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Really looking forward to new naming conventions, again...
I too think that but the invite is addressed div 2 and 3 clubs
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I know I come from a different point of thinking, but surely clubs should be thriving to move up divisions, rather than whinging about it when the opportunity presents itself. Don't coaches and players want to play at the highest level that they can? Don't board members and sponsors want to see their club in the best league they can be in? To me it seems too many clubs want to sit back and pat themselves on the back for winning finals in inferior divisions. Since I've moved to Canberra Yass have played finals every year, so don't cry poor that they aren't good enough to move up a division. Challenge yourself and see if you can prove the critics wrong and make finals in the next division up.Hello Mate
Yes if it's true what we are hearing that Yass will be up a division than that is a shit decision. Players not playing for Yass in 2015 are as follows. Wazza,Shaneo, JD,Dougy,Brooksy,Simon,Nick,Tommy,Jak,Jimmy,Lennon,Scotty,Brock. Add to that we need a coach and all looks grim for a division upgrade
It was hoped that we would get a few players back from the Binalong rugby league team because there comp was shut down.However I heard yesterday that they have a new comp out west I think it's the Jim beam cup comp.
I respect the Jets for this. At least they have ambition and want to accept the challenge and push into the top division.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...afl-canberra-first-grade-20141108-11j3xa.html
Reads like they aren't still fully committed, but Pavese being there will mean they move no matter what...
Well there you go, If you seriously think that yass sit back and pat themselves on the back for losing Grand finals in a inferior division then you are delusional . It,s a challenge every year to get a bloody side on the paddock we get no help from the league yet we pay the same fees as other clubs .We have no money and relay on sponsors to buy jumpers balls and strapping gear (not that we are the only club that do this ) .Yass train once a week and on the best nights would be lucky to get 14 or 15 to training. We have tried for years to get it to too nights a week but it has never worked !! our players are more social than competitive believe me I would like nothing more than to be able to go up a grade and attract players out to Yass to be competitive but that will never happen. As you say challenge yourself Yass is looking for a coach as we speak are you interested in the challenge so blokes like me can stop whinging and start supporting ????
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I believe that Coota and Goulburn could handle moving up a division but not Yass or Cooma. If (as I am led to believe) Coota and Goulburn paid players they should not be allowed to play in Div 3. Batemans Bay played Goulburn and Coota this year with a number of senior players and could not beat them so I have no doubt they could compete. Yass and Cooma do not have the populations to compete in the higher Div. I also believe the Seahawks could not compete in a higher Div. Blokes do not want to play footy and have no realistic chance of any success.
Hello Bubbles have you heard any rumours in regards to Woden players going to the Bay next year.And for the record Webby earnt over 20 k for coaching and playing for Coota last year Fact not Fiction. Im also hearing that Coota are keen on going up a division they are in talks at the moment with another player coach from another league for next year. And also for the record if they have money and can afford to pay players I agree they should go up. And I do wish them all the best
... as they are paying my wage next year.
Goulburn in my time have never paid players. Our coach gets $1000 for the season to cover costs. Yass have beaten us in the last two finals series, can't be doing too bad.
Agree it changes every year with players etc. But would be an exciting challenge moving up. (My opinion not that of the club). Have it on good authority that Coota get some spending money, why else would someone travel 2 hours to train and play? Good on them for getting their club in that position though.
And here I was thinking he was a part of the new UC BELCO sides
Hey Nov what made you think you,s were that good
How are your numbers shaping up now any news ?
Trying to get players into the joint, not scare them off. Needs to start logging in as Co-Pilot again.
That wasn't meant to sound arrogant haha, rusty signed on as coach tonight at our meeting, so that's good news. We still have some returning players but won't be certain till our first training run in a few weeks. We picked our last team from 23 players so we will be doing our best to get some players back on board and some new players. Our president has done a great job with our afl 9's and we have 6 teams competing so hopefully get some players out of that. It's refreshing to have a new board which is focussing on the future and trying to get out juniors and auskick back up to where it should be, also working hard to secure funds to improve our home ground (Goodhew) and raise our profile. When does Yass kick off? Any interest in the coaching gig?Hey Nov what made you think you,s were that good
Hey Nov that's great news re Heath last time I spoke to him he was done and dusted so it,s great he has signed again .No news on a coach yet .Don't know when there planning to start I would say around mid to late feb. Good luck with it all mate im happy to hear it looks good for you.
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No I haven't heard about Woden players coming but we would welcome any players especially if they don't have a team. Each week was a struggle to field a full ressies side. I think 16 a side would be a good idea next season for Div 3 (or 4 if it is called that).
I apologise if I was wrong about Goulburn paying but I still think they could compete. The day we played this year we had 13 blokes who had played seniors during the year and still couldn't beat you so you are a very good side. Some of the senior guys said it was the hardest game they had played all year.
Not convinced the 16 a side concept will ever gain much traction outside of the interstate clubs. We had 10 to 15 blokes a week missing out on a game most weeks last year... Think the way it is now, where teams can agree to play 16 a side if completely necessary is the way it should stay...
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Which club is that? Whenever we requested 16 it was as if the world was about to cave in. Molonglo even played 17 v 16 for the first qtr
Ainslie. I think we had 21 vs Goulburn in the final round when a few blokes were rested ahead of our final, but that was the only time all year when we didn't fill a side...
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How's that got anything to do with social football? I must have missed something because I didn't realise that Div 1 & 2 were professional footballers.
I play other sports outside of football like soccer/basketball/netball socially, but that doesn't mean I don't want to be playing in the best competition that I can.
Yes I've signed with Gungahlin, doesn't change anything that I've said. I wouldn't sign for a club that I didn't respect, and second to that I wouldn't sign up to coach a club that didn't have ambition. That's just my point of view and I don't expect you all to agree with it. As southcab mentioned its hard to recruit coaches and players at the moment, I can guarantee you that it would be easier to recruit if you were in a higher division. I'm not suggesting that you should go up a division just for that reason, I'm just stating my thoughts and trying to bring balance to an argument that going up divisions isn't the end of the world as most on here believe it to be.
Wish you all the best with your Gungahlin move mate.
I think you are still missing the point.
People do play football for fun, I know it might be hard to believe, but it does happen.
Blokes playing 3rd and 4th grade want to win flags and the like, but they also want to get pissed on a regular basis and not take themselves too seriously.
The difference in attitude between the NEAFL/Div 1 boys and the Div2/3 boys at Ainslie is quite large. I strongly doubt that many of our lower graders would have much interest in training 3 nights a week, weekend recovery sessions and the like. Not everyone has a burning ambition to play at that level, nor the ability to commit a large amount of time to do so.
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Are you suggesting that I don't play football for fun? What other reason is there to play football? Money? I find it very difficult to imagine there is anyone playing AFL Canberra football and making a living out of it.
In my honest opinion the "commitment" required to play Div 1 is completely overrated. NEAFL is a different story, but we aren't talking NEAFL at the moment. You may be right about the attitudes of some past Div 1 players who were trying to get into a NEAFL team and hence had to train to that level etc, but things are changing. Div 1 sides won't be associated with NEAFL teams and therefore won't be training 3 nights a week and having recovery sessions etc (well I can't imagine they will be). If there is someone from Tuggeranong on here I'd like to ask them how many recovery sessions they attended and how many times a week they had to train to play in their Div 1 side.
Let me let you in on a little secret, players who play division 1 football also want to get pissed on a regular basis and not take themselves too seriously. That's not mutually exclusive to playing in a higher grade.
That was due to the umpire telling us the wrong rule, 16 aside is stupid, that's two extra blokes that miss out in our reserves every game which is hard enough as it is.
Juggernauts have gone to Coota and other country teams away and have played 16 vs 22 when we have been short, we have never requested to a 16 a side team, it is a stupid rule
Mate I get that you want to take Gunners there and all the power to you, but surly the AFL doesn't need to be in there telling every club that they have to drop everything, risk themselves financially, socially, as well as even being able to field a team, and go up a grade or (or 2 with div 1 having NEAFL Players) with 6 months notice to a higher grade of football. Not everyone that plays footy wants to play first grade, simple as that. Despite what AFL Canberra wants us to believe there are associated costs and commitments to going up a level of footy, hell, even your new club of gunners came out this week in the paper and said they still arnt sure they can meet going up a grade financially, and they are a club in a pretty well established region in town when you compare them to Googong and Molonglo which are hardly even being built yet. That's the facts of life, sport and business, the afl can say its not true but the big 4 clubs get in excess of $300k a year at least and still 'struggle'.
In terms of adding balance to the discussion, I think the AFL should listen to what all the clubs want, not just what the big 4 or 5 want and what the league wants. PEople don't like playing a sport to be told by the governing body how and where they want to play, believe it or not, there are a tonne of other options in Canberra and the region, and many of the Guys and Girls playing will just pick a new sport. Whether you want to add balance or not, it seems pretty clear from these threads that teams and players don't want to go up, seems to be the trend from the outcomes of your meetings and what has been published in the paper. AFL comes up with a different idea every year, after the season ends saying this is what we are doing next year, last year it was a split div 1 into 2 grades. Maybe they should actually make a long term plan of what they want a business plan of how to get to it, not just say this is what we are doing, you all have to risk it to do it too.
I don't even get why they want to split the womens teams out to a different day and segregate the clubs, how does that affect,ANU and Molonglo, and ADFA to an extent? who have built clubs around the guys and the girls as one big club. THe argument that the VWFL is played on a Sunday and is the best in Australia is redundant, the mens and womens clubs down there are completely separate, its a different standard and a completely differnet comp, that's comparing apples and oranges.
It really feels like that AFL is loosing touch with the people that in the end pay their fees, what will it take, all the clubs that want to play that div 2 / 3 level creating a rebel league and not having to deal with this.
