4th Ashes Test England v Australia July 19-23 1930hrs @ Old Trafford

[Substance]

Stokes : there are bigger things for us than winning the Ashes.
In all seriouslyness...

They've disappeared up their own arse.

 

[Mr Meow]

Peter Bixley curry update for fellow expats 4 hours away from bed?

 

[KBLT]

If the poms had actually won the first two games, rather than just didactically claiming they won them morally, they wouldn't be in this situation.

Oh well.

 

[Mr Meow]

If the poms had actually won the first two games, rather than just didactically claiming they won them morally, they wouldn't be in this situation.

Oh well.

Just one of them would've been fine. England 2-1 heading into the last Test and everyone would be roaring about what a thrilling series this was.

 

[Rabish Binney]

"Ex Submarine Service, Spurs Fan, Straight Talker."

Spurs fan…

Enough said.

I'll be honest and say that under normal circumstances this isn't the way I'd like to see Australia retain the Ashes.

However considering;
1. England were kissed on the D by the weather conditions in the first 3 Tests (bar 30 minutes at Edgbaston)
2. The extraordinary run of luck Stokes enjoyed in winning the toss 4 out 4 times.
3. The rub of the green in DRS reviews.
4. The mouth breathing Robinson and his defence of the indefensible.
5. The mental gymnastics after Birmingham of claiming they were the better team after losing.
6. The breathtaking hypocrisy after the Bairstow stumping at Lords and the entitlement complex of the Lords members.
7. As ever the dear Barmy Army and their hordes of lager sodden morons in the cheap seats.

Shove it up your ginger Poms.

Sorry. Not sorry.

Outstanding post.

 

[Freezin]

I reckon if Eng were to lose at the Oval, it will probably hurt, more then today. Definitely shut down any narrative of "if only it hadn't rained in Manchester eh".

On to the Oval, could be Cummins last test as the Aust skipper. Not sure Aust can go in with the same 11, Murphy for Green and definitely Aust can't go in with the same 3 fast boys who were Bazballed all over the park on days 2 and 3?

Hazlewood got a battered 5 for, Cummins is the skipper....so Starc surely must be in the gun. I like Boland, but he has had 2 opportunities with minimal success..... Neser for Starc. The fella more then deserves a chance and some fresh legs in the team is definitely needed.

 

[MinerBoy]

I am talking about the Aussie players, not flog supporters like yourself, they would have wanted to decide the game on the field not the dressing room.

Even Cummins looked flat, I don't think they will be whooping it up in the dressing room popping bottles of champagne like if they had won this game.

I am not just saying that because it's the Aussie players either, I wouldn't want to see the NZ players whooping it up if they retained a trophy this way.

It was decided on the field. Rain happens, weather happens. It’s a 5 match series which decides the results. We are 2-1 up after 3 (now 4).

I know it’s disappointing that this is the first ever weather affected game of cricket but luckily a series is decided over multiple matches and not the 3 days the team want to win was in the ascendancy.



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[the_interloper]

You beauty, be funny if they beat us by an innings in the 5th test I reckon, **** em

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

More pertinently, why isn't it televised more often?

On the comedy channel

 

[MinerBoy]

You beauty, be funny if they beat us by an innings in the 5th test I reckon, * em

Funnier if we beat them by an innings


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[Nicho50]

Far out the Pommy media is shocking , I like Michael Vaughan but he’s sprouting saying it’s not the right way to retain the ashes, bet they didn’t mind in 13 did they. Banging on saying England are the better side, yes they dominated this test match but let’s face it they didn’t win it and they didn’t win the first two tests where they were outplayed and Australia was ultimately the better side.

Bairstow probably cost them both games with his sub par keeping and this game any chance they had have taking 20 wickets was reduced when they let Bairstow have a bash to try get a 100.

Hope we come out and flog them in the last test, maybe it will shut the whinging Pommy media up.

Some of the players are downright sooks. Could you imagine if any of our players like Lab or Starc come out and said a series is void if we didn’t win it or we are hard done by the rain or we’ve been the better side etc. Our guys just shut their mouths and play.

Sounds like Woakes is injured and surely they can’t give Jimmy a charity game.

Marsh can’t be dropped so if they want spin Murphy in Green out , they won’t drop Warner now and who knows with the freedom of the ashes retained he might go out and hit some runs. Somehow they have to fit Neser in he is the form bowler / and one of the form batsman too. Hazelwood took 5 but looked ordinary and Cummins looks spent but they won’t rest the skipper. Starc maybe sore? But if he’s fit he’s been our best bowler and probably one of our biggest positives of the series.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Far out the Pommy media is shocking , I like Michael Vaughan but he’s sprouting saying it’s not the right way to retain the ashes, bet they didn’t mind in 13 did they. Banging on saying England are the better side, yes they dominated this test match but let’s face it they didn’t win it and they didn’t win the first two tests where they were outplayed and Australia was ultimately the better side.

Bairstow probably cost them both games with his sub par keeping and this game any chance they had have taking 20 wickets was reduced when they let Bairstow have a bash to try get a 100.

Hope we come out and flog them in the last test, maybe it will shut the whinging Pommy media up.

Some of the players are downright sooks. Could you imagine if any of our players like Lab or Starc come out and said a series is void if we didn’t win it or we are hard done by the rain or we’ve been the better side etc. Our guys just shut their mouths and play.

Sounds like Woakes is injured and surely they can’t give Jimmy a charity game.

Marsh can’t be dropped so if they want spin Murphy in Green out , they won’t drop Warner now and who knows with the freedom of the ashes retained he might go out and hit some runs. Somehow they have to fit Neser in he is the form bowler / and one of the form batsman too. Hazelwood took 5 but looked ordinary and Cummins looks spent but they won’t rest the skipper. Starc maybe sore? But if he’s fit he’s been our best bowler and probably one of our biggest positives of the series.

Michael Vaughan - captain of the 2005 side that used breath mints to shine the ball which is ball tampering under the rules of cricket.

I’m astonished that no Aussie media person has never raised this with Vaughan. Yet Vaughan himself has no issue with raising the sandpaper issue…

Let’s not forget also his role in the Yorkshire racial fiasco.

Guy is a deadset hypocrite. Not surprised however as the soap dodgers all seem to be the same.

 

[Foucault1989]

Brave effort from Australia to survive the day and retain the Ashes while sitting on their arses in the dressing room.

The highlights of Louise Ransome and Tubby Taylor being huddled under an umbrella at Old Trafford will live on in Aussie cricket folklore.




NZ lost the 2019 ODI World Cup to the Poms in dramatic circumstances too.

I was pissed off that we lost it but I was grateful that I got to witness one of the great ODI finals of all time rather than it being decided by a washout.

Why does it feel like we've done something wrong because it was a washout?

 

[Boston tiger]

I am talking about the Aussie players, not flog supporters like yourself, they would have wanted to decide the game on the field not the dressing room.

Even Cummins looked flat, I don't think they will be whooping it up in the dressing room popping bottles of champagne like if they had won this game.

I am not just saying that because it's the Aussie players either, I wouldn't want to see the NZ players whooping it up if they retained a trophy this way.

I don’t think you understand the Ashes . Which is fair enough

 

[scottywiper]

Anderson playing for stats. 4 wickets at 77. Been woeful.
Interestingly, saw a familiar face after game... Security was telling him to move and he refused to budge.
Couldn't quite place him for a while, it was Lucas Neill and he ended up being taken up to Aussie rooms.

 

[Hojuman]

" King Charles and the ECB declare Australia a Republic "

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

Punter destroying KP live on air still the highlight of the whole series for mine.

Reached into to his soul, dragged it out kicking and screaming, and pissed all over it. Glorious.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Why does it feel like we've done something wrong because it was a washout?

The pommy press are astounding they way they are carrying on.

They seem to have forgetten and have overlooked the fact that the Poms were down 2-0.

We have had no praise whatsoever.

At least Nasser Hussain bought some clarity to the commentary when he criticised Stokes for his captaincy in the 1st test when they needed 2 wickets and we 60 odd runs…said that the poms bowled appallingly then.

Apart from that, you’d swear that the Poms were 4 nil up.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Is it just me or is the English complaining at the absloute worst it ever been?

 

[The hands of stone]

Stokes : there are bigger things for us than winning the Ashes.
In all seriouslyness...

Incredible stuff......would he say that if they won tbe series . Highly doubt it .

 

[Peter Bixley]

Peter Bixley curry update for fellow expats 4 hours away from bed?

Abandoned the idea and went for a carvery instead. Couldn't run the risk of flatulence at work tomorrow

 

[Linda Lovelace]

It's insane how much this 'retain' bollocks narrative infects the entire discourse while the series is still on the line just like it did last time.

We haven't won anything. If we lose the next game, we draw the series. The point of a series is to win it, not draw it. In what other series would we prematurely celebrate a potential draw? All over a little urn that we physically don't 'retain' anyway.

Just bizarre, nonsensical behaviour and it's completely normalised.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Is it just me or is the English complaining at the absloute worst it ever been?

No, it’s the worst it’s ever been.

I’m over here in the UK on holidays and it is quite frankly unbelievable.

I’ve never seen as much hatred for the Australians as this in the media.

Unfortunately they just can’t bring themselves to question Bazball, Stokes or McCallum.

They are more delusional than ever.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Is it just me or is the English complaining at the absloute worst it ever been?

Internet means we have more exposure to it.

 

[scottywiper]

Is it just me or is the English complaining at the absloute worst it ever been?

Are you familiar with the term... Whinging Pom....