A thread on politics- have some balls and post

[Hollow Knight]

Unsurprisingly anti Semites screaming blue murder that anyone would think they're anti semitic is a feature here.

The coupe de grace was whoever said Jews were placed where they were post war because no one else wanted them. After what they'd been through.

Even with the small numbers who managed to get elsewhere they dominated business ,the entertainment and movie business , wrote the American songbook, the classical arts , all from nothing basically.

Anti semiticism is still writ large in Western civilisation in my experience and some of the rest just want to kill them.

Ahh the "it's complex" guy is back again with a stunning lack of complexity.

Let me have a try... "Hey Martinson, just admit you are Islamophobic and want Muslim children to die by the thousands!".

 

[martinson]

Ahh the "it's complex" guy is back again with a stunning lack of complexity.

Let me have a try... "Hey Martinson, just admit you are Islamophobic and want Muslim children to die by the thousands!".

I don't get the correlation.

Of course what I said wasn't complex.

It's self evident.

You've gone a bit over the top there.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I don't get the correlation.

That much is evident.

Here endeth the lesson.

 

[martinson]

That much is evident.

Here endeth the lesson.

For me too.

You're perfectly entitled to your view .

But no one's been given any lesson. Nor should they think they've given one.

 

[Hollow Knight]

For me too.

You're perfectly entitled to your view .

But no one's been given any lesson. Nor should they think they've given one.

Some people have talked about the issues in terms of the context and needs/rights of both groups.

Others have taken an utterly one-sided perspective while ironically and condescendingly implying that have a unique appreciation for the "complexities" involved. Then when pressed on said complexities, instead of engaging, those people immediately fell back into unserious and unsupported ad-hominem rhetoric such as accusing people of being "anti-Semitic". Not all views are created equal.

Israel ≠ Judaism
Judaism ≠ Israel

 

[martinson]

Some people have talked about the issues in terms of the context and needs/rights of both groups.

Others have taken an utterly one-sided perspective while ironically and condescendingly implying that have a unique appreciation for the "complexities" involved. Not all views are created equal.

Well here's the thing . I believe you've taken a one sided perspective.

With due respect to the propositions you put up, noble and all as they were , there's no hope of the Arabs on the other side of this conflict agreeing to any of that , it's been tried for decades. And they're crucial in the Middle Eastern conflict.

Everyone wants to see this end. I want to see this end for the sake of both sides and the unending suffering. I'm sorry if you think I condescendingly implied anything . I didn't intend to be condescending to anyone. But it's not an unusual perspective. It's one that's been taken by the left side of politics in the US for the last several years.