Retired #9: Brendon Goddard - Retires a winner - Thanks for everything BJ

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Wrong approach from him but i understand his frustration... He actually comes from a very successful side who has made it to Grand Finals so it most likely burns his wee wee pretty bad at the way we are playing...

We are stuck at the moment and its systematic...
 
After being there today and then reading about what he did I was very happy with his attitude. Apart from his kick across goal which cost us, I love how he actually showed some spirit and pride in his performance as I think there is too many letting the team and the club down. Today was just disgusting to watch, very disappointed
 

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I'm likely to get roasted for this, but oh well.

I'm sick of this guy's finger pointing attitude. The footage of him having a domestic with other players isn't a good sign of leadership, good leaders get the message across, not carry on like banana heads.

Today I witnessed a spurt of play where Goddard jumped early for the mark, missed the ball and then blamed another player for it.

If I was his teammate and he was making stupid mistakes like that but openly telling me off, I'd probably tell him to **** off too.
 
Phone said:
there's a time and place for everything. If Goddard was being proactive, that's one thing, but clearly he was being extremely reactive, the game was already basically lost when this stuff happened, so all he's done is brought needless attention to himself and his team-mates, when the words could have been said in private quarters.
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I agree. Those words probably needed to be said later as part of a constructive, self-reflective q & a and analysis. If what he had to say was in-line with what the coaches have been trying to get the players to understand, though, I don't have an issue with. It needs to be a uniform message, though. Sometimes a constructive spray can be a circuit breaker.
 
Even when the team is mostly poor, BJ has a quality about his game that stays on a decent level. Even though he made a kicking error at the start, it was helped by the fast intercept by sidebottom.

In a game where our team actually play to a structure and well, BJ gets even better.
 
ghostdog said:
Even Zerrett only laid 4.
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With all of our fastest players out of the side, I wonder if everyone was just playing on someone slightly faster than himself, being under more pressure and doing more stupid shit than they otherwise might have. Doesn't really excuse it, but it seems an interesting set of circumstances.
 
Lore said:
With all of our fastest players out of the side, I wonder if everyone was just playing on someone slightly faster than himself, being under more pressure and doing more stupid shit than they otherwise might have. Doesn't really excuse it, but it seems an interesting set of circumstances.
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Maybe so, together with fatigue from more minutes on-field after the injuries. It would be interesting to see quarter by quarter stats. I'm quite sure that up until we lost Green and Begley we were fairly even and competitive. Collingwood disposed by foot more than hand this week, probably shows they had more time with the ball with our quicks mostly out.
 
ghostdog said:
Maybe so, together with fatigue from more minutes on-field after the injuries. It would be interesting to see quarter by quarter stats. I'm quite sure that up until we lost Green and Begley we were fairly even and competitive. Collingwood disposed by foot more than hand this week, probably shows they had more time with the ball with our quicks mostly out.
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I took screenshots of the GPS tracker stats at the end of each quarter, could probably stare at them for a bit. They're mostly like top 5 per stat stuff though.
 

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BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!! said:
I would keep him on as an assitant coach
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Yeah I don’t know about that.

I don’t think he has good communication skills and a manner that suits coaching.

He was interviewed a few weeks ago here on 6PR one night and it was interesting hearing him talk about his footy.

They asked him about his love of golf and on he went about how he loves to “ get away from everything “...footy and homelife.

He’s a different sort of bloke who sounds like he’s in his own little universe of self.

He’s finished as a league pro player and knows it. But will grind it out to the bitter end no doubt.
 
The irony of the situation is that Goddard ( a gifted player ) is still in the best three or four players at EFC - Now if we EFC have really improved as a team, then Goddard should be around 10th to 12th best player - Will aid the media is a joke - They reference Goddard's disagreements with players by considering the amount of chatter on social media - So we have a case of the media being influenced by fools on social media.
 
Lore said:
There's critical constructive and then there's critical toxic. I don't think any of the people he yelled at felt that he was being constructive. At least it didn't look like they thought so.
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You are making a big assumption by claiming Goddard was yelling at players - We have no idea unless we are on the ground.
 
Phone said:
there's a time and place for everything. If Goddard was being proactive, that's one thing, but clearly he was being extremely reactive, the game was already basically lost when this stuff happened, so all he's done is brought needless attention to himself and his team-mates, when the words could have been said in private quarters.
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Like Lore you are making an ill-informed assumption - Goddard may have spoken to players several times during the game - The coverage only shows snapshots of the total game.
 
yaco55 said:
The irony of the situation is that Goddard ( a gifted player ) is still in the best three or four players at EFC - Now if we EFC have really improved as a team, then Goddard should be around 10th to 12th best player
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This is quite true; I think everyone is very hard on Goddard because the expectations of him as a player are high. That combined with his demonstrative nature does make him a bit of a whipping boy.

I think he needs to rein in some of the more adventurous things he tries to do that he just doesn't get away with any more, but he's far from our biggest problem.

We need other players to step up so that Goddard doesn't have to get 30 disposals in the back half, so that he isn't in our top-5 players still, and so that he isn't the only one trying to make passes that open up the game.

You could see in part of the Daniher v Goddard footage he was repeating "find your man" - something we know was an issue a fortnight ago.

Play him forward this week and tell him to lead by example; put the pressure on Goddard to make his actions match his words, and put the blowtorch on the forward group to follow him.
 
yaco55 said:
Like Lore you are making an ill-informed assumption - Goddard may have spoken to players several times during the game - The coverage only shows snapshots of the total game.
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How many times does a 28 year old David Zaharakis need to be told something before it sinks into his head?

It's been 482, if we say politely another three times to get to 485 we'll have hit the threshold and he'll start doing what he's told?
 
BrunoV said:
How many times does a 28 year old David Zaharakis need to be told something before it sinks into his head?

It's been 482, if we say politely another three times to get to 485 we'll have hit the threshold and he'll start doing what he's told?
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I’ve always liked David, but as much as he is gifted physically he's not the brightest. By no means is he flat out dumb, but his mental game does not match his physical.
 

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