Conspiracy Theory 9/11 - Part 2

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Freak Dodgeball Accident said:
Interesting that everyone seems to have ignored the Pilots For 911 post by GG.
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i lack the expertise to point out the mistakes made. you can find the simplest reconstruction (with NEADS audio)


less exciting reconstruction:


even truthers have "published" as much in their sham journal:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Calibration of altimeter_92.pdf

every piece of evidence re flight 77 is available here. it appears exhaustive.

http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com.au/


in sum:
Provided is a combination of security camera footage, first hand eye witness accounts plus a summary of 136 eye witness accounts, RADAR data with ATC recordings, NTSB FDR data, damage to the Pentagon, damage to the surroundings, over 60 images of American Airlines and Boeing debris, full explanation and time line excerpt, DNA summaries, hijacker profile, and all round overwhelming evidence that American Airlines 77, and only American Airlines 77, impacted the Pentagon on 9/11.
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After any review of the facts (not theories on ghost planes/holograms or blue-beam space weapons) it is just too hard to believe the official story. Dick Cheney was in control of something at the Pentagon...so much more to it than Osama and his 19 hijackes. Too much conflicting evidence (or at least evidence of events and occurrences that have to be explained by it being an inside job of sorts). It was not the entire US government, nor was it Osama and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Big corporations involved in the military and information technology/security companies had some hand in pulling off this massive psy-op.
 
Samsara said:
I like what Aaron Russo has to say, sums it up nicely.

I'm with topjars, the official story is just a crock of shit.
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Barry Jennings provided interesting insights into WTC7 - before either tower had collapsed there was at least one bomb that went off in WTC7. He is now dead.
 
luapjb said:
Barry Jennings provided interesting insights into WTC7 - before either tower had collapsed there was at least one bomb that went off in WTC7. He is now dead.
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Are you saying Jennings knew too much? Didn't he die in 2010 or something like that?

Holy shut the barn door after the horse has bolted, batman!


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Kellythatsit said:
Are you saying Jennings knew too much? Didn't he die in 2010 or something like that?

Holy shut the barn door after the horse has bolted, batman!


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Although the way I wrote it seemed like I was insinuating that he was killed in order to shut him up, I do not have any evidence that he was, nor do I believe that to be the case. He said plenty in the years after 9/11 about his experiences on that day, and years passed before he died so I doubt he was "hit".
 
luapjb said:
After any review of the facts (not theories on ghost planes/holograms or blue-beam space weapons) it is just too hard to believe the official story. Dick Cheney was in control of something at the Pentagon...so much more to it than Osama and his 19 hijackes. Too much conflicting evidence (or at least evidence of events and occurrences that have to be explained by it being an inside job of sorts). It was not the entire US government, nor was it Osama and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Big corporations involved in the military and information technology/security companies had some hand in pulling off this massive psy-op.
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It was done as justification for war against any remaining sovereign states in the middle east, and any other that might try to direct themselves rather than obey UN mandates.
History now tells us this is exactly what happened, puppet government exists but everything comes under UN authority. The war on terror was launched, a means of threatening individual or state who refuse to tow that line.
That's why they pulled the towers, to be seen in the right when they went to war, it was part of a global takeover plan.
 
they're probably crap at videogames?

i mean what's that nonsense meant to prove, given we know 3 of the 4 planes hit their targets?
 
meto said:
It was done as justification for war against any remaining sovereign states in the middle east, and any other that might try to direct themselves rather than obey UN mandates.
History now tells us this is exactly what happened, puppet government exists but everything comes under UN authority. The war on terror was launched, a means of threatening individual or state who refuse to tow that line.
That's why they pulled the towers, to be seen in the right when they went to war, it was part of a global takeover plan.
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I see, so that's why they blamed it on 15 Saudis, 2 UAE, 1 Lebanese and 1 Egyptian ... So they could go to war with ... Iraq ... Afghanistan ... Wait a second!


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Long Live HFC said:
they're probably crap at videogames?

i mean what's that nonsense meant to prove, given we know 3 of the 4 planes hit their targets?
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It means the planes were not hand flown.... So the Flight management system would have to have been programmed to fly the manoeuvre because even experienced crews would not have been able to fly that accurately at that speed. Looking at the flight paths of all three flight prior to being hit the flight path looks pretty complicated which would point to a flight path pre programmed.....

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IMO what ever hit those 3 targets were flown remotely.....
 
nut said:
It means the planes were not hand flown.... So the Flight management system would have to have been programmed to fly the manoeuvre because even experienced crews would not have been able to fly that accurately at that speed. Looking at the flight paths of all three flight prior to being hit the flight path looks pretty complicated which would point to a flight path pre programmed.....

or
IMO what ever hit those 3 targets were flown remotely.....
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nope. all it proves is that someone couldn't hit the targets in a computer game.
 
being quite the nerd i bet i know far more about games, gaming and flight sims than you. regardless of the sophistication of the software they remain in the same ballpark. black shark and arma are used as training tools, but it doesn't follow that they are an exact replica of real life.

just because some flight sim enthusiast couldn't replicate the acts doesn't tell us much of anything, except what they could do in a sim (and we're also taking their word for it too).
 
Long Live HFC said:
being quite the nerd i bet i know far more about games, gaming and flight sims than you. regardless of the sophistication of the software they remain in the same ballpark. black shark and arma are used as training tools, but it doesn't follow that they are an exact replica of real life.

just because some flight sim enthusiast couldn't replicate the acts doesn't tell us much of anything, except what they could do in a sim (and we're also taking their word for it too).
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Having flown multiple full motion flight simulators..... Which the instructor in the clip was referring to, not some Microsoft keyboard computer game ...I can tell you it's the same as flying the real thing, and is regarded as the real thing by CASA and every other aviation governing body.
 
nut said:
Having flown multiple full motion flight simulators..... Which the instructor in the clip was referring to, not some Microsoft keyboard computer game ...I can tell you it's the same as flying the real thing, and is regarded as the real thing by CASA and every other aviation governing body.
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