Accuracy - absolutely kills us!

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Doggies05'

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If we had been kicking straight this season we would be in the top 3.

That says it all....

Blame it on descicion making, blame it on whatevr u want...

Bottom line is... our accuracy is the reason we rnt a top side.
 
Remember, Melbourne were inaccurate, as were Richmond.

Everybody knows we are a ******** kick for goal.
 

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End of the day we are just not good enough. The reason we cannot kick goals is that we cannot escape the losing mentality and bury a side. We kicked 9 behinds in a row and it a problem year in year out. If we had kicked 9 goals we would of killed them and had a most wonderful victory, but this is not in our psyche and hasn't been for some time now. I cant remeber a time when we had a game early and kept it. We like to give teams 7 goal headstarts and then lose by two points and say "oh didn't you like the way we fought it out to the end, at least we were competitive", i say not good enough. Good sides dont let 7 goals in 9 minutes go through, yet we are repeat offenders. It's not got to do with skill, from 30 out straight in front i will kick 8 out of 10 attempts, it mental.
These guys are pro athletes and it comes down to mentality and consistancy, unfortunately our guys are mentally and consistantly bad.
 
It's horrible....but I'd love to see a chart of where most of our shots at goal come from.

I'd be prepared to guess that a very small % would be from the middle third of the ground.
A small, leading forward-line is constantly forced to lead wide as the opposition clogs up the middle, resulting in tougher shots at goal, week in, week out.

Having said that, of course, both Richo and Coughlan kicked tough goals in crucial situations near the end...shouldn't be any reason why we can't. (But there does seem to be! :mad: )
 
MrChristo said:
It's horrible....but I'd love to see a chart of where most of our shots at goal come from.

I'd be prepared to guess that a very small % would be from the middle third of the ground.
A small, leading forward-line is constantly forced to lead wide as the opposition clogs up the middle, resulting in tougher shots at goal, week in, week out.

Having said that, of course, both Richo and Coughlan kicked tough goals in crucial situations near the end...shouldn't be any reason why we can't. (But there does seem to be! :mad: )
Rational post.
 
Kicking for goal is a skill,both physical and mental,most players on our list are lacking in this crucial area. Getting a bit tired of talking about it actually.

Sorry Doggies05 we are not a top side.
 
MrChristo said:
It's horrible....but I'd love to see a chart of where most of our shots at goal come from.

I'd be prepared to guess that a very small % would be from the middle third of the ground.
A small, leading forward-line is constantly forced to lead wide as the opposition clogs up the middle, resulting in tougher shots at goal, week in, week out.

Having said that, of course, both Richo and Coughlan kicked tough goals in crucial situations near the end...shouldn't be any reason why we can't. (But there does seem to be! :mad: )
With our small forward line, would be safe to presume that we have many shots for goal near the boundary, but I have seem more than enough basic misses from set shots dead in front since 2002 for the problem to be a major mental hurdle that we have not overcome (basically since Huddo left).

Anyone remember the first 6 rounds of 2002, when we basically urinated down the toilet certain wins against Adelaide, Collingwood and Melbourne, ruining our chance for certain finals action. Happened less in 2003 but came back with a vengance in 2004 (Collingwood, West Coast and Richmond matches were thrown away in the first 8 rounds - even against Port, we kicked 7.22 and threw away any possible hope we had). Other sides don't show us any compassion and drill them clinically over the goal umpire's head. It's about time our side showed some responsibility to nail simple set shots. It's too easy to hide behind the "we have a small forward line and are forced to go wide" line, because as a collective group of players, this is not the real reason for our inaccuracy: we just don't nail our set shots, simple as that. Sydney in 2003 had an accuracy level approaching 70% for the whole season, and they are not eaxctly a team of monsters up forward. Don't tell me we cannot improve this facet of our game.

It's not the only reason, but the title of this thread sums up our woes perfectly. I can only think of 1 match since 2002 (v Norh in Canberra last year) where our accuracy got us over the line. I can think of 10-15 matches in that time where our inaccuracy cost us the game. If anyone is happy to cop this every second week, you're a more tolerant supporter than I am.
 
I would like to think that the players practise their set shots at goal, not on an ad-hoc basis, but a systematic and a conscience effort to get it right and take pride in the fact that we have improved and have set up a new standard of expectation to players who are at our club or come to our club.

Sadly the continual in-accuaracy with set shots suggests to me that a systematic approach has not been taken its both a skill issue compounded with a mental issue.

It has cost us games, and it has given me frustration.
 
I think we might be doing to much of it at training, so they are putting more pressure on themselves on match days, there thinking about it to much. Maybe they should stop doing it at training.
 
birssyboy40 said:
I think we might be doing to much of it at training, so they are putting more pressure on themselves on match days, there thinking about it to much. Maybe they should stop doing it at training.

I think they do it on an ad-hoc basis (ie only when its a real problem) rather than doing it systematically over a period of time addressing specific things. I know another club has actually asked its players to have x amounts of shots at goal per week.
 
IF it's the shots from the boundary line, why not play more long, direct footy down the corridor? I thought Chris Grant would be FF this season, I think it would help.
 

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Just heard on the radio from Mark Stevens - he will be running a piece on this topic in tomorrow's Herald Sun. Something to cheer us all up (not).
 
Pugsta said:
Just heard on the radio from Mark Stevens - he will be running a piece on this topic in tomorrow's Herald Sun. Something to cheer us all up (not).

Boring. There have been several pieces about The Dogs yips in front of goal over the last 4 years.
 
Maybe they should go in another direction in regards to the goal kicking. Practicing more may hurt us just as much. In the back of our players minds they may be thinking of it because they focus on it so much.

Focus on something else rather than the goalkicking may just help a little.
 
scooter600x said:
Rational post.


exactly, if you want to play high possesion keepings off, then pass to a small leading forward, your not going to be playing down the guts too often.
You'd want to be pretty damn accurate to get it to work, and it's not going to help you in the close ones when you it becomes a bomb it forward game.
 
G-Mo77 said:
Maybe they should go in another direction in regards to the goal kicking. Practicing more may hurt us just as much. In the back of our players minds they may be thinking of it because they focus on it so much.

Focus on something else rather than the goalkicking may just help a little.

Thats what i said :) .
 
Dont take this the wrong way but the accuracy of the doggies in the game vs us was about the same Richo was Richo and missed some very gettablke shots.. Deledio/Brown/Stafford missed some shots at goals too so we should have won by 3-4 goals i reckon.. Anyway what kills the doggies i reckon is that stuipid FLOOD and the lack of a Tall ..PErhaps they should stick Street/Minson in the guts and have Darcy up forwad, rawlings /grant dont seem to be up it on form and Bandy is struggling big time.. The Dogs could have beaten us by a lot if they didnt have that stuipid flood in place when you guys took off on the rebound they had no targets up forward.
 

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