Moved Thread Adrian Dodoro - Lodged a dispute with FairWork. Paid out. Gone. #putoutyourjackets

[Here_we_come]

It will be a slow burn to recover from the mess that dodo has created. With a few exceptions, the last 5 or so years have been terrible in terms of recruiting and it will take a while to move beyond that.

But still, at least now there is some light at the end of the tunnel. There are no guarantees that Rosa will be better but one thing is certain: nothing can be worse than 20 years without winning a final.

 

[Blind Turn]

Ok Sheedy out , Dodoro out... Seems like a faction has fallen by the wayside. It all seems a little too easy

The only way to cancel out interfering egos and agendas at the EFC is to cancel out the coteries.

I assume everyone’s on board with a cancel culture at Essendon?

 

[eth-dog]

So do many on here, doesn't warrant 20+ years of employment.

I don't like dancing on graves.

 

[bombreys]

Wait so who do we blame now?

I say we full-circle it and come back to B Stanton..?

 

[bombreys]

It will be a slow burn to recover from the mess that dodo has created. With a few exceptions, the last 5 or so years have been terrible in terms of recruiting and it will take a while to move beyond that.

But still, at least now there is some light at the end of the tunnel. There are no guarantees that Rosa will be better but one thing is certain: nothing can be worse than 20 years without winning a final.

I tend to agree - think there’s a huge chance noone currently on our list will be there the next time we win a final

 

[Blind Turn]

I don't like dancing on graves.

I dunno mate, strobe lights and some deep acid house on a full moon…

 

[Call Me Cake]

I don't like dancing on graves.

Whether knowingly or unknowingly, he's been dancing on ours.

Any sane person would've read the room 10 years ago let alone 20. There is something seriously wrong with his character. I have no respect for him and never will.

Glorious day for the EFC.

 

[Howard Moon]

Would any other club having a board member step aside and a recruiting guy leave be news??

 

[nesko_25]

Wait so who do we blame now?

Stanton to resume his whipping boy status.

 

[eth-dog]

I dunno mate, strobe lights and some deep acid house on a full moon…

Eh, fair enough, you do you mean

Whether knowingly or unknowingly, he's been dancing on ours.

Any sane person would've read the room 10 years ago let alone 20. There is something seriously wrong with his character. I have no respect for him and never will.

Glorious day for the EFC.

Oh God, the irony of you of all posters saying this.

 

[Kong]

I don't like dancing on graves.

Yeah that's fair, I guess I just would say nothing rather than trying to find something nice, but I get it.

 

[Vindicater]

I’m going to the game tonight, I was expecting a loss but now that Sheedy and Dodoro are out I’m expecting a 20 goal win.

And when lose?

#sackrosa!

 

[MarshawnLynch]

Does he get a goodbye tonight alongside Hep?

 

[Blind Turn]

Does he get a goodbye tonight alongside Hep?

I hear that they’re making a banner of jackets for him to run through which is kinda sweet.

 

[Corleone]

Breaking up is hard, as Bombers struggle to let go of the past

Kevin Sheedy has finally stepped down from the board and Adrian Dodoro has taken personal leave, but 20 years after their last win in a final, the Bombers need to redefine the meaning of an “Essendon person”.

www.theage.com.au

Can someone please post the article?

 

[P Money]

Yep. We are almost entirely committed to the current list with no real scope to change in the next 24 months.

By the way, that's the product of the last 2 times Dodoro oversaw the use of 3 sets of top 10 picks in the space of 24 months at the start of a rebuild (i.e. Parish, Francis and McGrath and then Cox, Perkins and Reid) that hasn't be a catalyst for more than the usual mediocrity.

I find it almost amusing that the people think that the departure of Sheedy and Dodoro at this point stands as some sort of meaningful cultural change. The club is still overseen by a board that will engage in a circle jerk over the list every time it meets - they're still a bunch of useless sycophants.

Mate you are just a ray of sunshine aren't ya? You find it amusing that supporters would applaud positive moves by the club because they aren't silver bullets that guarantee success?

I'm assuming this 'board of useless sycophants' you speak of are also the people that successfully orchestrated a coup and ousted the previous administration? Pretty interesting behaviour for 'sycophants'

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Can someone please post the article?

Breaking up has been hard to do for the Essendon Football Club. And for the Bombers, the most difficult relationship to sever has been their love affair with the past.
That it is a past that is close to a quarter of a century old must make matters all the more galling for Brad Scott and Zach Merrett, whose era together should have begun unencumbered two seasons ago but whose leadership at times has been held hostage to an old guard who cannot let go.

Essendon’s outgoing list boss Adrian Dodoro was discovered by Kevin Sheedy 33 years ago.CREDIT: STEPHEN KIPRILLIS
As Kevin Sheedy has agreed to a long-overdue board departure and veteran list manager Adrian Dodoro has taken leave to deal with personal matters, it is worth harking back to Scott’s appointment two seasons ago and the assurances he was given by the new president David Barham and his team.
Dodoro was not expected to return to the Bombers having come close to accepting that his time was up, said two club sources who would not comment publicly as the situation remained sensitive in a legal and an emotional sense.

Breaking up with Dodoro – as with Sheedy – has been far more problematic for Essendon’s bosses than it should have been. It is stating the obvious to say that no individual is bigger than the club but too often those individuals confuse the equation.
It had been a messy start for Barham, who faced one of the toughest jobs in sport as he set about rebuilding Essendon. It began with a board split and coup, the brutally clumsy handling of Ben Rutten’s removal and then the embarrassment over the decision to install Andrew Thorburn as Essendon’s new boss, an appointment that lasted one day.

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But with the Scott appointment came a series of undertakings that proved less than rock solid from the Bombers’ hierarchy regarding the club’s soft-cap status and also a guarantee that the club would move to overhaul its list management, which had fared poorly in a recent review.
Instead, Scott began his first season as senior coach with a fractured football department given the decision to retain the controversial list boss Dodoro alongside the football boss he had a tense relationship with, Josh Mahoney. Scott was reportedly surprised at the influential presence of Dodoro and premiership star Mark Harvey – who is now working in Essendon’s commercial team – in the day-to-day running of football.


Changes were slowly made when Craig Vozzo became the new club chief. For a start, Dodoro remained and reported to the new boss and not Mahoney, who departed after one season with Scott. But my firm view is that divisions remain at Essendon and that two seasons in, members of the old guard are not fully behind the new coach.
At the time of writing, the Bombers remain a live chance to reach September and their future looks full of hope. Their recent string of close and disappointing losses cannot be squared at Dodoro, but it is fair to say he remains more than simply a symbol of the club’s refusal to break the shackles of the past and move forward. He defends his role, but Essendon have not won a final for 20 years and Dodoro must share some responsibility, including for the list and some recent missteps.

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The compromised decision to employ a new list boss, Matt Rosa, but retain Dodoro in a lesser role, has had its moments and now reached its used-by date. The club appears to be coming to the realisation it must move forward with Rosa solely in charge, but Dodoro’s position remained a sensitive issue this week as the Bombers headed towards their final two 2024 home-and-away rounds and their next crucial trade period.
Despite Hall of Fame Legend Sheedy’s unparalleled contribution to Essendon and Australian football, his presence on the Bombers’ board while also working in the dual role as paid ambassador remained an insult to Scott and a brand issue for the club. Respecting the past while moving forward unshackled remains a fine line but Barham could have been tougher with Sheedy, who seemed happy to remain on the board until this week.

For a club director of Sheedy’s reputation to break ranks immediately after a senior coaching appointment and declare he voted for another candidate and had not backed the decision is unprecedented in AFL terms. Former Richmond director and premiership coach Tony Jewell publicly criticised Danny Frawley’s coaching, later apologised, and later again was voted off the board, but for Sheedy to remain for two full seasons after his comments speaks again to Essendon’s clinging to their history.
Few at Essendon revere Sheedy more than president Barham, who also owed Sheedy after he backed him in the board split that ultimately ended Rutten’s time at the club. But in retaining the four-time premiership coach, the club symbolically put the past ahead of its future.

As Barham did in giving James Hird some genuine hope he had a chance of returning to the club as senior coach. Hird has every right to try to return to AFL coaching if that remains his wish. But it defies belief that he was a genuine candidate for the Bombers’ job so soon after the most catastrophic period in the club’s history, which occurred under his watch.
Still, by placing Hird in a genuine process once and for all, the club seems finally to have dealt with the Hird messiah complex.

Significantly Dyson Heppell, the last of the drug-scandal victims to remain at Essendon, announced his retirement this week. A respected, worthy and popular adornment to the Bombers for so many years he was described on the club’s website by Barham as an “Essendon person through and through”.
Barham seems up to the task in forging ahead and breaking the ties of Essendon’s often selfish and deluded recent past. It is up to him along with Vozzo, Scott and Merrett to redefine the meaning of the so-called “Essendon person”.

 

[Bjchan13]

 

[Yoda_]

sounds like he hasn't actually left the club.. just no major dealings with list management though

 

[BrunoV]

Mate you are just a ray of sunshine aren't ya? You find it amusing that supporters would applaud positive moves by the club because they aren't silver bullets that guarantee success?

I'm assuming this 'board of useless sycophants' you speak of are also the people that successfully orchestrated a coup and ousted the previous administration? Pretty interesting behaviour for 'sycophants'

That was Barham and Sheedy.

What you're left with is:

1. the people that blindly followed Sheedy from support for Brasher / Rutten;

2. turned against Barham and Sheedy at the last minute when they realised they had been manipulated into appointing Hird.

Essendon has validated everything that has happened on the football field to this point because it is committed to the list of players it has produced.

Edit: you are right, in one sense. As a class they're not just sycophants. That instinct can be overcome by their desire for self-preservation and cowardice.

 

[Koopa]

Does he get a goodbye tonight alongside Hep?

Essendon jackets will replace flags at Marvel and will be flown at half mast.

Goodnight, sweet prince. All the best and god speed Dodo!

 

[BratPack]

 

[dank420_]

That was Barham and Sheedy.

What you're left with is:

1. the people that blindly followed Sheedy from support for Brasher / Rutten;

2. turned against Barham and Sheedy at the last minute when they realised they had been manipulated into appointing Hird.

Essendon has validated everything that has happened on the football field to this point because it is committed to the list of players it has produced.

Edit: you are right, in one sense. As a class they're not just sycophants. That instinct can be overcome by their desire for self-preservation and cowardice.

Tell us what to do Bruno! Tell us o wise one!

 

[Yoda_]

That was Barham and Sheedy.

What you're left with is:

1. the people that blindly followed Sheedy from support for Brasher / Rutten;

2. turned against Barham and Sheedy at the last minute when they realised they had been manipulated into appointing Hird.

Essendon has validated everything that has happened on the football field to this point because it is committed to the list of players it has produced.

Edit: you are right, in one sense. As a class they're not just sycophants. That instinct can be overcome by their desire for self-preservation and cowardice.

furthering onto this, some of the resigning I have felt as a Dodoro not wanting to be seen as a failure sort of thing

Jye Menzies clearly did not deserve a contract. Did Parish deserve 6? McGrath? Probably not yet here we are

 

[Kong]

It's the last stone we haven't turned over

Nah, dependence on and therefore answering to the coteries.

Would love a complete remodel of the club's financial "model", meaning coterie influence is more similar to that at other clubs.