution was designed to guard against the rise of a despot. A second Trump presidency would sorely test its safeguards.
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Similar argument made here about Latino support for Trump.
Was quite interesting and eye-opening for me.
Essentially, the idea of communism/socialism as equal to corruption, terrible work and life conditions, is deeply ingrained in those coming to the US from various nations in Latin/South America. Understandably given their experience there, many of the governments and leaders they've lived through previously.
And hence the idea of the strongman appeals.

 

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samFFC said:
Similar argument made here about Latino support for Trump.
Was quite interesting and eye-opening for me.
Essentially, the idea of communism/socialism as equal to corruption, terrible work and life conditions, is deeply ingrained in those coming to the US from various nations in Latin/South America. Understandably given their experience there, many of the governments and leaders they've lived through previously.
And hence the idea of the strongman appeals.

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It doesn't make much sense though. There's not much difference between living under a supposedly communist dictatorship and a supposedly fascist dictatorship. What they both have in common is that an authoritarian regime has to squash all resistance in order to retain power. That means they take control of the media, ban opposition parties, and extend very few real freedoms to their subjects. They create a layer of oligarchs who take control of the wealth and assets. It matters not whether there was originally some kind of ideology underlying the regime. They all look pretty similar in the end. And they all have a "strongman" at the top.

If immigrants from South America have lived under such regimes and hated them, you'd think they'd want to preserve democracy at all costs, however flawed the democracy is. They'd recognise the signs of a potential strongman and understand the dangers.
 
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liz said:
It doesn't make much sense though. There's not much difference between living under a supposedly communist dictatorship and a supposedly fascist dictatorship. What they both have in common is that an authoritarian regime has to squash all resistance in order to retain power. That means they take control off the media, ban opposition parties, and extend very few real freedoms to their subjects. They create a layer of oligarchs who take control of the wealth and assets. It matters not whether there was originally some kind of ideology underlying the regime. They all look pretty similar in the end. And they all have a "strongman" at the top.

If immigrants from South America have lived under such regimes and hated them, you'd think they'd want to preserve democracy at all costs, however flawed the democracy is. They'd recognise the signs of a potential strongman and understand the dangers.
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Yes, but the brainwashing of people is strong.

They associate communism/socialism to being anti democratic in and of itself. And capitalism is freedom in and of itself.

Point being if you are for free and fair elections you can have whatever economic strategy and theories you like within the paradigm of democracy.
 
Romeoh1 said:
Yep- all about the almighty dollar. Not good enough.
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Lot's of people of have proved it's possible to pursue the almighty dollar and not be sociopathic, Trump has just unleashed the worst of them.
 

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liz said:
It doesn't make much sense though. There's not much difference between living under a supposedly communist dictatorship and a supposedly fascist dictatorship. What they both have in common is that an authoritarian regime has to squash all resistance in order to retain power. That means they take control of the media, ban opposition parties, and extend very few real freedoms to their subjects. They create a layer of oligarchs who take control of the wealth and assets. It matters not whether there was originally some kind of ideology underlying the regime. They all look pretty similar in the end. And they all have a "strongman" at the top.

If immigrants from South America have lived under such regimes and hated them, you'd think they'd want to preserve democracy at all costs, however flawed the democracy is. They'd recognise the signs of a potential strongman and understand the dangers.
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Totally agree with you.
As Blue1980 pointed out though, it’s the constant repetition of theme - socialism=communism=bad=Democrat
That the GOP is so good at doing.
 

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