Multiplat AFL 23 - Part 2 with added Pro Team

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I think my favourite part of this whole thing is that when the game is delayed we get a round from the usual suspects defending BA for a week or two before they also vanish when they realise that yet again BA have let them down and their cheerleaders was for naught.
 
I think my favourite part of this whole thing is that when the game is delayed we get a round from the usual suspects defending BA for a week or two before they also vanish when they realise that yet again BA have let them down and their cheerleaders was for naught.
Maybe they get turned away by the same old complainers droning on and on.
 

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Maybe they get turned away by the same old complainers droning on and on.

Or maybe, just like the ones at Big Ant themselves who shun their customer base, they just don't have a leg to stand on because they know just like we do that these clowns have been giving us the runaround for over a year 🤷🏻‍♂️ and cant provide any reasonable explanations as to why, other than lie about it and blame others.
 
At the risk of going the early crow and BigAnt dropping ProTeam at 11:56pm tonight, 4 weeks have passed since submission.
From what I’ve read, Sony and Nintendo are the only ones who take this long and that’s not an average. Just the longest timeframe it takes.
We also all know that Nintendo aren’t involved here.
If the submission failed, that’s 100% something BigAnt should communicate because the new submission could potentially take another month.
So it’s A) Failed and had to be resubmitted with zero communication (shock) or B) They’re still working on it and have yet again lied to us (shock)

Buuuuttt haters of the haters will defend BigAnt till death do them part 😏
 
Or maybe, just like the ones at Big Ant themselves who shun their customer base, they just don't have a leg to stand on because they know just like we do that these clowns have been giving us the runaround for over a year 🤷🏻‍♂️ and cant provide any reasonable explanations as to why, other than lie about it and blame others.
What I don’t get is if these complainers hate big ant and the game so much then why are they here everyday posting about it.

I enjoy the game and I’m keen to try out pro team but it doesn’t occupy my thinking everyday like it seems to for those who don’t even like the game.
 
At the risk of going the early crow and BigAnt dropping ProTeam at 11:56pm tonight, 4 weeks have passed since submission.
From what I’ve read, Sony and Nintendo are the only ones who take this long and that’s not an average. Just the longest timeframe it takes.
We also all know that Nintendo aren’t involved here.
If the submission failed, that’s 100% something BigAnt should communicate because the new submission could potentially take another month.
So it’s A) Failed and had to be resubmitted with zero communication (shock) or B) They’re still working on it and have yet again lied to us (shock)

Buuuuttt haters of the haters will defend BigAnt till death do them part 😏
The other (more realistic) possibility is that it’s a big game mode, with a lot of moving parts and big ant are a small studio with limited resources so it’s probably been submitted multiple times.

Maybe they should announce every time it’s been turned back but can you imagine what you guys would do to them if they if they gave you any fuel for your fire.
 
What I don’t get is if these complainers hate big ant and the game so much then why are they here everyday posting about it.

I enjoy the game and I’m keen to try out pro team but it doesn’t occupy my thinking everyday like it seems to for those who don’t even like the game.

I think there’s a very stark difference between ‘hating the game’ and actually wanting what was advertised, and paid for. People are within their rights to complain about 15-month delays for seemingly false reasons. Again, if Big Ant had better and clearer communication, 95% of the ensuing drama could’ve been avoided.
 
The other (more realistic) possibility is that it’s a big game mode, with a lot of moving parts and big ant are a small studio with limited resources so it’s probably been submitted multiple times.

Maybe they should announce every time it’s been turned back but can you imagine what you guys would do to them if they if they gave you any fuel for your fire.
The fire stems from the lack of communication in the first place. If you can’t see that, then I can’t help you

Also again, they set a time frame. Be professional and be prepared.
Imagine you had some massive project in the works and your boss gave you a 2 week timeframe. Reckon he’d be okay with the old “ahh it’s okay boss, I got this. Just need another month to make it perfect. Don’t stress”
 
The other (more realistic) possibility is that it’s a big game mode, with a lot of moving parts and big ant are a small studio with limited resources so it’s probably been submitted multiple times.

Maybe they should announce every time it’s been turned back but can you imagine what you guys would do to them if they if they gave you any fuel for your fire.

Definitely not more realistic. Its a game mode thats been in the works for probably 2 years now, assuming development on this game began in 2022. Go read their forum mate, created solely to navigate their agenda as they see fit. Plenty of people on there seem to ask for Pro Team info without any rude comments and they’re still ignored. Whether JNT or anyone else isnt at liberty to reply, maybe do something better about retaining interest in your product.
 
The fire stems from the lack of communication in the first place.
This, I absolutely get.

The ‘they lied to us’ posts, I don’t…. Because they’re all speculative, and I reckon you’re correct… those comments just stem from the anger from the communication point above, rather than actual solid proof.
 
Go read their forum mate, created solely to navigate their agenda as they see fit. Plenty of people on there seem to ask for Pro Team info without any rude comments and they’re still ignored.
Plenty have asked questions there and been answered.
It’s just what you said, JNT isn’t responding to ALL the messages, just whatever he’s allowed to… and no one knows who’s directive that is.
 
Plenty have asked questions there and been answered.
It’s just what you said, JNT isn’t responding to ALL the messages, just whatever he’s allowed to… and no one knows who’s directive that is.

Answered in regards to Pro Team? Like what? Other than why a number was blurred in a video, I havent seen any new details from them. No what I said is plenty of people have asked for information and had their answers completely ignored, regardless of what mode the question is centred around. Yeah and why would that be? More bad communication 🤣
 

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You only have to look at how much they’ve tried to do in a short period of time over 4 games and see the end result in some of them that isn’t up to scratch.

Cricket 24 has probably been their worst release for cricket, I don’t care what metric they try and throw out it hasn’t been great. Ross just blocks any negative feedback and yeah I will admit there is a select fan base on the cricket side from a certain country that just have ridiculous demands and needs but majority of the feedback about the game itself is poor.

I can’t see how Pro Team will be viable for them. I know there’s a select group here that enjoy the game and think it’s in good shape but majority of people that have played or seen footage agree it’s not in a good state that justifies the $100 price tag.

Who that’s new to the game is forking out $100? Where I am in regional Vic you can’t not find this game at any EB or JBHI fi and if I was even considering it there’s no way I’m paying $100 for the digital version for a game that was released in 2023.

Grand Theft Auto, NBA, Football FC, Warzone are online games that still have hundreds of thousands of people if not millions considering they are global playing them. Realistically with AFL what would be the number you would think would be online playing pro team? Would it literally be in the hundreds and not even crack a thousand players?
 
Jeez... Just looking at the Big Ant forum and even they are getting pretty upset at Big Ant and accusing them of lying about things and not communicating with the community.

How long do you give it before Rossco announces the closure of the Big Ant forums and just pretends everything is ok and that there is no need for contact with the community? Seems like his type of M-O these days.
 
Answered in regards to Pro Team? Like what? Other than why a number was blurred in a video, I havent seen any new details from them. No what I said is plenty of people have asked for information and had their answers completely ignored, regardless of what mode the question is centred around. Yeah and why would that be? More bad communication 🤣
It's the arrogance for me. Polite requests for updates are ignored. Rude requests for updates are replied to with snark.

Someone on their twitter posted doubting the existence of the mode. Their reply? Not "It's coming. Sorry. Thank you for waiting." Just a passive aggressive quote tweet of their 3 minute video with last year's footage from 2 weeks ago that they so begrudgingly gave us.

Like, how dare anyone have the audacity to question where a game mode is that was announced 14 months ago, in testing phase 12 months ago, given a set release date 3 months ago, and was only announced to be delayed 2 hours before it was due to release after people had been asking all day if it was still coming tomorrow. The absolute entitlement of us vultures, I tell ya.

I'm still playing the game. I finally like how it plays now and I'm a customisation nerd. But bugger me they need to book PR training course.
 
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Do we actually know what role that JNT person is in? I suspect 'community manager' is just one hat, because they don't seem particularly well versed in the very basics of community outreach.

The snark is to be expected given the leadership and the fact that they slunk away from these forums once the echo chamber started cracking. The hubris comes from the top.
 
Was that the run-the-whole-ground video?
I think that was with AI run speed set to 40. Not sure about the user run speed value.

I'm playing with 45 for both AI and user, and it's not caused any issues.
I put both at the same speed testing around 10-25 speed for both, and the CPU opposition stop pressuring the user. This was with "CPU tactical awareness" at 99. I don't think sliders have been tested at all by the developers.
 
Do we actually know what role that JNT person is in? I suspect 'community manager' is just one hat, because they don't seem particularly well versed in the very basics of community outreach.

The snark is to be expected given the leadership and the fact that they slunk away from these forums once the echo chamber started cracking. The hubris comes from the top.

Wild guess here but I’d say there’s no functioning Marketing/Communications department there because if there is, WOW 🥲 and admittedly JNT probably cops more than necessary but this is why you get someone who makes the decisions to then make the proper roll-outs or just state CLEARLY what can/cant be discussed. Might have helped reduce the circus act we’ve endured for 15 months.
 

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