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The Storm made the NRL Grand Final several years running...and they had to play at ANZ every time despite the Storm having access to the much larger and much better MCG.
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The Storm made the NRL Grand Final several years running...and they had to play at ANZ every time despite the Storm having access to the much larger and much better MCG.
jackrabbitslims
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In 100 years AFL and NRL will be giant corporations,traditions will matter little,they will merge for mega fortunes and the game will be called rollerball.Crowd attendances or location will be of little importance.
UrLordUnbeliever
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I really think that each state should be able to host the AFL Grand Final. I realise that it probably won't happen, and WA, SA and QLD do not have stadiums big enough to do that yet, but hopefully one day it will.
In favour of moving the GF around, as long as the other grounds had 100k-ish capacity. Only ground that comes close to the MCG is ANZ Stadium.
If ground capacity wasn't an issue, I wouldn't mind having the GF played in the state of the reigning premier. The intention would be that you would have had to have won the GF last year in order to host it this year, if you make it. That way the GF would get moved around, but it would still be based on performance rather than some sort of bidding war, but knowing how the AFL is when it comes to $$$...
With 10/18 teams from Vic, the GF would generally still be at the MCG anyway with the occasional novelty GF being played elsewhere, although if you do look at the last decade, exceptions could happen.
2001 - Ess v Bris - MCG
2002 - Bris v Coll - Gabba
2003 - Bris v Coll - Gabba
2004 - Bris v PA - Gabba
2005 - Syd v WC - AAMI
2006 - Syd v WC - ANZ
2007 - Geel v PA - Subiaco
2008 - Geel v Haw - MCG (first GF at the MCG in 7 years)
2009 - StK v Geel - MCG
2010 - Coll v Stk - MCG
2011 - MCG
If ground capacity wasn't an issue, I wouldn't mind having the GF played in the state of the reigning premier. The intention would be that you would have had to have won the GF last year in order to host it this year, if you make it. That way the GF would get moved around, but it would still be based on performance rather than some sort of bidding war, but knowing how the AFL is when it comes to $$$...
With 10/18 teams from Vic, the GF would generally still be at the MCG anyway with the occasional novelty GF being played elsewhere, although if you do look at the last decade, exceptions could happen.
2001 - Ess v Bris - MCG
2002 - Bris v Coll - Gabba
2003 - Bris v Coll - Gabba
2004 - Bris v PA - Gabba
2005 - Syd v WC - AAMI
2006 - Syd v WC - ANZ
2007 - Geel v PA - Subiaco
2008 - Geel v Haw - MCG (first GF at the MCG in 7 years)
2009 - StK v Geel - MCG
2010 - Coll v Stk - MCG
2011 - MCG
Dirty Bird
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I say build a 120,000 seat mega stadium in Alice Springs, which is only used once per year for the Grand Final 
Did Sydney play poorly at AAMI Stadium in 2005?
I wasn't even trying to have a crack at changing the GF result in my hypothetical.
I was going to start a thread exactly on this topic.
Syd vs GWS GF in my opinion should be played out of Homebush. It just makes sense to have the Grand Final held at a venue that represents the two teams. Unfortunately though, Sydney really is the only other option outside of the MCG. Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth are either too shabby or too small to realistically hold a Grand Final.
Syd vs GWS GF in my opinion should be played out of Homebush. It just makes sense to have the Grand Final held at a venue that represents the two teams. Unfortunately though, Sydney really is the only other option outside of the MCG. Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth are either too shabby or too small to realistically hold a Grand Final.
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Flights are cheaps these days so its not like fans cant go. The tickets to the game would be more than getting from Sydney to Melb.
When Man U played Chelsea in the Champions league final it was still in Moscow.
Also what if it was at Homebush and didnt sell out ? The AFL couldnt take that risk.
When Man U played Chelsea in the Champions league final it was still in Moscow.
Also what if it was at Homebush and didnt sell out ? The AFL couldnt take that risk.
Gee Dubya
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Has to stay at the 'G
Otherwise the 'G itself loses a part of what makes it such a special ground
Otherwise the 'G itself loses a part of what makes it such a special ground
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No way.
The MCG GF deal runs out in 2037. By then Brisbane will be over 3 million, and perth will have close to 2.5 million. There is no reason either of these two cities wouldn't have a 75,000 to 80,000 seat mutli-purpose stadium by then. NFL regularly hold super bowls at stadiums of this size.
A bidding system by cities would be good. They could set it up similar to say a olympic bid, with the AFL only giving it to a city if they think they will put on a good show for the game.
A bidding system by cities would be good. They could set it up similar to say a olympic bid, with the AFL only giving it to a city if they think they will put on a good show for the game.
jackrabbitslims
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It would be like selling your soul. And Sydney would love it because of the money it would bring. But in reality GWS are going to have to work hard to just get a toe hold there.
It's the AUSTRALIAN Football League, isn't it?
The attitude amongst many here is that it would be the end of the world if the GF were played outside Melbourne.
It's a moot point for the time being, but I would love to see the GF moved around the nation in a few decades time.
The attitude amongst many here is that it would be the end of the world if the GF were played outside Melbourne.
It's a moot point for the time being, but I would love to see the GF moved around the nation in a few decades time.
I love how everyone here is thinking of tradition (MCG) or the rights of members (other states). It's very quaintly naive. In terms of what the AFL wants to do, a Swans/GWS GF played at Olympic Park would brings AFL into the Sydney heartland years early and much more than tens of millions of dollars will do over the next few years. It would move AFL decades in terms of becoming the Australian football code. And what that would do for the money asked for the next lot of TV rights negotiations would be far more than any recompense paid to the MCG.
On the other hand, a Swans/GWS GF played at the MCG would be seen by most non-AFL Sydneysiders as a kick in the face and a complete turn-off to any glimmer of interest in following AFL.
Money talks so there would be very strong consideration given to playing a Sydney/GWS GF in Sydney. It just hasn't been talked about because no-one is expecting it to happen for at least a few years.
If both teams are in the eight after R11 this year then I bet Mike Sheahan dusts off the article he's probably already written entitled "Melbourne Must Keep Our Grand Final". Good luck on that when AFL House starts salivating about the potential to make GWS a winning move, rather than a stupid Quixotic whim.
On the other hand, a Swans/GWS GF played at the MCG would be seen by most non-AFL Sydneysiders as a kick in the face and a complete turn-off to any glimmer of interest in following AFL.
Money talks so there would be very strong consideration given to playing a Sydney/GWS GF in Sydney. It just hasn't been talked about because no-one is expecting it to happen for at least a few years.
If both teams are in the eight after R11 this year then I bet Mike Sheahan dusts off the article he's probably already written entitled "Melbourne Must Keep Our Grand Final". Good luck on that when AFL House starts salivating about the potential to make GWS a winning move, rather than a stupid Quixotic whim.
Eddie Dingle
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Just going to the MCG is part of the attraction.
Going to Homebush is not anywhere near as exciting and I have been there for Rugby Internationals including Bledisloe Cup, Rugby League Grand Finals (Last 3), 20/20 cricket and AFL games.
It's not just the Footy at the G it's everything, the general history of the place makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up as you approach it.
The 2007 Grand Final was my worst day watching footy anywhere but I still love getting back to the G and maybe next time we make it there on the last Saturday in September it will turn out a bit better....
I personally hope it never moves from the G.
Going to Homebush is not anywhere near as exciting and I have been there for Rugby Internationals including Bledisloe Cup, Rugby League Grand Finals (Last 3), 20/20 cricket and AFL games.
It's not just the Footy at the G it's everything, the general history of the place makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up as you approach it.
The 2007 Grand Final was my worst day watching footy anywhere but I still love getting back to the G and maybe next time we make it there on the last Saturday in September it will turn out a bit better....
I personally hope it never moves from the G.
The way the WA government is, it will be another 20 years before they decide to build a new stadium and then it will take 15 years to build it.
Sttew
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Totally disagree. The GF must remain at its home, the MCG. I'm happy for lesser finals to be played elsewhere, but the MCG is akin to Wembley, THE home of football.
Seriously, as a once off, in the event that both Sydney & GWS make it to the Grand final, I think it's definitely worth having the grand final at ANZ. I don't doubt that the AFL would seriously consider it either, the effect it'd have on the Sydney market would be huge. However, the chances of this occuring in the next 10 years is 3%
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I agree.
The AFL should decide, on a whim, with less than a week to prepare the venue, organise entertainment, corporate events, and all the other entertainment that is held in Grand Final week, where the grand final should be held.
Logistically, it is impossible.
I dont mind seeing the GF being moved around but there is just no chance of the AFL organising a Sydney derby grand final in Sydney unless it was a coincidence.
UrLordUnbeliever
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Yeah but nah.. For a non-Vic side to host a GF in their city, they would have had to play in and win the previous flag, AND QUALIFIED FOR THE CURRENT ONE.. If the team that won it the previous year doesn't play in the next year's decider, it goes back to the MCG.
So it'd be more like..
2001 - Ess v Bris - MCG
2002 - Bris v Coll - Gabba
2003 - Bris v Coll - Gabba
2004 - Bris v PA - Gabba
2005 - Syd v WC - MCG
2006 - Syd v WC - ANZ
2007 - Geel v PA - MCG
2008 - Geel v Haw - MCG
2009 - StK v Geel - MCG
2010 - Coll v Stk - MCG
2011 - MCG
Geelong v Port at Subiaco haha no way. I like your thinking though ULU
