Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: The Decline of Donald

[ShanDog]

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[Blue1980]

A few more sleeps and our mate Donnie to pretend he won the election

Corrected for you. Though you I am sure you will be along for that ride.

 

[magpie_marty]

According to that great site The Gateway Pundit DonOld is leading via 10 Points In Iowa
Posters there mention De Moins and its Chinese owned.
Voting is rigged etc etc.
I must stop going there these people are Insane.

 

[Xtreme]

Corrected for you. Though you I am sure you will be along for that ride.

Win lose or draw its going to be a wild ride

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

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Well I’m sure glad you cleared that up we wouldn’t want any misinformation now would we

He’s so shit at damage control - just makes it worse every time.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Not just my view of course, a highly recommended read on the subject:

That’s an amazing book. An absolute eye-opener.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

they are trump's nutters who actually want an end to the world end for the “rapture”

Yes these are the ones who worry me the most.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

weird ass way to eat a corndog

Could be right though - look at the way he drinks water , descends a ramp, opens a truck door and closes an umbrella- he doesn’t do normal very well

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Inappropriate sexual innuendo is a common sign of dementia.

And here I was thinking dementia is only a bad thing.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

And this is the frustrating point …Biden and Harris are held to a much much higher standards than Trump

It’s extremely confusing and disappointing how the media and public have treated them in comparison to Trump

I can’t get my head around it

And yet “the left” are hypocrites apparently.

 

[samFFC]

Iowa poll spells the end for Trump.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-tops-trump-latest-iowa-poll-marking-turnaround-des-moines-register-survey-2024-11-03/

Harris had the good sense to emphasise the impact of RvW in Iowa, once their archaic law came back into effect.

Harris urges Americans to vote after six-week abortion ban takes effect in Iowa

Court reinstates ban after lengthy legal battle in a decision pro-choice advocates call ‘violation of human rights’

www.theguardian.com

Amazingly, there has been essentially no polling since then, with assumption Trump gets another cruisy victory. This is a major red alert. Georgia and NC are two swing states where restrictive laws came into effect. The Georgia Supreme court had the good sense to promptly reinstate their significantly restrictive law less than 2 months before an election.

Georgia Supreme Court Reinstates Six-Week Abortion Ban | American Civil Liberties Union

ATLANTA — The Supreme Court of Georgia issued a ruling today staying a trial court decision striking down H.B. 481, a ban on abortion after...

www.aclu.org

 

[samFFC]

For context, Iowa background - always important in primary season, but Federally has been less so for a while

Obama won it twice, Trump has won it twice - Won it by 10 points in 2016, 8 points in 2020.

Senate wise they’ve had one very longstanding (since 1981!!) GOP senator, the other one won in 2014 and comfortably won in 2020. Tellingly, the polls around Iowa in 2020 were WAY off.

In that Senate election, the polls were basically a toss up - some showed the Dem ahead, some the Rep ahead, and she ended up winning by >6 points. 51.7-45.1

2020 United States Senate election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Importantly, the Des Moines register poll had it 46-42 to the republican (11% undecided).

Similarly, in the Pres election, the polls were again tight. Trump ahead by 1-2 points at most, and lots of polls had it 50/50 or Biden ahead. Selzer/Des Moines poll had it 48-41 (8% other, 2% undecided) to Trump, which was easily an outlier.

2020 United States presidential election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result - Trump 53.1-45.9%. Essentially bang on.


It’s over.

 

[GreyCrow]

Georgia and NC are two swing states where restrictive laws came into effect. The Georgia Supreme court had the good sense to promptly reinstate their significantly restrictive law less than 2 months before an election.

University of Florida have released data suggesting women in Georgia are voting at +10% of men

As an example in person early voting the figures are 2,087,997 female to men 1,644,378 - 12% more women already voted

A similar margin in NC where 2.2m females v 1.8m men have early voted

This could be skewed by a feeling of safety doing early voting as opposed to Tuesday voting - or again its just a trend now where people take the option to do so early

 

[Randomizor]

For context, Iowa background - always important in primary season, but Federally has been less so for a while

Obama won it twice, Trump has won it twice - Won it by 10 points in 2016, 8 points in 2020.

Senate wise they’ve had one very longstanding (since 1981!!) GOP senator, the other one won in 2014 and comfortably won in 2020. Tellingly, the polls around Iowa in 2020 were WAY off.

In that Senate election, the polls were basically a toss up - some showed the Dem ahead, some the Rep ahead, and she ended up winning by >6 points. 51.7-45.1

2020 United States Senate election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Importantly, the Des Moines register poll had it 46-42 to the republican (11% undecided).

Similarly, in the Pres election, the polls were again tight. Trump ahead by 1-2 points at most, and lots of polls had it 50/50 or Biden ahead. Selzer/Des Moines poll had it 48-41 (8% other, 2% undecided) to Trump, which was easily an outlier.

2020 United States presidential election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result - Trump 53.1-45.9%. Essentially bang on.


It’s over.

Yep absolutely horrible week for Trump. Could not have been any worse. Let’s see what misstep he makes tomorrow.

 

[JeffreyCC]

Former president Donald Trump told a crowd in Lititz, Pennsylvania, that he wouldn’t mind if a shooter were to “shoot through” the press.

“To get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news, and I don’t mind that so much,” Trump said.

He also called the press “seriously corrupt people”.I’m https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...arris-iowa-poll-us-presidential-election-live

 

[Randomizor]

Former president Donald Trump told a crowd in Lititz, Pennsylvania, that he wouldn’t mind if a shooter were to “shoot through” the press.

“To get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news, and I don’t mind that so much,” Trump said.

He also called the press “seriously corrupt people”.I’m https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...arris-iowa-poll-us-presidential-election-live

He’s already lost and he knows it. Just trying to stir up shit now.

 

[Randomizor]

For context, Iowa background - always important in primary season, but Federally has been less so for a while

Obama won it twice, Trump has won it twice - Won it by 10 points in 2016, 8 points in 2020.

Senate wise they’ve had one very longstanding (since 1981!!) GOP senator, the other one won in 2014 and comfortably won in 2020. Tellingly, the polls around Iowa in 2020 were WAY off.

In that Senate election, the polls were basically a toss up - some showed the Dem ahead, some the Rep ahead, and she ended up winning by >6 points. 51.7-45.1

2020 United States Senate election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Importantly, the Des Moines register poll had it 46-42 to the republican (11% undecided).

Similarly, in the Pres election, the polls were again tight. Trump ahead by 1-2 points at most, and lots of polls had it 50/50 or Biden ahead. Selzer/Des Moines poll had it 48-41 (8% other, 2% undecided) to Trump, which was easily an outlier.

2020 United States presidential election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result - Trump 53.1-45.9%. Essentially bang on.


It’s over.

And to note this pollster is the highest rated pollster by all the aggregators. What this poll means is one of two things:

• The pollster has put their entire reputation (built up over decades) on the line by providing one of, if not the, worst polls this cycle
• Kamalandslide

It’s very unlikely to be anything in between.

For those that don’t believe me, go here, turn Iowa blue and see what happens:

Explore The Ways Trump Or Harris Could Win The 2024 Election

Use our "what-if" tool to pick a winner in each state and see how it would change 538's 2024 presidential election forecast.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[Satan]

Former president Donald Trump told a crowd in Lititz, Pennsylvania, that he wouldn’t mind if a shooter were to “shoot through” the press.

“To get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news, and I don’t mind that so much,” Trump said.

He also called the press “seriously corrupt people”.I’m https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...arris-iowa-poll-us-presidential-election-live

Lets tone the the rhetoric also said by Trump

 

[Satan]

Trump Media Outsourced Jobs to Mexico Even as Trump Pushes “America First”

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump threatened businesses that send jobs south of the border, while his own company that runs the Truth Social platform outsourced coding jobs to workers in Mexico, outraging some staff members.

www.propublica.org

Rules for me not for thee

 

[troybe]

Pardon me, Donald?

 

[Maggie5]

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Well I’m sure glad you cleared that up we wouldn’t want any misinformation now would we

It is funny but of all the things I have seen posted on here, that is one that I could almost post saying, 'fake news'.

This is the guy that wants to be President and I no longer know what is real or fantasy.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Trump Media Outsourced Jobs to Mexico Even as Trump Pushes “America First”

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump threatened businesses that send jobs south of the border, while his own company that runs the Truth Social platform outsourced coding jobs to workers in Mexico, outraging some staff members.

www.propublica.org

Rules for me not for thee

I wonder if donny rump fans on here want to discuss this?

 

[GreyCrow]

I wonder if donny rump fans on here want to discuss this?

tHe DuDEs a sMArT BusiNESsman

 

[Blue1980]

I wonder if donny rump fans on here want to discuss this?

He was being sarcastic, we misundstood the cadence of his tone, but Kamala etc.

If those don’t get the job done, clutch pearls about how mean we all are for not buying it.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

He’s already lost and he knows it. Just trying to stir up shit now.

Bulwark Podcast had Ann Selzer on this morning , her Poll has serious form and as she explained the Harris support amongst older women who intend to vote is massive and probably more than enough to counter his strength with younger men.
Interestingly when you dig into her survey data the predominate reason is Harris will respect Democracy with Abortion as the next most significant reason.
Iowa is only 6 ECV's but if the trend in this Poll extends to the other Swing States Trump is toast.
James Carville , the crusty old commentator , predicted a landslide type result to either candidate and not a close race.
God I hope he's right and it goes the way of team Kamala..............

 

[Randomizor]

It's hard to imagine a candidate hitting themselves in the balls as much as Trump has in the past week or two.

I am ever so excited to see how he tanks his campaign even further today