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Adam Treloar vs Dylan Shiel
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No I just don't like annoying bias supporters such as yourself.
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Interesting to revisit this thread. Like most people I rated Shiel > Treloar when they were at GWS. However Treloar has significantly elevated his game since leaving (where he may or may not have been carrying an injury in his last season). His form this season especially has been awesome and he should a favourite to get AA imo. He's also well ahead of Shiel in almost every statistical category.
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Yep. Treloar has the clanger count for the league well in his sights. Hurt factor, Treloar has none, Shiel has it in spades, if you had seen any of our games you would of seen a match winner. AA, you're having a laff.
You've made the effort to criticize people for not watching GWS games before making judgments on Shiel when it is clear you have not watched any Collingwood games since Treloar joined. He hasn't been at his best in 2017, but when he's on, his hurt factor is enormous.
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They are both very good mids. Honestly I wouldn't trade them as a straight swap. Partly that's because Shiel has strong marketing value for us and that mattets to us in a way that that may be foreign to your club. The kids love him at Spotless.
We offerred the same money, as publicly stated by the club, to Shiel, Treloar and Cogniglio during 2015, that's the most pragmatic measure of their value. As would ne the size if the offer if the Pies made one to Shiel.
To me Shiels vision and ability to size up a situation and sieze opportunites differentiates them. I concede I'm biased because the love between Shiel, the club and it's supporters is mutual.
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The thread was bumped for a ridiculous reason and you are spot on, Treloar has been pretty average this year. Not even close to AA.
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Treloar for me
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Treloar needs to tidy up his disposal, but in saying that players who kick long whilst running flat out will always have a lowish DE% compared to average players who handball or take easy kicks.
Treloar is one of the most attacking players in the comp, a true line breaker, to the muppet who said he has no hurt factor, it might be time for you to follow a different sport because you have very little knowledge of this one.
Treloar is one of the most attacking players in the comp, a true line breaker, to the muppet who said he has no hurt factor, it might be time for you to follow a different sport because you have very little knowledge of this one.
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Lol, have you even watched Treloar play? He's a fast line breaker and you're comparing him to Rockliff? PMSL.
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Shiel is an absolute gun just outside of the top ten midfielders in the game. Treloar is a good player who would be in that top 25-30 range of midfielders.
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Both guns and would love either at Carlton, Shiel would be ahead though (imo) as he seems to have more hurt factor.
To the people saying Shiel has more hurt factor with his touches he trails in Goals, Goal Assists and Score launches.. Also lacks Tackles in comparison.. The only area Shiel has a clear advantage would be Centre clearances, close comparison sure, to the people saying it's easily Shiel and he has more impact with what he does, time to stop being bias.
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Two years ago I would of had them on par. Shiel is by far the better player now. Shiel is simple far more well rounded. Tough, skilful, damaging by foot and a very good team player. In parts, Shiel reminds me of Sam Mitchell with pace. He has the ability to cut sides apart like a surgeon and I just don't see him make bad decisions or mistakes very often. He was an All-Australian in 2017.
Treloar has some elite attributes such as his pace and ability to break from stoppages, however as it stands he has too many flaws to be considered A grade like Shiel deservingly is. Treloar butchers the ball, no two ways about it. He just lacks the polish of the very best midfielders.
Treloar has some elite attributes such as his pace and ability to break from stoppages, however as it stands he has too many flaws to be considered A grade like Shiel deservingly is. Treloar butchers the ball, no two ways about it. He just lacks the polish of the very best midfielders.
Treloar and it’s not even close
Shiel reminds me a lot of Daniel Kerr so i'm a big fan of the way he plays.
Can't go past Treloar though. I've said it for a while, but it's only a matter of time before he's one of the best midfielders in the comp.
Can't go past Treloar though. I've said it for a while, but it's only a matter of time before he's one of the best midfielders in the comp.
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Poll results are just a fraction out of whack I reckon 
In fact it’s probably time we started talking about Treloar as one of the absolute top shelf midfielders in the game
In fact it’s probably time we started talking about Treloar as one of the absolute top shelf midfielders in the game
I retract my 50/50 comment, Treloar by a mile now, what an embarrassing poll
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My concern/question over Shiel is is ability to do what he does over a full game, week in, week out. Plays a lot less gametime than a lot of other top-line midfielders, averaging just 75.68% gametime over his career, and just 76.00% gametime this season. By comparison, Treloar averages 82.24% gametime on his career, and 82.30% this year.
Just wonder whether it's just coaches choosing to use Shiel in that way, as a burst player, or whether he's perpetually being "managed" or limited by fitness/injury concerns.
Just wonder whether it's just coaches choosing to use Shiel in that way, as a burst player, or whether he's perpetually being "managed" or limited by fitness/injury concerns.
The most embarrassingly lopsided poll ever posed on this board was put to bed last night
Treloar off from a rushed injury treatment process - 31 disposals, 10 score involvements, 11 contested and 5 tackles
Fully fit Dylan Shiel - 22 disposals, 0 score involvements, 8 contested, 2 tackles
It was Treloar at the time and it’s not even close anymore
Treloar off from a rushed injury treatment process - 31 disposals, 10 score involvements, 11 contested and 5 tackles
Fully fit Dylan Shiel - 22 disposals, 0 score involvements, 8 contested, 2 tackles
It was Treloar at the time and it’s not even close anymore
I'd take Shiel still. Good luck next week but it doesn't mean you have the better player.
I'd take Adam Treloar over Dylan Shiel, better disposal.
Although I'd take Lachie Whitfield just over Treloar.
Although I'd take Lachie Whitfield just over Treloar.
I cannot think of a single trait that Shiel has that is more appealing than Treloar aside from playing for a more likeable club (if these two switched teams, you would take Treloar). It boggles the mind that anybody would take Shiel.
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