A thread on politics- have some balls and post

[dlanod]

I actually heard it on CNN of all places the day after the election and a leftist academic was explaining that the Dems had completely ignored the needs of native Americans in the two particular states that he was talking about , and that they were living in complete poverty with very limited access to medical requirements etc. resulting in native Americans registering a protest vote (his reading of it ) and giving Trump the most support of any demographic in those states where native Americans were most prevalent.

So yes I haven't looked at across the board numbers and it was very surprising to me.

Yeah, the exit poll that's the only source for the Native American claim was a NBC/CNN one so it makes sense that's where you saw it.

Digging more into their numbers per some of those other links, their Native American "representation" were very split towards self-identified city dwellers from states without a substantial Native American population.

Electorates where there was a substantial population of Native Americans were still won by Democrats but on significantly narrower margins, and polls explicitly verifying the results by surveying a large number of Native Americans show a range from a small Democrat majority or roughly on par with the American vote as a whole (1% margin towards Trump). Nothing within spitting distance of the 65%-35% split the exit poll reported.

 

[martinson]

Yup. They need to share a very large chunk of responsibility for him winning. I fear they won't learn the lesson.

It's simple. They did everything within their power to stop Trump for months on end and made the election all about him. There has been a verbal and legal war between Trump and the Dem oligarchs for many years now . The latter self disintegrated. They removed a sitting President in the middle of the night and replaced him with a puppet spokesperson who couldn't communicate.

The most provocative images from the campaign were the Trump assassination attempt and Jill Biden wearing all Red to the polling booths. They were splintered within. Now they have no figurehead or coherent theme except to lambast everything Trump says or does , a replica of their supporters and seen on this thread.

Honestly to think they're any different to Trump is a bit rich. Likewise if he's a disreputable person how do Biden and his family walk away from politics as seriously wealthy people . The Clintons and Obama are no different in terms of greed . What did they ever do for their constituents ? Dropped plenty of bombs on other countries , something that seems alien to the Trump playbook.

 

[martinson]

Unfortunately this confirms what seems to be a really common theme at the moment...

There are Republican voters all over now dealing withe FAFO factor because too often they cruised along without doing any research for themselves.

Like the Texan mothers shocked Trump is defunding and closing schools - which he said he would do.
Like lower and middle class tax payers working out they are going to pay more tax not less under Trump.
Like the thousands, including the man himself, who somehow think foreign countries pay tariffs.
Like the LGBTQ Republicans who just had their rights stripped.
Like Caitlen Jenner who's a massive Trump supporter being told she no longer has a gender.

The FAFO factor is off the scale. So many... so so many it's scary, just assumed he would makes things better for them with no research, no critical thinking, no scrutiny.

There's this ridiculous blind faith that things won't be worse under Trump. Things can only get better. Guess what. You're wrong. And it's taken 2 days to prove it.

Find a way to interact with those in the States NOW. In virtually real time. See the remorse for yourself from his supporters. See those who voted for him realise they are already worse off. See those people finally understand what a tariff is.

Find a way to see independent sources clarify facts and details not talked about here. See direct news feeds, analysis and FACTS in near real time.

DO SOME RESEARCH.

Sitting idly by in blissful ignorance because that's how things were always done doesn't cut it. Throw away lines like "they are all the same" don't apply here. Waiting for the sky to fall in before getting concerned will just be a little late.

If you did you would see the Mexican President in an incredible speech stare down Trump. You would see the Panamanian one do the same. Canada's threats are not idle and everyday that goes by confirms it. The EU has done the same with his threat to NATA and Greenland essentially told him to DUCK off.

The rest of the world and I would guess more than 50% of Americans see the danger the man is.

My social media which I have deliberately made as independent as I can, over flows with Americans fearing the next 4 years. Unfortunately from the work I have done over months and months I can see why.

Notliondown I was in San Francisco the last time Trump got elected and the fear was off the richter. I won't go into some of the hysterical expectations but it made your current research look mild.

Give it time and when something deleterious happens to enough of the population he'll be on the nose.

But I don't expect that to happen at all barring some sort of economic collapse.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Notliondown I was in San Francisco the last time Trump got elected and the fear was off the richter. I won't go into some of the hysterical expectations but it made your current research look mild.

Give it time and when something deleterious happens to enough of the population he'll be on the nose.

But I don't expect that to happen at all barring some sort of economic collapse.

And pales in comparison to the republicans reaction to Biden winning

 

[Nathan Barley]

Makes total sense

Trump, Who Called for Death Penalty for Drug Dealers, Pardons Most Influential Drug Dealer in Human History

Trump appears to have reversed on his position that drug dealers should get the death penalty by pardoning Ross Ulbricht this week.

futurism.com

Also Elon further confirming his nazi views overnight

The trump musk relationship reeks of the high school movies where the dumb, popular kid befriends and uses the nerdy, rich kid only to abuse the friendship and ditch him later on

Trump used his money and his clout amongst the bros to get elected and will come out of it looking the more sensible and less extreme of the two when he finally fires him